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On August 18 2014 04:27 stardog wrote:
There is no clear top 4, I guess around 12 spots would be needed to contain all the serious contenders - both those who have been playing great in recent tournaments (like Bunny, HuK) and those on consistent, very good level for long time (like Nerchio, Vortix).
HuK advances to Ro16 ONCE and has been doing great lately. vortix does it every season without exception. its absolutly clear who is the better player.
€: Mana more votes than vortix.
no offense to Mana, but Vortix would probably 5-0 him in a best of 9. 
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On August 18 2014 05:01 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 04:15 FilthyRake wrote:
Yeah HuK got my vote - he has been showing super well lately, and I'm hoping maybe he's back in form :D he lost several times to mediocre players, too though in qualifiers and stuff. wouldnt happen to vortix. guy doenst lose against non koreans. ever.
Well then voting for him wouldn't matter given your previous post and the fact that he could smash through the open bracket given your logic.
His ZvZ is good, but I'm skeptical of his other matchups, tbh.
Also stop fanboying so much, jeez
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On August 18 2014 05:01 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 04:15 FilthyRake wrote:
Yeah HuK got my vote - he has been showing super well lately, and I'm hoping maybe he's back in form :D he lost several times to mediocre players, too though in qualifiers and stuff. wouldnt happen to vortix. guy doenst lose against non koreans. ever.
you're quite right, but I personally dont *like* vortix :D so I wont vote for him. (I also dont expect HuK to get enough votes to make it in anyway, so why not vote for who I want?)
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On August 18 2014 05:08 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 05:01 KalWarkov wrote:On August 18 2014 04:15 FilthyRake wrote:
Yeah HuK got my vote - he has been showing super well lately, and I'm hoping maybe he's back in form :D he lost several times to mediocre players, too though in qualifiers and stuff. wouldnt happen to vortix. guy doenst lose against non koreans. ever. Well then voting for him wouldn't matter given your previous post and the fact that he could smash through the open bracket given your logic. His ZvZ is good, but I'm skeptical of his other matchups, tbh.
last ZvT matches versus very good opponents (last 4 months)
2-1 vs MMA
3-2 vs jjakji
2-0 vs MMA
2-0 vs Mvp
0-3 vs jjakji
2-1 vs Revenge
2-1 vs MorroW
2-1 vs Happy
1-0 vs jjakji
0-1 vs Kas
0-1 vs Dayshi
2-1 vs ForGG
0-2 vs Dayshi
1-2 vs MMA
--> 19-16
ZvP
3-1 vs Stardust
0-1 vs HerO
1-0 vs MacSed
0-1 vs MacSed
2-1 vs MC
2-0 vs JYP
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs Harstem
1-2 vs Patience
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs MaNa
0-2 vs MC
(2-0 vs NightEnD)
--> 19(17)-10
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On August 18 2014 05:15 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 05:08 vult wrote:On August 18 2014 05:01 KalWarkov wrote:On August 18 2014 04:15 FilthyRake wrote:
Yeah HuK got my vote - he has been showing super well lately, and I'm hoping maybe he's back in form :D he lost several times to mediocre players, too though in qualifiers and stuff. wouldnt happen to vortix. guy doenst lose against non koreans. ever. Well then voting for him wouldn't matter given your previous post and the fact that he could smash through the open bracket given your logic. His ZvZ is good, but I'm skeptical of his other matchups, tbh. + Show Spoiler +last ZvT matches versus very good opponents (last 4 months)
2-1 vs MMA
3-2 vs jjakji
2-0 vs MMA
2-0 vs Mvp
0-3 vs jjakji
2-1 vs Revenge
2-1 vs MorroW
2-1 vs Happy
1-0 vs jjakji
0-1 vs Kas
0-1 vs Dayshi
2-1 vs ForGG
0-2 vs Dayshi
1-2 vs MMA
--> 19-16
ZvP
3-1 vs Stardust
0-1 vs HerO
1-0 vs MacSed
0-1 vs MacSed
2-1 vs MC
2-0 vs JYP
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs Harstem
1-2 vs Patience
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs MaNa
0-2 vs MC
(2-0 vs NightEnD)
--> 19(17)-10
That's not exactly the strongest lineup for each race. I mean, really? Beating Revenge, MorroW and Patience (and even MMA during his slump) isn't exactly HUGE. He is 5-4 vs Patience, and 0-3 vs Dayshi. Idk man...
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Somehow making a poll with 4 options would have really made things a bit easier.
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Noted all the feedback on the poll having 4 options - unfortunately this isn't something that I could do easily without using another website. That would make it hard to display within TL - it also means you can only vote for your favorite player 
To the people saying a vote isn't skill, the 20 players were picked as they are the top 20 non-korean players in the 2014 global WCS rankings. There is also going to be an open bracket for the final 2 spots
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On August 18 2014 05:22 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 05:15 KalWarkov wrote:On August 18 2014 05:08 vult wrote:On August 18 2014 05:01 KalWarkov wrote:On August 18 2014 04:15 FilthyRake wrote:
Yeah HuK got my vote - he has been showing super well lately, and I'm hoping maybe he's back in form :D he lost several times to mediocre players, too though in qualifiers and stuff. wouldnt happen to vortix. guy doenst lose against non koreans. ever. Well then voting for him wouldn't matter given your previous post and the fact that he could smash through the open bracket given your logic. His ZvZ is good, but I'm skeptical of his other matchups, tbh. + Show Spoiler +last ZvT matches versus very good opponents (last 4 months)
2-1 vs MMA
3-2 vs jjakji
2-0 vs MMA
2-0 vs Mvp
0-3 vs jjakji
2-1 vs Revenge
2-1 vs MorroW
2-1 vs Happy
1-0 vs jjakji
0-1 vs Kas
0-1 vs Dayshi
2-1 vs ForGG
0-2 vs Dayshi
1-2 vs MMA
--> 19-16
ZvP
3-1 vs Stardust
0-1 vs HerO
1-0 vs MacSed
0-1 vs MacSed
2-1 vs MC
2-0 vs JYP
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs Harstem
1-2 vs Patience
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs MaNa
0-2 vs MC
(2-0 vs NightEnD)
--> 19(17)-10 That's not exactly the strongest lineup for each race. I mean, really? Beating Revenge, MorroW and Patience (and even MMA during his slump) isn't exactly HUGE. He is 5-4 vs Patience, and 0-3 vs Dayshi. Idk man...
that wasnt in MMA's slump. MMA is a slump right now, too?
and the list of players is far more impressive than the list of any other foreigner lately besides snute and scarlett and MAYBE major cuz he beat polt a lot. by far.
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Scarlett was already winning by such a comfortable margin that I voted for Major, because he's not getting enough credit, and because Dayshi's too far behind in the rankings for my vote to matter much.
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Someone learned for that awesonely big fail Destiny was responsible for, lol
Seeing VottiX behind Bunny, Sen, HuK, Nerchio and Welmu looks like a big joke imo.
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Wow Vortix has actually so few votes.... That's a bit sad he's clearly top 4. Too bad we only see him in WCS EU + some DH
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On August 18 2014 05:49 Faefae wrote:
Wow Vortix has actually so few votes.... That's a bit sad he's clearly top 4. Too bad we only see him in WCS EU + some DH
It's time to launch the Millenium community machine.
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On August 18 2014 05:48 Kimb3r wrote:
Someone learned for that awesonely big fail Destiny was responsible for, lol
Seeing VottiX behind Bunny, Sen, HuK, Nerchio and Welmu looks like a big joke imo.
Weird you mentioning all of those guys being ahead of Vortix and forget Mana.
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On August 18 2014 05:42 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 05:22 vult wrote:On August 18 2014 05:15 KalWarkov wrote:On August 18 2014 05:08 vult wrote:On August 18 2014 05:01 KalWarkov wrote:On August 18 2014 04:15 FilthyRake wrote:
Yeah HuK got my vote - he has been showing super well lately, and I'm hoping maybe he's back in form :D he lost several times to mediocre players, too though in qualifiers and stuff. wouldnt happen to vortix. guy doenst lose against non koreans. ever. Well then voting for him wouldn't matter given your previous post and the fact that he could smash through the open bracket given your logic. His ZvZ is good, but I'm skeptical of his other matchups, tbh. + Show Spoiler +last ZvT matches versus very good opponents (last 4 months)
2-1 vs MMA
3-2 vs jjakji
2-0 vs MMA
2-0 vs Mvp
0-3 vs jjakji
2-1 vs Revenge
2-1 vs MorroW
2-1 vs Happy
1-0 vs jjakji
0-1 vs Kas
0-1 vs Dayshi
2-1 vs ForGG
0-2 vs Dayshi
1-2 vs MMA
--> 19-16
ZvP
3-1 vs Stardust
0-1 vs HerO
1-0 vs MacSed
0-1 vs MacSed
2-1 vs MC
2-0 vs JYP
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs Harstem
1-2 vs Patience
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs MaNa
0-2 vs MC
(2-0 vs NightEnD)
--> 19(17)-10 That's not exactly the strongest lineup for each race. I mean, really? Beating Revenge, MorroW and Patience (and even MMA during his slump) isn't exactly HUGE. He is 5-4 vs Patience, and 0-3 vs Dayshi. Idk man... that wasnt in MMA's slump. MMA is a slump right now, too? and the list of players is far more impressive than the list of any other foreigner lately besides snute and scarlett and MAYBE major cuz he beat polt a lot. by far.
Bunny's last 2-4 months (what I consider the best couple months out of any foreigner in a long time):
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm not saying Vortix is bad, in fact I think he is one of the best foreigners, as you obviously also do. I just think you are grossly overhyping him.
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On August 18 2014 06:13 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 05:42 KalWarkov wrote:On August 18 2014 05:22 vult wrote:On August 18 2014 05:15 KalWarkov wrote:On August 18 2014 05:08 vult wrote:On August 18 2014 05:01 KalWarkov wrote:On August 18 2014 04:15 FilthyRake wrote:
Yeah HuK got my vote - he has been showing super well lately, and I'm hoping maybe he's back in form :D he lost several times to mediocre players, too though in qualifiers and stuff. wouldnt happen to vortix. guy doenst lose against non koreans. ever. Well then voting for him wouldn't matter given your previous post and the fact that he could smash through the open bracket given your logic. His ZvZ is good, but I'm skeptical of his other matchups, tbh. + Show Spoiler +last ZvT matches versus very good opponents (last 4 months)
2-1 vs MMA
3-2 vs jjakji
2-0 vs MMA
2-0 vs Mvp
0-3 vs jjakji
2-1 vs Revenge
2-1 vs MorroW
2-1 vs Happy
1-0 vs jjakji
0-1 vs Kas
0-1 vs Dayshi
2-1 vs ForGG
0-2 vs Dayshi
1-2 vs MMA
--> 19-16
ZvP
3-1 vs Stardust
0-1 vs HerO
1-0 vs MacSed
0-1 vs MacSed
2-1 vs MC
2-0 vs JYP
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs Harstem
1-2 vs Patience
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs MaNa
0-2 vs MC
(2-0 vs NightEnD)
--> 19(17)-10 That's not exactly the strongest lineup for each race. I mean, really? Beating Revenge, MorroW and Patience (and even MMA during his slump) isn't exactly HUGE. He is 5-4 vs Patience, and 0-3 vs Dayshi. Idk man... that wasnt in MMA's slump. MMA is a slump right now, too? and the list of players is far more impressive than the list of any other foreigner lately besides snute and scarlett and MAYBE major cuz he beat polt a lot. by far. Bunny's last 2-4 months (what I consider the best couple months out of any foreigner in a long time): + Show Spoiler +I'm not saying Vortix is bad, in fact I think he is one of the best foreigners, as you obviously also do. I just think you are grossly overhyping him.
Bunny if probably the best foreigner right now, it's really hard to deny looking at those results.
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Option to cast only one vote is far from good idea. :<
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On August 18 2014 06:13 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 05:42 KalWarkov wrote:On August 18 2014 05:22 vult wrote:On August 18 2014 05:15 KalWarkov wrote:On August 18 2014 05:08 vult wrote:On August 18 2014 05:01 KalWarkov wrote:On August 18 2014 04:15 FilthyRake wrote:
Yeah HuK got my vote - he has been showing super well lately, and I'm hoping maybe he's back in form :D he lost several times to mediocre players, too though in qualifiers and stuff. wouldnt happen to vortix. guy doenst lose against non koreans. ever. Well then voting for him wouldn't matter given your previous post and the fact that he could smash through the open bracket given your logic. His ZvZ is good, but I'm skeptical of his other matchups, tbh. + Show Spoiler +last ZvT matches versus very good opponents (last 4 months)
2-1 vs MMA
3-2 vs jjakji
2-0 vs MMA
2-0 vs Mvp
0-3 vs jjakji
2-1 vs Revenge
2-1 vs MorroW
2-1 vs Happy
1-0 vs jjakji
0-1 vs Kas
0-1 vs Dayshi
2-1 vs ForGG
0-2 vs Dayshi
1-2 vs MMA
--> 19-16
ZvP
3-1 vs Stardust
0-1 vs HerO
1-0 vs MacSed
0-1 vs MacSed
2-1 vs MC
2-0 vs JYP
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs Harstem
1-2 vs Patience
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs MaNa
0-2 vs MC
(2-0 vs NightEnD)
--> 19(17)-10 That's not exactly the strongest lineup for each race. I mean, really? Beating Revenge, MorroW and Patience (and even MMA during his slump) isn't exactly HUGE. He is 5-4 vs Patience, and 0-3 vs Dayshi. Idk man... that wasnt in MMA's slump. MMA is a slump right now, too? and the list of players is far more impressive than the list of any other foreigner lately besides snute and scarlett and MAYBE major cuz he beat polt a lot. by far. Bunny's last 2-4 months (what I consider the best couple months out of any foreigner in a long time): + Show Spoiler +I'm not saying Vortix is bad, in fact I think he is one of the best foreigners, as you obviously also do. I just think you are grossly overhyping him.
Come on guys, we even made a function to make it easier to do stuff like this:
Results for   Bunny after 2014-05-01.
Games: 62.70% (116-69)
Matches: 67.90% (55-26)
Current form:
W W W W W W L W W L
Recent matches:
Bunny 1 – 3   RagnaroK
Bunny 3 – 0 Cure
Bunny 2 – 1 Armani
Bunny 1 – 2 Symbol
Bunny 2 – 0 Armani
Bunny 4 – 2 HyuN
Bunny 3 – 1  Snute
Bunny 2 – 1  TLO
Bunny 2 – 0  StarDust
Bunny 2 – 0  DeMusliM
Filters:
+ Show Spoiler +Opponent Race: all
Opponent Country: all
Match Format: all
On/offline: both
Game Version: all
Stats by Aligulac. Link.
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On August 18 2014 06:37 Grovbolle wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 06:13 vult wrote:On August 18 2014 05:42 KalWarkov wrote:On August 18 2014 05:22 vult wrote:On August 18 2014 05:15 KalWarkov wrote:On August 18 2014 05:08 vult wrote:On August 18 2014 05:01 KalWarkov wrote:On August 18 2014 04:15 FilthyRake wrote:
Yeah HuK got my vote - he has been showing super well lately, and I'm hoping maybe he's back in form :D he lost several times to mediocre players, too though in qualifiers and stuff. wouldnt happen to vortix. guy doenst lose against non koreans. ever. Well then voting for him wouldn't matter given your previous post and the fact that he could smash through the open bracket given your logic. His ZvZ is good, but I'm skeptical of his other matchups, tbh. + Show Spoiler +last ZvT matches versus very good opponents (last 4 months)
2-1 vs MMA
3-2 vs jjakji
2-0 vs MMA
2-0 vs Mvp
0-3 vs jjakji
2-1 vs Revenge
2-1 vs MorroW
2-1 vs Happy
1-0 vs jjakji
0-1 vs Kas
0-1 vs Dayshi
2-1 vs ForGG
0-2 vs Dayshi
1-2 vs MMA
--> 19-16
ZvP
3-1 vs Stardust
0-1 vs HerO
1-0 vs MacSed
0-1 vs MacSed
2-1 vs MC
2-0 vs JYP
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs Harstem
1-2 vs Patience
2-1 vs Patience
2-0 vs MaNa
0-2 vs MC
(2-0 vs NightEnD)
--> 19(17)-10 That's not exactly the strongest lineup for each race. I mean, really? Beating Revenge, MorroW and Patience (and even MMA during his slump) isn't exactly HUGE. He is 5-4 vs Patience, and 0-3 vs Dayshi. Idk man... that wasnt in MMA's slump. MMA is a slump right now, too? and the list of players is far more impressive than the list of any other foreigner lately besides snute and scarlett and MAYBE major cuz he beat polt a lot. by far. Bunny's last 2-4 months (what I consider the best couple months out of any foreigner in a long time): + Show Spoiler +I'm not saying Vortix is bad, in fact I think he is one of the best foreigners, as you obviously also do. I just think you are grossly overhyping him. Come on guys, we even made a function to make it easier to do stuff like this: Results for Bunny after 2014-05-01. Games: 62.70% (116-69) Matches: 67.90% (55-26) Current form: W W W W W W L W W L Recent matches: Bunny 1 – 3 RagnaroK Bunny 3 – 0 Cure Bunny 2 – 1 Armani Bunny 1 – 2 Symbol Bunny 2 – 0 Armani Bunny 4 – 2 HyuN Bunny 3 – 1 Snute Bunny 2 – 1 TLO Bunny 2 – 0 StarDust Bunny 2 – 0 DeMusliMFilters: + Show Spoiler +Opponent Race: all
Opponent Country: all
Match Format: all
On/offline: both
Game Version: all
The function doesn't go far enough back in match history to fully describe Bunny's hot streak.
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I'm a huge Scarlett fan, but it looks like Bunny really needs the support so my vote goes for him right now!
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