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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
August 22 2014 20:10 GMT
#801
On August 23 2014 05:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
[image loading]
I wish Plzleaveduck actually won.


Wait they're moving through the ro64 while multiple groups have yet to be played? That's kind of weird. Especially because Bunny vs Hyun will be 100x the match this will be
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 22 2014 20:11 GMT
#802
On August 23 2014 05:10 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 05:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
[image loading]
I wish Plzleaveduck actually won.


Wait they're moving through the ro64 while multiple groups have yet to be played? That's kind of weird. Especially because Bunny vs Hyun will be 100x the match this will be

I doubt they'll start ro32 already
Neosteel Enthusiast
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 22 2014 20:11 GMT
#803
On August 23 2014 05:10 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 05:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
[image loading]
I wish Plzleaveduck actually won.


Wait they're moving through the ro64 while multiple groups have yet to be played? That's kind of weird. Especially because Bunny vs Hyun will be 100x the match this will be

I think Bunny vs HyuN will be played tomorrow, not sure.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 22 2014 20:12 GMT
#804
On August 23 2014 05:10 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 05:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
[image loading]
I wish Plzleaveduck actually won.


Wait they're moving through the ro64 while multiple groups have yet to be played? That's kind of weird. Especially because Bunny vs Hyun will be 100x the match this will be

Happened last time as well. But they will not play Bunny vs Hyun offstream. That would be madness.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 22 2014 20:12 GMT
#805
Damn it I feel so bad about being gold after talking here that I need to go ladder.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 22 2014 20:12 GMT
#806
On August 23 2014 05:12 Xoronius wrote:
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On August 23 2014 05:10 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On August 23 2014 05:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
[image loading]
I wish Plzleaveduck actually won.


Wait they're moving through the ro64 while multiple groups have yet to be played? That's kind of weird. Especially because Bunny vs Hyun will be 100x the match this will be

Happened last time as well. But they will not play Bunny vs Hyun offstream. That would be madness.


No, that would be MLG.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
August 22 2014 20:13 GMT
#807
On August 23 2014 05:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Damn it I feel so bad about being gold after talking here that I need to go ladder.

7 Roach rush every game.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 22 2014 20:13 GMT
#808
Livibee made it to RO64, damn
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
August 22 2014 20:13 GMT
#809
On August 23 2014 05:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
[image loading]

I wish Plzleaveduck actually won.



Would still be cool to see Fenner vs Plzleaveduck fight it out. Can some caster make a show match out of this? The almost conquerors of Snute / Hyun battling it out!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 20:14:11
August 22 2014 20:13 GMT
#810
On August 23 2014 05:13 PhoenixVoid wrote:
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On August 23 2014 05:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Damn it I feel so bad about being gold after talking here that I need to go ladder.

7 Roach rush every game.


Don't know build (or any build for that matter), so I'm just gonna play macro and work on injects
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 22 2014 20:14 GMT
#811
That's a lot of spines :o
Neosteel Enthusiast
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
August 22 2014 20:15 GMT
#812
The difference between Hendralisk's games and the ones Suppy and Qxc did is that Henry would totally try this against a pro.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 22 2014 20:16 GMT
#813
Hendralisk building WoL level of infestors
Neosteel Enthusiast
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
August 22 2014 20:16 GMT
#814
Infestor drops hoboy.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 22 2014 20:16 GMT
#815
Drop infestors. Madness.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 20:17:36
August 22 2014 20:17 GMT
#816


My favourite Destiny moment
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Roachu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden692 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 20:19:28
August 22 2014 20:17 GMT
#817
On August 23 2014 05:05 SatedSC2 wrote:
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On August 23 2014 05:02 Roachu wrote:
On August 23 2014 04:58 SatedSC2 wrote:
On August 23 2014 04:56 Roachu wrote:
On August 23 2014 04:52 SatedSC2 wrote:
On August 23 2014 04:50 Roachu wrote:
On August 23 2014 04:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 23 2014 04:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 23 2014 04:44 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 23 2014 04:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
[quote]

shit sucks man. I take it way too seriously for how terrible I am too

I always work on my standard play too, which makes me want to do better.


Yup, I never all in or cheese. Which I should probably start doing since it's basically free wins in gold

I do it when I feel frustrated or I see like a protoss on a map I'm not confident on. At least that's what I did a few months ago. Some satisfying 6 and 10 pools lemme tell you.

I haven't played seriously for over a year but I was a gold leaguer when I stopped and I don't think you should ever cheese when you're below diamond. I used to go 9 pool into two base muta in ZvP because it was hella fun but that did nothing for my macro practice, which was the bane of every other match up.

Saying that people shouldn't cheese at a low-level is like saying a new piano player should skip Twinkle Twinkle Little Star and skip straight to Chopin or whatever...

Reverse that sentence and I might agree...

Cheese is easier to learn, more obvious benchmarks, and produced shorter games. Combined, these factors make it easier for low-level players to analyse their mistakes and develop their early game mechanics. They can then move onto two-base all-ins and then move onto taking a third base. You've gotta learn to walk before you can run. Most Gold players can't even 4 Gate properly, yet alone macro properly on 3 bases.

Macro is the base of everything in Starcraft. If you can macro properly without getting distracted you can reach diamond with little to no strategy at all, just build units and expand without getting supply capped. A successful cheese is based on the current meta which is based on high level play. Saying a cheese is like riding a bike with training wheels is entirely missing the point. You say you gotta learn to walk before you can run, but walking in this case is macro. Beating Usain Bolt in a 100 m run is micro.

Macro is simply the act of continuously spending your money. There is a level of macro required to properly hit a 4 Gate timing. There is a level of macro required to properly hit an Immortal/Sentry all-in. Do you think that just anyone can hit the same timing that PartinG can with his Soul Train push? That's not how it works. Just because a build is executed off one or two bases doesn't mean that there isn't any macro involved. All-ins teach macro better than heading to the late-game because you're testing your macro ability vs. very rigid benchmarks. If you don't understand this, just do me a favour and never become a teacher.

You are very nearly on the right track but still epically derailed at the same time. KESPA player builds have nothing to do with what I'm saying. My point is trying a Parting build is useless unless you know how to behave being presented with any unsuspected consequence. What is the point of the Soul Train? To utterly murder your opponent with sentry/immortal. What if your push doesn't utterly murder him? What then? The build has NOTHING to say about that. Having stable mechanics and macro on the other hand lets you naturally gravitate towards a successful followup. Also please do me a favour and stop being so pathetically hostile.
Don't be asshats
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
August 22 2014 20:17 GMT
#818
Hello, my name is Hendralisk, and this is Jackass!
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
August 22 2014 20:17 GMT
#819
What a comeback.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
August 22 2014 20:18 GMT
#820
On August 23 2014 05:17 Squat wrote:
Hello, my name is Hendralisk, and this is Jackass!


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