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joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1024 Posts
August 22 2014 17:01 GMT
#361
On August 23 2014 02:00 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 01:58 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:57 The_Templar wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:55 Shellshock wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:52 The_Templar wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:50 Larkin wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:47 Shellshock wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:47 Larkin wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:37 Larkin wrote:
[quote]

Shit's different in gold league. Proxy 3rax reaper into siege tank/turret turtle into battlecruiser is a legit build.


Hey now, gold isn't that bad. Most people in gold at least try to copy pro strats at least, even if we do it very poorly


In 1v1, perhaps. I only really play 2v2. And mass carrier is actually in the meta.

The rule I usually use for 2v2 is most people in that league are usually 1-2 leagues lower in 1v1 :D


Actually very untrue. I'm diamond level in 2v2 and people we play in plat are often masters in 1v1. Shit is brutal.

Yeah I tried playing with my older brother in bronze 2v2 (he's low/mid silver or so in 1v1 but doesn't play much). We kept running into plat/diamond players. >.>

I face a lot of gold and silver 1v1 players that are plat or diamond 2v2. There are some strategies that are really easy to execute in team games that can push you up the ladder. Back when I played a lot more my friend and I just went ling hellion every game and it was a pretty straightforward win against most people

Well, we both:
-Play random
-Expand at reasonable times (generally one of us FE's and the other plays a safe build)
-Tech normally
-Make reasonable unit compositions.
This doesn't work very well for some reason, 2v2 players generally take everything to the extreme (mass doomdrop, a billion expansions before gateway, mass BC etc)

In my experience expand builds are suicide in anything other than 1v1. You really need those early units.

depends way to much on maps, races etc.


I think so too, with hots and the new map pool making expos easier to defend, as long as you're playing with a group of decent friends and have good teamwork and army positioning, you can make expo builds work.

Of course if EVERY player on your team plays super greedy.. thats a different story.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
August 22 2014 17:03 GMT
#362
On August 23 2014 01:57 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 01:55 Shellshock wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:52 The_Templar wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:50 Larkin wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:47 Shellshock wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:47 Larkin wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:37 Larkin wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:35 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:34 brickrd wrote:
[quote]
i always switch the queens after the initial reaper poke and i rarely lose any unless i derp hard

Yeah I'm gold so I'm always derping hard.


Shit's different in gold league. Proxy 3rax reaper into siege tank/turret turtle into battlecruiser is a legit build.


Hey now, gold isn't that bad. Most people in gold at least try to copy pro strats at least, even if we do it very poorly


In 1v1, perhaps. I only really play 2v2. And mass carrier is actually in the meta.

The rule I usually use for 2v2 is most people in that league are usually 1-2 leagues lower in 1v1 :D


Actually very untrue. I'm diamond level in 2v2 and people we play in plat are often masters in 1v1. Shit is brutal.

Yeah I tried playing with my older brother in bronze 2v2 (he's low/mid silver or so in 1v1 but doesn't play much). We kept running into plat/diamond players. >.>

I face a lot of gold and silver 1v1 players that are plat or diamond 2v2. There are some strategies that are really easy to execute in team games that can push you up the ladder. Back when I played a lot more my friend and I just went ling hellion every game and it was a pretty straightforward win against most people

Well, we both:
-Play random
-Expand at reasonable times (generally one of us FE's and the other plays a safe build)
-Tech normally
-Make reasonable unit compositions.
This doesn't work very well for some reason, 2v2 players generally take everything to the extreme (mass doomdrop, a billion expansions before gateway, mass BC etc)


You have to synergise well. It's map dependent, obviously. On crooked maw, it's just 1 base plays. Isle of Slaughter/Old Country you can go CC/nexus first, on Old Country you can get away with 3 hatch before pool.

Early rushes are very very strong particularly when you are separated from your teammate - walloffs are a must (which sucks when one player is zerg). Stuff like double 10pool/speedling all ins etc when one player gets focused down on by the other really sucks.

Some race compositions are really favoured. P/Z is very weak to early rushes but has great late game. T/T can turtle and contain to equal effect - things like mass widow mine + mass drops are v good.

It's a very diverse and interesting playlist and I wish it got more attention ;;
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1024 Posts
August 22 2014 17:04 GMT
#363
50 vs 100 supply =(

gogo cheeto!
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
August 22 2014 17:04 GMT
#364
Cheeto gifted that MSC!
Wat
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 17:05:02
August 22 2014 17:04 GMT
#365
double the supply before the engagement even begins...
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 22 2014 17:05 GMT
#366
not to hate, but a 9 minute 6 gate sounds like a god awful build
TL+ Member
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
August 22 2014 17:05 GMT
#367
Did we ever find out the league of my boy cheeto?
Wat
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 22 2014 17:06 GMT
#368
Rip next bonjwa cheetos
Glorious SEA doto
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
August 22 2014 17:06 GMT
#369
Is Cheeto an amateur? This is the downside to open tournaments.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 22 2014 17:06 GMT
#370
On August 23 2014 02:05 Tenks wrote:
Did we ever find out the league of my boy cheeto?


considering he doesn't know a build for 7gate, so he can't be too high.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
August 22 2014 17:06 GMT
#371
Good hold by HyuN. It was really tense.
hundred thousand krouner
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
August 22 2014 17:06 GMT
#372
On August 23 2014 02:06 Exarl25 wrote:
Is Cheeto an amateur? This is the downside to open tournaments.


Do you mean he doesn't get paid to play SC2? I'd say it is pretty safe to say that.
Wat
Loccstana
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States833 Posts
August 22 2014 17:06 GMT
#373
Cheeto gets utterly destroyed by the Hyunator
[url]http://i.imgur.com/lw2yN.jpg[/url]
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 22 2014 17:07 GMT
#374
On August 23 2014 02:03 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 01:57 The_Templar wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:55 Shellshock wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:52 The_Templar wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:50 Larkin wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:47 Shellshock wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:47 Larkin wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:37 Larkin wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:35 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
[quote]
Yeah I'm gold so I'm always derping hard.


Shit's different in gold league. Proxy 3rax reaper into siege tank/turret turtle into battlecruiser is a legit build.


Hey now, gold isn't that bad. Most people in gold at least try to copy pro strats at least, even if we do it very poorly


In 1v1, perhaps. I only really play 2v2. And mass carrier is actually in the meta.

The rule I usually use for 2v2 is most people in that league are usually 1-2 leagues lower in 1v1 :D


Actually very untrue. I'm diamond level in 2v2 and people we play in plat are often masters in 1v1. Shit is brutal.

Yeah I tried playing with my older brother in bronze 2v2 (he's low/mid silver or so in 1v1 but doesn't play much). We kept running into plat/diamond players. >.>

I face a lot of gold and silver 1v1 players that are plat or diamond 2v2. There are some strategies that are really easy to execute in team games that can push you up the ladder. Back when I played a lot more my friend and I just went ling hellion every game and it was a pretty straightforward win against most people

Well, we both:
-Play random
-Expand at reasonable times (generally one of us FE's and the other plays a safe build)
-Tech normally
-Make reasonable unit compositions.
This doesn't work very well for some reason, 2v2 players generally take everything to the extreme (mass doomdrop, a billion expansions before gateway, mass BC etc)


You have to synergise well. It's map dependent, obviously. On crooked maw, it's just 1 base plays. Isle of Slaughter/Old Country you can go CC/nexus first, on Old Country you can get away with 3 hatch before pool.

Early rushes are very very strong particularly when you are separated from your teammate - walloffs are a must (which sucks when one player is zerg). Stuff like double 10pool/speedling all ins etc when one player gets focused down on by the other really sucks.

Some race compositions are really favoured. P/Z is very weak to early rushes but has great late game. T/T can turtle and contain to equal effect - things like mass widow mine + mass drops are v good.

It's a very diverse and interesting playlist and I wish it got more attention ;;

We know about which maps support which playstyles. My brother is not particularly great at pressuring/taking expansions so we have all of the mega-super-huge-way-too-large-stupidly-gargantuan-beyond-belief maps vetoed. (It's getting harder to do that though)
On crooked maw we take the in-base expansion and block the front. We usually die to cheeses anyway (unless the opponents are awful) so...)
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 22 2014 17:07 GMT
#375
On August 23 2014 02:05 Tenks wrote:
Did we ever find out the league of my boy cheeto?

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/336042/1/Cheeto/
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
August 22 2014 17:07 GMT
#376
On August 23 2014 02:06 Exarl25 wrote:
Is Cheeto an amateur? This is the downside to open tournaments.

This is the upside to open tournaments. It's sports. Everyone should have a chance to compete, even if he loses horribly.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
August 22 2014 17:07 GMT
#377
HasuObs
MMR decay is bad, m'kay? | Personal Hero: TerranHwaiting
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 22 2014 17:07 GMT
#378
oh well, good effort by cheeto. was probably nervous too. gg
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 22 2014 17:07 GMT
#379
On August 23 2014 02:07 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 02:05 Tenks wrote:
Did we ever find out the league of my boy cheeto?

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/336042/1/Cheeto/

Diamond? Didn't know why I expected differently >.>
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
August 22 2014 17:08 GMT
#380
On August 23 2014 02:07 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 02:05 Tenks wrote:
Did we ever find out the league of my boy cheeto?

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/336042/1/Cheeto/


Ah hiding his builds by not placing in 1v1. Smart.
Wat
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