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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
August 18 2014 17:11 GMT
#101
On August 18 2014 20:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 10:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 18 2014 10:26 D-light wrote:
On August 18 2014 08:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 18 2014 08:51 HoMM wrote:
I'm a huge Scarlett fan, but it looks like Bunny really needs the support so my vote goes for him right now!


if welmu gets in over bunny it will be a goddamn tragedy.

I guess some people like the story of an university student fighting an illness and consistently doing well in the WCS for a good while.

Well, hopefully both will get in to the tournament eventually.


I did not know he had an illness... now I kind of feel bad.

It's related to his stomach. (Crohn's disease?) I can't even count how many events he has had to cancel his participation due it. Lately Homestory cup and several DH. Also he couldnt practice for 1 week just before 2013 season2 or 3 season finals.
related:


Also, if you use or like Aligulac you must vote Welmu , that way you support sponsors

To be honest, we got that spot on his shirt for free as a gesture from their manager who is a good friend of our organization.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28785 Posts
August 18 2014 17:13 GMT
#102
basically sen and jim might be slightly shafted because they get less community exposure in relation to skill because they are asian, but if a qualifier is accurate then they'll get the two other spots anyway? I mean this isn't pure invite, it's invite based on who people want to see the most + qualifier..
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 18 2014 18:03 GMT
#103
I'd rather have the polling done in such a way where people can vote for their top 4 foreigners and results aren't shown till the end.

On a side note I'm pretty tired of invites to tournaments.
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Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
August 18 2014 18:17 GMT
#104
On August 19 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:
I'd rather have the polling done in such a way where people can vote for their top 4 foreigners and results aren't shown till the end.

On a side note I'm pretty tired of invites to tournaments.

This.

I'm not tired of invitationals though ^_^
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 18 2014 19:18 GMT
#105
On August 19 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:
I'd rather have the polling done in such a way where people can vote for their top 4 foreigners and results aren't shown till the end.

On a side note I'm pretty tired of invites to tournaments.


if i was to organize a tournament, i would invite the players i think deserve it most.
i dont get all those "we need qualifiers for everything" sayers, there are so many tournaments out there that its quite obvious who is the best. a single qualifier can be pretty random at times.
some qualifiers are ok, but honestly, if youd invite the obvious top 8 which is:
Scarlett, Snute, MajOr, VortiX, Welmu, Bunny, Sen, Jim - everyone would be happy. why qualifiers?
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 18 2014 20:01 GMT
#106
On August 19 2014 04:18 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:
I'd rather have the polling done in such a way where people can vote for their top 4 foreigners and results aren't shown till the end.

On a side note I'm pretty tired of invites to tournaments.


if i was to organize a tournament, i would invite the players i think deserve it most.
i dont get all those "we need qualifiers for everything" sayers, there are so many tournaments out there that its quite obvious who is the best. a single qualifier can be pretty random at times.
some qualifiers are ok, but honestly, if youd invite the obvious top 8 which is:
Scarlett, Snute, MajOr, VortiX, Welmu, Bunny, Sen, Jim - everyone would be happy. why qualifiers?

I think Happy for example wouldn't be happy with this. But than again, I can't really imagine, that he is happy with the current situation either (Not being on a list, QXC and neeb are on).
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5609 Posts
August 18 2014 20:10 GMT
#107
I miss Naniwa and Stephano...
don't wall off against random
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 18 2014 20:34 GMT
#108
gogo VortiX! 33 votes away from ur deserved spot!
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 18 2014 21:38 GMT
#109
On August 19 2014 04:18 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 03:03 stuchiu wrote:
I'd rather have the polling done in such a way where people can vote for their top 4 foreigners and results aren't shown till the end.

On a side note I'm pretty tired of invites to tournaments.


if i was to organize a tournament, i would invite the players i think deserve it most.
i dont get all those "we need qualifiers for everything" sayers, there are so many tournaments out there that its quite obvious who is the best. a single qualifier can be pretty random at times.
some qualifiers are ok, but honestly, if youd invite the obvious top 8 which is:
Scarlett, Snute, MajOr, VortiX, Welmu, Bunny, Sen, Jim - everyone would be happy. why qualifiers?


Depends on what you're trying to do. If it's just a small thing then whatever. You don't need qualifiers for small online cups that are mostly for fun. But if you want to actually claim something in your tournament like "Our tournament will definitively crown the best player/best foreigner/best player in this region." then you need qualifiers because games best prove who is the best. You'd never get upsets or stories of players constantly fighting each other. One of the reasons invites were used early on was because it was easier to organize and because it was easier to tell the story. Well the second reason is no longer relevant as I don't think we are no longer dependent on a super star carrying viewership (One could say this over emphasis on star players contributed to the decline of the NA scene as well).

And who am I to say to Dayshi, Nerchio, Elfi, TLO, Serral, Mana, Grubby, Has, Kane, Harstem, ToD, Iaguz, Pig, Petreaus, MacSed, Toodming, Xigua, Ian. Sorry guys, you just don't got the results and the prestige to be invited and most people won't complain so no qualifiers. What you want at least the chance to prove it? Too bad. Get out.

Back before Dear won his double royal road everyone thought he was bad. Back before Zest all killed SKT and went on to win GSL, he was at worst terrible and at best mediocre. What once was doesn't necessarily mean it must always continue to be. This isn't like quake or WC3 where you have the same guys always at the top. In SC2, it's always changing. We're too competitive to cutthroat for almost any player to stay at the top for long periods of time.
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lotteryman
Profile Joined July 2014
17 Posts
August 18 2014 22:38 GMT
#110
On August 19 2014 01:06 Liquid`Drone wrote:
in any sport asking fans who the best players are yields you very accurate results.. this is because supporters by large actually follow the sport and pay close attention to who is best. And okay, let's compare the current poll to say, a combined aligulac and wcs points.. hell,we can include TLPD as well.


No. Asking fans will yield votes for their favourite players and/or countrymen. Better players have more fans? Depends, sometimes yes, sometimes no.
madals
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom624 Posts
August 19 2014 08:33 GMT
#111
Updated Prize pool to current total of $2256
Caster: @Madals91 http://www.youtube.com/Madals91 <--
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 19 2014 08:38 GMT
#112
Oh come on, Nerchio in 6th with only a small margin to top 4, where are all the Polish sc2 fans?
madals
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom624 Posts
August 19 2014 16:40 GMT
#113
Added a video about why you should consider donating to the IndieGoGo Campaign:

Caster: @Madals91 http://www.youtube.com/Madals91 <--
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7164 Posts
August 19 2014 17:15 GMT
#114
Wow, Welmu just randomly rose up to top 2. Cant say im mad tho :D
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
EnPo
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland411 Posts
August 19 2014 17:18 GMT
#115
On August 20 2014 02:15 Luolis wrote:
Wow, Welmu just randomly rose up to top 2. Cant say im mad tho :D

The power of Proto... Werrrlmu
"Enpo has good builds and is good at executing those" -Serral 2018
comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
August 19 2014 17:32 GMT
#116
sen plz
I put the fu in fun
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
August 19 2014 17:40 GMT
#117
Snute Scarlett Bunny MajOr
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1417 Posts
August 19 2014 17:41 GMT
#118
On August 18 2014 01:34 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 01:12 Faefae wrote:
Top 4 foreigners = Vortix, Snute, Bunny, SEn ?


I'd say Scarlett over Vortix, but then again I really haven't seen Vortix play lately.

i'd say scarlett is better than bunny on a consistent level, as are vortix, welmu, Sen and snute.

honestly all 6 of them are great players though, easily able to beat code A koreans on a semi consistent level, and i feel that just listing the top 4 would be a disservice to 2 other great players.

we're also up to 6 foreigners who chase the koreans now, and the tendency is growing rather than shrinking :D
KonanTenshi
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden210 Posts
August 19 2014 18:02 GMT
#119
imo change name of tourny since it's fan favourite over acctual skill.
Curious
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
August 19 2014 18:08 GMT
#120
Sen and Major not being top 4 is somewhat cringeworthy. This is a "most popular foreigners tournament". Hope the tournament goes well though.
maru lover forever
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