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Noonius

Estonia17413 Posts

August 22 2014 20:19 GMT

#821

siv is shivving hendralisk

KingofdaHipHop

United States25602 Posts

August 22 2014 20:19 GMT

#822

I think this is the closest weird game we've seen so far.

Paljas

Germany6926 Posts

August 22 2014 20:19 GMT

#823

still no roach speed. lol

Circumstance

United States11403 Posts

August 22 2014 20:20 GMT

#824

Now the real question: Which of these Zergs is the better Terran?

PhoenixVoid

Canada32740 Posts

August 22 2014 20:21 GMT

#825

This may not be the highest level of play for a tournament but damn is it entertaining.

Noonius

Estonia17413 Posts

August 22 2014 20:21 GMT

#826

ToD is the orcale that speaks the truth

PhoenixVoid

Canada32740 Posts

August 22 2014 20:23 GMT

#827

This reminds me of that game Destiny played a long time ago on the Korean server where he made a comeback through Infestor drops.

Paljas

Germany6926 Posts

August 22 2014 20:23 GMT

#828

wow, not upgraded ultras are worthless

KingofdaHipHop

United States25602 Posts

August 22 2014 20:24 GMT

#829

That was entertaining.

FueledUpAndReadyToGo

Netherlands30548 Posts

August 22 2014 20:24 GMT

#830

On August 23 2014 05:17 Roachu wrote:

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On August 23 2014 04:44 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
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I always work on my standard play too, which makes me want to do better.

Yup, I never all in or cheese. Which I should probably start doing since it's basically free wins in gold

I do it when I feel frustrated or I see like a protoss on a map I'm not confident on. At least that's what I did a few months ago. Some satisfying 6 and 10 pools lemme tell you.

I haven't played seriously for over a year but I was a gold leaguer when I stopped and I don't think you should ever cheese when you're below diamond. I used to go 9 pool into two base muta in ZvP because it was hella fun but that did nothing for my macro practice, which was the bane of every other match up.

Saying that people shouldn't cheese at a low-level is like saying a new piano player should skip Twinkle Twinkle Little Star and skip straight to Chopin or whatever...

Reverse that sentence and I might agree...

Cheese is easier to learn, more obvious benchmarks, and produced shorter games. Combined, these factors make it easier for low-level players to analyse their mistakes and develop their early game mechanics. They can then move onto two-base all-ins and then move onto taking a third base. You've gotta learn to walk before you can run. Most Gold players can't even 4 Gate properly, yet alone macro properly on 3 bases.

Macro is the base of everything in Starcraft. If you can macro properly without getting distracted you can reach diamond with little to no strategy at all, just build units and expand without getting supply capped. A successful cheese is based on the current meta which is based on high level play. Saying a cheese is like riding a bike with training wheels is entirely missing the point. You say you gotta learn to walk before you can run, but walking in this case is macro. Beating Usain Bolt in a 100 m run is micro.

Macro is simply the act of continuously spending your money. There is a level of macro required to properly hit a 4 Gate timing. There is a level of macro required to properly hit an Immortal/Sentry all-in. Do you think that just anyone can hit the same timing that PartinG can with his Soul Train push? That's not how it works. Just because a build is executed off one or two bases doesn't mean that there isn't any macro involved. All-ins teach macro better than heading to the late-game because you're testing your macro ability vs. very rigid benchmarks. If you don't understand this, just do me a favour and never become a teacher.

You are very nearly on the right track but still epically derailed at the same time. KESPA player builds have nothing to do with what I'm saying. My point is trying a Parting build is useless unless you know how to behave being presented with any unsuspected consequence. What is the point of the Soul Train? To utterly murder your opponent with sentry/immortal. What if your push doesn't utterly murder him? What then? The build has NOTHING to say about that. Having a stable mechanics and macro on the other hand lets you naturally gravitate towards a successful followup. Also please do me a favour and stop being so pathetically hostile.

If you execute a parting build correctly, you will utterly murder them unless they are GM+. If you don't, then you didn't execute it correctly (as you can compare timings) so you leave the game and try again to get the build done faster or better, training mechanics and macro.