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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-17 20:08:17
August 17 2014 20:02 GMT
#41
On August 18 2014 04:27 stardog wrote:
There is no clear top 4, I guess around 12 spots would be needed to contain all the serious contenders - both those who have been playing great in recent tournaments (like Bunny, HuK) and those on consistent, very good level for long time (like Nerchio, Vortix).


HuK advances to Ro16 ONCE and has been doing great lately. vortix does it every season without exception. its absolutly clear who is the better player.

€: Mana more votes than vortix.
no offense to Mana, but Vortix would probably 5-0 him in a best of 9.
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-17 20:10:25
August 17 2014 20:08 GMT
#42
On August 18 2014 05:01 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 04:15 FilthyRake wrote:
Yeah HuK got my vote - he has been showing super well lately, and I'm hoping maybe he's back in form :D


he lost several times to mediocre players, too though in qualifiers and stuff. wouldnt happen to vortix. guy doenst lose against non koreans.
ever.


Well then voting for him wouldn't matter given your previous post and the fact that he could smash through the open bracket given your logic.

His ZvZ is good, but I'm skeptical of his other matchups, tbh.

Also stop fanboying so much, jeez
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
FilthyRake
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States473 Posts
August 17 2014 20:08 GMT
#43
On August 18 2014 05:01 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 04:15 FilthyRake wrote:
Yeah HuK got my vote - he has been showing super well lately, and I'm hoping maybe he's back in form :D


he lost several times to mediocre players, too though in qualifiers and stuff. wouldnt happen to vortix. guy doenst lose against non koreans.
ever.


you're quite right, but I personally dont *like* vortix :D so I wont vote for him. (I also dont expect HuK to get enough votes to make it in anyway, so why not vote for who I want?)
Co-owner of PSISTORM Gaming
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 17 2014 20:15 GMT
#44
On August 18 2014 05:08 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 05:01 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 18 2014 04:15 FilthyRake wrote:
Yeah HuK got my vote - he has been showing super well lately, and I'm hoping maybe he's back in form :D


he lost several times to mediocre players, too though in qualifiers and stuff. wouldnt happen to vortix. guy doenst lose against non koreans.
ever.


Well then voting for him wouldn't matter given your previous post and the fact that he could smash through the open bracket given your logic.

His ZvZ is good, but I'm skeptical of his other matchups, tbh.



last ZvT matches versus very good opponents (last 4 months)
2-1 vs MMA
3-2 vs jjakji
2-0 vs MMA
2-0 vs Mvp
0-3 vs jjakji
2-1 vs Revenge
2-1 vs MorroW
2-1 vs Happy
1-0 vs jjakji
0-1 vs Kas
0-1 vs Dayshi
2-1 vs ForGG
0-2 vs Dayshi
1-2 vs MMA
--> 19-16

ZvP
3-1 vs Stardust
0-1 vs HerO
1-0 vs MacSed
0-1 vs MacSed
2-1 vs MC
2-0 vs JYP
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs Harstem
1-2 vs Patience
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs MaNa
0-2 vs MC
(2-0 vs NightEnD)
--> 19(17)-10
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-17 20:23:00
August 17 2014 20:22 GMT
#45
On August 18 2014 05:15 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 05:08 vult wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:01 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 18 2014 04:15 FilthyRake wrote:
Yeah HuK got my vote - he has been showing super well lately, and I'm hoping maybe he's back in form :D


he lost several times to mediocre players, too though in qualifiers and stuff. wouldnt happen to vortix. guy doenst lose against non koreans.
ever.


Well then voting for him wouldn't matter given your previous post and the fact that he could smash through the open bracket given your logic.

His ZvZ is good, but I'm skeptical of his other matchups, tbh.



+ Show Spoiler +
last ZvT matches versus very good opponents (last 4 months)
2-1 vs MMA
3-2 vs jjakji
2-0 vs MMA
2-0 vs Mvp
0-3 vs jjakji
2-1 vs Revenge
2-1 vs MorroW
2-1 vs Happy
1-0 vs jjakji
0-1 vs Kas
0-1 vs Dayshi
2-1 vs ForGG
0-2 vs Dayshi
1-2 vs MMA
--> 19-16

ZvP
3-1 vs Stardust
0-1 vs HerO
1-0 vs MacSed
0-1 vs MacSed
2-1 vs MC
2-0 vs JYP
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs Harstem
1-2 vs Patience
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs MaNa
0-2 vs MC
(2-0 vs NightEnD)
--> 19(17)-10


That's not exactly the strongest lineup for each race. I mean, really? Beating Revenge, MorroW and Patience (and even MMA during his slump) isn't exactly HUGE. He is 5-4 vs Patience, and 0-3 vs Dayshi. Idk man...
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
August 17 2014 20:29 GMT
#46
Somehow making a poll with 4 options would have really made things a bit easier.
why even
madals
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom624 Posts
August 17 2014 20:35 GMT
#47
Noted all the feedback on the poll having 4 options - unfortunately this isn't something that I could do easily without using another website. That would make it hard to display within TL - it also means you can only vote for your favorite player

To the people saying a vote isn't skill, the 20 players were picked as they are the top 20 non-korean players in the 2014 global WCS rankings. There is also going to be an open bracket for the final 2 spots
Caster: @Madals91 http://www.youtube.com/Madals91 <--
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 17 2014 20:42 GMT
#48
On August 18 2014 05:22 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 05:15 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:08 vult wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:01 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 18 2014 04:15 FilthyRake wrote:
Yeah HuK got my vote - he has been showing super well lately, and I'm hoping maybe he's back in form :D


he lost several times to mediocre players, too though in qualifiers and stuff. wouldnt happen to vortix. guy doenst lose against non koreans.
ever.


Well then voting for him wouldn't matter given your previous post and the fact that he could smash through the open bracket given your logic.

His ZvZ is good, but I'm skeptical of his other matchups, tbh.



+ Show Spoiler +
last ZvT matches versus very good opponents (last 4 months)
2-1 vs MMA
3-2 vs jjakji
2-0 vs MMA
2-0 vs Mvp
0-3 vs jjakji
2-1 vs Revenge
2-1 vs MorroW
2-1 vs Happy
1-0 vs jjakji
0-1 vs Kas
0-1 vs Dayshi
2-1 vs ForGG
0-2 vs Dayshi
1-2 vs MMA
--> 19-16

ZvP
3-1 vs Stardust
0-1 vs HerO
1-0 vs MacSed
0-1 vs MacSed
2-1 vs MC
2-0 vs JYP
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs Harstem
1-2 vs Patience
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs MaNa
0-2 vs MC
(2-0 vs NightEnD)
--> 19(17)-10


That's not exactly the strongest lineup for each race. I mean, really? Beating Revenge, MorroW and Patience (and even MMA during his slump) isn't exactly HUGE. He is 5-4 vs Patience, and 0-3 vs Dayshi. Idk man...


that wasnt in MMA's slump. MMA is a slump right now, too?

and the list of players is far more impressive than the list of any other foreigner lately besides snute and scarlett and MAYBE major cuz he beat polt a lot. by far.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
August 17 2014 20:43 GMT
#49
Scarlett was already winning by such a comfortable margin that I voted for Major, because he's not getting enough credit, and because Dayshi's too far behind in the rankings for my vote to matter much.
"I had to close the door so my parents wouldn't judge me." - ZombieGrub during the ShitfaceTradeTV stream
Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-17 20:52:30
August 17 2014 20:48 GMT
#50
Someone learned for that awesonely big fail Destiny was responsible for, lol

Seeing VottiX behind Bunny, Sen, HuK, Nerchio and Welmu looks like a big joke imo.
Maru | Dark | Zest | Reynor | Scarlett
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-17 20:51:34
August 17 2014 20:49 GMT
#51
Wow Vortix has actually so few votes.... That's a bit sad he's clearly top 4. Too bad we only see him in WCS EU + some DH
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 17 2014 20:51 GMT
#52
On August 18 2014 05:49 Faefae wrote:
Wow Vortix has actually so few votes.... That's a bit sad he's clearly top 4. Too bad we only see him in WCS EU + some DH

It's time to launch the Millenium community machine.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
August 17 2014 20:59 GMT
#53
On August 18 2014 05:48 Kimb3r wrote:
Someone learned for that awesonely big fail Destiny was responsible for, lol

Seeing VottiX behind Bunny, Sen, HuK, Nerchio and Welmu looks like a big joke imo.

Weird you mentioning all of those guys being ahead of Vortix and forget Mana.
why even
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 17 2014 21:13 GMT
#54
On August 18 2014 05:42 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 05:22 vult wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:15 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:08 vult wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:01 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 18 2014 04:15 FilthyRake wrote:
Yeah HuK got my vote - he has been showing super well lately, and I'm hoping maybe he's back in form :D


he lost several times to mediocre players, too though in qualifiers and stuff. wouldnt happen to vortix. guy doenst lose against non koreans.
ever.


Well then voting for him wouldn't matter given your previous post and the fact that he could smash through the open bracket given your logic.

His ZvZ is good, but I'm skeptical of his other matchups, tbh.



+ Show Spoiler +
last ZvT matches versus very good opponents (last 4 months)
2-1 vs MMA
3-2 vs jjakji
2-0 vs MMA
2-0 vs Mvp
0-3 vs jjakji
2-1 vs Revenge
2-1 vs MorroW
2-1 vs Happy
1-0 vs jjakji
0-1 vs Kas
0-1 vs Dayshi
2-1 vs ForGG
0-2 vs Dayshi
1-2 vs MMA
--> 19-16

ZvP
3-1 vs Stardust
0-1 vs HerO
1-0 vs MacSed
0-1 vs MacSed
2-1 vs MC
2-0 vs JYP
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs Harstem
1-2 vs Patience
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs MaNa
0-2 vs MC
(2-0 vs NightEnD)
--> 19(17)-10


That's not exactly the strongest lineup for each race. I mean, really? Beating Revenge, MorroW and Patience (and even MMA during his slump) isn't exactly HUGE. He is 5-4 vs Patience, and 0-3 vs Dayshi. Idk man...


that wasnt in MMA's slump. MMA is a slump right now, too?

and the list of players is far more impressive than the list of any other foreigner lately besides snute and scarlett and MAYBE major cuz he beat polt a lot. by far.


Bunny's last 2-4 months (what I consider the best couple months out of any foreigner in a long time):

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]


I'm not saying Vortix is bad, in fact I think he is one of the best foreigners, as you obviously also do. I just think you are grossly overhyping him.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 17 2014 21:18 GMT
#55
On August 18 2014 06:13 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 05:42 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:22 vult wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:15 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:08 vult wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:01 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 18 2014 04:15 FilthyRake wrote:
Yeah HuK got my vote - he has been showing super well lately, and I'm hoping maybe he's back in form :D


he lost several times to mediocre players, too though in qualifiers and stuff. wouldnt happen to vortix. guy doenst lose against non koreans.
ever.


Well then voting for him wouldn't matter given your previous post and the fact that he could smash through the open bracket given your logic.

His ZvZ is good, but I'm skeptical of his other matchups, tbh.



+ Show Spoiler +
last ZvT matches versus very good opponents (last 4 months)
2-1 vs MMA
3-2 vs jjakji
2-0 vs MMA
2-0 vs Mvp
0-3 vs jjakji
2-1 vs Revenge
2-1 vs MorroW
2-1 vs Happy
1-0 vs jjakji
0-1 vs Kas
0-1 vs Dayshi
2-1 vs ForGG
0-2 vs Dayshi
1-2 vs MMA
--> 19-16

ZvP
3-1 vs Stardust
0-1 vs HerO
1-0 vs MacSed
0-1 vs MacSed
2-1 vs MC
2-0 vs JYP
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs Harstem
1-2 vs Patience
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs MaNa
0-2 vs MC
(2-0 vs NightEnD)
--> 19(17)-10


That's not exactly the strongest lineup for each race. I mean, really? Beating Revenge, MorroW and Patience (and even MMA during his slump) isn't exactly HUGE. He is 5-4 vs Patience, and 0-3 vs Dayshi. Idk man...


that wasnt in MMA's slump. MMA is a slump right now, too?

and the list of players is far more impressive than the list of any other foreigner lately besides snute and scarlett and MAYBE major cuz he beat polt a lot. by far.


Bunny's last 2-4 months (what I consider the best couple months out of any foreigner in a long time):

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]


I'm not saying Vortix is bad, in fact I think he is one of the best foreigners, as you obviously also do. I just think you are grossly overhyping him.


Bunny if probably the best foreigner right now, it's really hard to deny looking at those results.
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[BSP]Kain
Profile Joined May 2014
119 Posts
August 17 2014 21:35 GMT
#56
Option to cast only one vote is far from good idea. :<
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
August 17 2014 21:37 GMT
#57
On August 18 2014 06:13 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 05:42 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:22 vult wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:15 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:08 vult wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:01 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 18 2014 04:15 FilthyRake wrote:
Yeah HuK got my vote - he has been showing super well lately, and I'm hoping maybe he's back in form :D


he lost several times to mediocre players, too though in qualifiers and stuff. wouldnt happen to vortix. guy doenst lose against non koreans.
ever.


Well then voting for him wouldn't matter given your previous post and the fact that he could smash through the open bracket given your logic.

His ZvZ is good, but I'm skeptical of his other matchups, tbh.



+ Show Spoiler +
last ZvT matches versus very good opponents (last 4 months)
2-1 vs MMA
3-2 vs jjakji
2-0 vs MMA
2-0 vs Mvp
0-3 vs jjakji
2-1 vs Revenge
2-1 vs MorroW
2-1 vs Happy
1-0 vs jjakji
0-1 vs Kas
0-1 vs Dayshi
2-1 vs ForGG
0-2 vs Dayshi
1-2 vs MMA
--> 19-16

ZvP
3-1 vs Stardust
0-1 vs HerO
1-0 vs MacSed
0-1 vs MacSed
2-1 vs MC
2-0 vs JYP
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs Harstem
1-2 vs Patience
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs MaNa
0-2 vs MC
(2-0 vs NightEnD)
--> 19(17)-10


That's not exactly the strongest lineup for each race. I mean, really? Beating Revenge, MorroW and Patience (and even MMA during his slump) isn't exactly HUGE. He is 5-4 vs Patience, and 0-3 vs Dayshi. Idk man...


that wasnt in MMA's slump. MMA is a slump right now, too?

and the list of players is far more impressive than the list of any other foreigner lately besides snute and scarlett and MAYBE major cuz he beat polt a lot. by far.


Bunny's last 2-4 months (what I consider the best couple months out of any foreigner in a long time):

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]


I'm not saying Vortix is bad, in fact I think he is one of the best foreigners, as you obviously also do. I just think you are grossly overhyping him.

Come on guys, we even made a function to make it easier to do stuff like this:

Results for dk Bunny after 2014-05-01.

Games: 62.70% (116-69)
Matches: 67.90% (55-26)

Current form:
      W W W W W W L W W L
Recent matches:
       dk Bunny 1 – 3 kr RagnaroK
       dk Bunny 3 – 0 kr Cure
       dk Bunny 2 – 1 kr Armani
       dk Bunny 1 – 2 kr Symbol
       dk Bunny 2 – 0 kr Armani
       dk Bunny 4 – 2 kr HyuN
       dk Bunny 3 – 1 no Snute
       dk Bunny 2 – 1 de TLO
       dk Bunny 2 – 0 kr StarDust
       dk Bunny 2 – 0 uk DeMusliM


Filters:
+ Show Spoiler +
Opponent Race:    all
Opponent Country: all
Match Format: all
On/offline: both
Game Version: all

Stats by Aligulac. Link.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 17 2014 21:41 GMT
#58
On August 18 2014 06:37 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 06:13 vult wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:42 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:22 vult wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:15 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:08 vult wrote:
On August 18 2014 05:01 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 18 2014 04:15 FilthyRake wrote:
Yeah HuK got my vote - he has been showing super well lately, and I'm hoping maybe he's back in form :D


he lost several times to mediocre players, too though in qualifiers and stuff. wouldnt happen to vortix. guy doenst lose against non koreans.
ever.


Well then voting for him wouldn't matter given your previous post and the fact that he could smash through the open bracket given your logic.

His ZvZ is good, but I'm skeptical of his other matchups, tbh.



+ Show Spoiler +
last ZvT matches versus very good opponents (last 4 months)
2-1 vs MMA
3-2 vs jjakji
2-0 vs MMA
2-0 vs Mvp
0-3 vs jjakji
2-1 vs Revenge
2-1 vs MorroW
2-1 vs Happy
1-0 vs jjakji
0-1 vs Kas
0-1 vs Dayshi
2-1 vs ForGG
0-2 vs Dayshi
1-2 vs MMA
--> 19-16

ZvP
3-1 vs Stardust
0-1 vs HerO
1-0 vs MacSed
0-1 vs MacSed
2-1 vs MC
2-0 vs JYP
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs Harstem
1-2 vs Patience
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs MaNa
0-2 vs MC
(2-0 vs NightEnD)
--> 19(17)-10


That's not exactly the strongest lineup for each race. I mean, really? Beating Revenge, MorroW and Patience (and even MMA during his slump) isn't exactly HUGE. He is 5-4 vs Patience, and 0-3 vs Dayshi. Idk man...


that wasnt in MMA's slump. MMA is a slump right now, too?

and the list of players is far more impressive than the list of any other foreigner lately besides snute and scarlett and MAYBE major cuz he beat polt a lot. by far.


Bunny's last 2-4 months (what I consider the best couple months out of any foreigner in a long time):

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]


I'm not saying Vortix is bad, in fact I think he is one of the best foreigners, as you obviously also do. I just think you are grossly overhyping him.

Come on guys, we even made a function to make it easier to do stuff like this:

Results for dk Bunny after 2014-05-01.

Games: 62.70% (116-69)
Matches: 67.90% (55-26)

Current form:
      W W W W W W L W W L
Recent matches:
       dk Bunny 1 – 3 kr RagnaroK
       dk Bunny 3 – 0 kr Cure
       dk Bunny 2 – 1 kr Armani
       dk Bunny 1 – 2 kr Symbol
       dk Bunny 2 – 0 kr Armani
       dk Bunny 4 – 2 kr HyuN
       dk Bunny 3 – 1 no Snute
       dk Bunny 2 – 1 de TLO
       dk Bunny 2 – 0 kr StarDust
       dk Bunny 2 – 0 uk DeMusliM


Filters:
+ Show Spoiler +
Opponent Race:    all
Opponent Country: all
Match Format: all
On/offline: both
Game Version: all

Stats by Aligulac. Link.


The function doesn't go far enough back in match history to fully describe Bunny's hot streak.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
August 17 2014 23:27 GMT
#59
WELMU!!!!
Icebound Esports
HoMM
Profile Joined July 2010
Estonia635 Posts
August 17 2014 23:51 GMT
#60
I'm a huge Scarlett fan, but it looks like Bunny really needs the support so my vote goes for him right now!
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