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On August 18 2014 08:51 HoMM wrote: I'm a huge Scarlett fan, but it looks like Bunny really needs the support so my vote goes for him right now!
if welmu gets in over bunny it will be a goddamn tragedy.
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On August 18 2014 08:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 08:51 HoMM wrote: I'm a huge Scarlett fan, but it looks like Bunny really needs the support so my vote goes for him right now! if welmu gets in over bunny it will be a goddamn tragedy. I guess some people like the story of an university student fighting an illness and consistently doing well in the WCS for a good while.
Well, hopefully both will get in to the tournament eventually.
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On August 18 2014 10:26 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 08:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 18 2014 08:51 HoMM wrote: I'm a huge Scarlett fan, but it looks like Bunny really needs the support so my vote goes for him right now! if welmu gets in over bunny it will be a goddamn tragedy. I guess some people like the story of an university student fighting an illness and consistently doing well in the WCS for a good while. Well, hopefully both will get in to the tournament eventually.
I did not know he had an illness... now I kind of feel bad.
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Pssssssssssssssssh. Come on now. Last time you were relevant, Warhounds were still a thing.
Vote4Welmu
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"Four players from community vote + 2 players from open brackets" =/= "The 6 best foreign players" lol
I'm looking forward to a foreigner tournament, but let's not call it the best six if only two of them are based on qualifiers and the rest are based on invitations and popularity, especially when half the poll is clearly not the cream of the foreign crop.
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Picked Bunny, he has been playing amazing of late
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Huk is definitely up there right now, showed really solid games in Destiny's tournament, WCS, and just won the Toronto LAN...
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On August 18 2014 05:02 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 04:27 stardog wrote: There is no clear top 4, I guess around 12 spots would be needed to contain all the serious contenders - both those who have been playing great in recent tournaments (like Bunny, HuK) and those on consistent, very good level for long time (like Nerchio, Vortix).
HuK advances to Ro16 ONCE and has been doing great lately. vortix does it every season without exception. its absolutly clear who is the better player.
You know...I'm not a fan of Huk, I consider Vortix to be a better player, but I don't really like your analogy since WCS America is much, much harder than WCS Europe.
Acting like Ro16 WCS Europe and Ro16 WCS America are comparable is like claiming that BlinG is on an equal level to Scarlett, since they've both made Ro16 once this year.
(If anything, WCS EU Ro8 is probably similar to WCS AM Ro16. WCS AM does have about twice as many koreans as WCS EU; to make it to WCS AM Ro16 you almost always have to either be korean or beat a korean. WCS EU isn't like that until Ro8).
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On August 18 2014 15:25 metroid composite wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 05:02 KalWarkov wrote:On August 18 2014 04:27 stardog wrote: There is no clear top 4, I guess around 12 spots would be needed to contain all the serious contenders - both those who have been playing great in recent tournaments (like Bunny, HuK) and those on consistent, very good level for long time (like Nerchio, Vortix).
HuK advances to Ro16 ONCE and has been doing great lately. vortix does it every season without exception. its absolutly clear who is the better player. You know...I'm not a fan of Huk, I consider Vortix to be a better player, but I don't really like your analogy since WCS America is much, much harder than WCS Europe. Acting like Ro16 WCS Europe and Ro16 WCS America are comparable is like claiming that BlinG is on an equal level to Scarlett, since they've both made Ro16 once this year. (If anything, WCS EU Ro8 is probably similar to WCS AM Ro16. WCS AM does have about twice as many koreans as WCS EU; to make it to WCS AM Ro16 you almost always have to either be korean or beat a korean. WCS EU isn't like that until Ro8).
Fun fact, Bling actually beat Scarlett last time they played. And that's not a fair comparison because Scarlett has had poor WCS performance all year.
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EZ money for Bunny, the one true B-god?
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On August 18 2014 15:25 metroid composite wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 05:02 KalWarkov wrote:On August 18 2014 04:27 stardog wrote: There is no clear top 4, I guess around 12 spots would be needed to contain all the serious contenders - both those who have been playing great in recent tournaments (like Bunny, HuK) and those on consistent, very good level for long time (like Nerchio, Vortix).
HuK advances to Ro16 ONCE and has been doing great lately. vortix does it every season without exception. its absolutly clear who is the better player. You know...I'm not a fan of Huk, I consider Vortix to be a better player, but I don't really like your analogy since WCS America is much, much harder than WCS Europe. Acting like Ro16 WCS Europe and Ro16 WCS America are comparable is like claiming that BlinG is on an equal level to Scarlett, since they've both made Ro16 once this year. (If anything, WCS EU Ro8 is probably similar to WCS AM Ro16. WCS AM does have about twice as many koreans as WCS EU; to make it to WCS AM Ro16 you almost always have to either be korean or beat a korean. WCS EU isn't like that until Ro8). You are nitpicking results.You could also say, that Guitarcheese, Illusion and Arium made it to WCS NA premier, while DH champion Sacsri, TargA, Mvp and Stephano dropped out of EU challenger.
Edit: Also, just to make KalWarkov happy (and because he deserves it), I voted for Vortix.
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Title is misleading. Please change "Six Best Foreign Players" to "Four Most Popular Players" to avoid confusion.
SC2 is turning ever more into a popularity contest with all those invite heavy tournaments.
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On August 18 2014 17:44 lotteryman wrote:
SC2 is turning ever more into a popularity contest with all those invite heavy tournaments.
So true. Invite tournaments always felt awkward to me and now it seems we have mostly these. Of course it would be not realistic to expect one man organized tournaments to have qualifiers, but it's still less appealing for me to watch them. :<
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voted for sen, i wanna see more of him
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On August 18 2014 18:20 [BSP]Kain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 17:44 lotteryman wrote:
SC2 is turning ever more into a popularity contest with all those invite heavy tournaments. So true. Invite tournaments always felt awkward to me and now it seems we have mostly these. Of course it would be not realistic to expect one man organized tournaments to have qualifiers, but it's still less appealing for me to watch them. :<
Why would you need to have dedicated qualifiers for a tournament? You can just say that you invite the next three winners of the Zotac cup and the next three winners of the Go4Sc2 Wednesday cups.
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It should be Scarlett, Snute, Sen, Bunny/Major/whoever, but that would be way too much ZvZ.
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honestly I think with the randomness of a draw, unless you make it like a best of 5 round robin featuring the top 30 players (as determined by what anyway?), which would be an absurd amount of games, you probably get more precise results with this type of poll.
I mean, so far top 3 is scarlett snute bunny, and it seems likely that all these get a spot. Scarlett and Snute have been the best two foreigners for some time, and bunny has arguably the most impressive recent performance out of anyone. And then the 4th spot is like, welmu major and nerchio, all players who are at least pretty close to the 4th spot, and then there's a qualifier where sen or vortix or whomever feels like they are unjustly left out can prove their worth and get a spot. (assuming you think that a qualifier would yield correct results in the first place, then certainly any player you think deserves to make it will end up qualifying. )
Having open qualifiers is a good way of making unknown talent get some spotlight. But it is not a good way of ensuring that the best players end up playing.
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VortiX, Snute, MajOr, Scarlett
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Welmu has dropped in WCS standings, but he's got this. SUOMI FINLAND PROTOSS
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WELMU IS THE BEST FOREIGNER VOTE HIM GODS SAKE
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