On August 05 2014 08:30 eviltomahawk wrote: Wow, the Jaedong anti-fans are out in force today. I, for one, would like to see Jaedong at Blizzcon again.
He's done nothing to deserve being there this year.
If Blizzcon wasn't hard capped at 16 players I'd have no problems with him being there.
But Jaedong at Blizzcon over Maru, Innovation or Soulkey? Hard to justify.
How doesn't he deserve it, he has gathered WCS points through the WCS system, just like everyone else. Maru and Soulkey has done nothing to deserve a blizzcon spot.
Mainly because the team sends him everywhere to rack up those WCS points? A lot more deserving people deserve the WCS points instead. Players like Maru, TY, or Soulkey for example. He's basically taking advantage of the fact that the team lets him travel.
On August 05 2014 08:51 Varroth wrote: Find it funny how people wanted higher prizepools for KR and slightly higher for AM and EU in exchange for no season finals and now everyone is whining about that...
Who wanted that? I didn't.
The Season finals produced easily the best games last year. They were the best events, they even trumped Blizzcon in terms of pure entertainment value.
Blizzard got rid of them because they were "too hard to follow" which makes about as much sense as Diablo 3's Elective Mode fiasco.
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On August 05 2014 08:30 eviltomahawk wrote: Wow, the Jaedong anti-fans are out in force today. I, for one, would like to see Jaedong at Blizzcon again.
He's done nothing to deserve being there this year.
If Blizzcon wasn't hard capped at 16 players I'd have no problems with him being there.
But Jaedong at Blizzcon over Maru, Innovation or Soulkey? Hard to justify.
How doesn't he deserve it, he has gathered WCS points through the WCS system, just like everyone else. Maru and Soulkey has done nothing to deserve a blizzcon spot.
Mainly because the team sends him everywhere to rack up those WCS points? A lot more deserving people deserve the WCS points instead. Players like Maru, TY, or Soulkey for example. He's basically taking advantage of the fact that the team can afford him to travel.
FTFY
Jaedong gets points because he's on EG. The system rewards the teams that already have money. That's a bad thing in any sport just ask MLB fans.
On August 05 2014 08:30 eviltomahawk wrote: Wow, the Jaedong anti-fans are out in force today. I, for one, would like to see Jaedong at Blizzcon again.
He's done nothing to deserve being there this year.
If Blizzcon wasn't hard capped at 16 players I'd have no problems with him being there.
But Jaedong at Blizzcon over Maru, Innovation or Soulkey? Hard to justify.
How doesn't he deserve it, he has gathered WCS points through the WCS system, just like everyone else. Maru and Soulkey has done nothing to deserve a blizzcon spot.
Mainly because the team sends him everywhere to rack up those WCS points? A lot more deserving people deserve the WCS points instead. Players like Maru, TY, or Soulkey for example. He's basically taking advantage of the fact that the team lets him travel.
And what exactly is wrong with that? Such a bad argument, holy fuck
On August 05 2014 08:30 eviltomahawk wrote: Wow, the Jaedong anti-fans are out in force today. I, for one, would like to see Jaedong at Blizzcon again.
He's done nothing to deserve being there this year.
If Blizzcon wasn't hard capped at 16 players I'd have no problems with him being there.
But Jaedong at Blizzcon over Maru or Soulkey? Hard to justify.
Well he's earned the points, so he deserves to be there.
Kespa teams don't want to send their players abroad to foreign tournaments to earn WCS points. It'd be unfair to give those players free tickets over those who have been to dozens of tournaments to work and try and earn their place. Regardless of the fact players like Maru and Soulkey may be better.
That said, WCS is meant to establish who is the best player in the world, so it is a little silly. Perhaps having more than 16 players would be better.
I'd argue that it's the Kespa players who literally don't have the free plane tickets to attend tournaments all over the world. They actually have to earn their WCS points the hard way, by practicing hard and being better at the game than everybody else.
On August 05 2014 08:30 eviltomahawk wrote: Wow, the Jaedong anti-fans are out in force today. I, for one, would like to see Jaedong at Blizzcon again.
He's done nothing to deserve being there this year.
If Blizzcon wasn't hard capped at 16 players I'd have no problems with him being there.
But Jaedong at Blizzcon over Maru, Innovation or Soulkey? Hard to justify.
How doesn't he deserve it, he has gathered WCS points through the WCS system, just like everyone else. Maru and Soulkey has done nothing to deserve a blizzcon spot.
Mainly because the team sends him everywhere to rack up those WCS points? A lot more deserving people deserve the WCS points instead. Players like Maru, TY, or Soulkey for example. He's basically taking advantage of the fact that the team lets him travel.
And what exactly is wrong with that? Such a bad argument, holy fuck
I'd argue it was better last year with the end of season tournaments. It allowed the 3rd-5th place players in the GSL a better chance to attend Blizzcon.
On August 05 2014 08:51 Varroth wrote: Find it funny how people wanted higher prizepools for KR and slightly higher for AM and EU in exchange for no season finals and now everyone is whining about that...
Who wanted that? I didn't.
The Season finals produced easily the best games last year. They were the best events, they even trumped Blizzcon in terms of pure entertainment value.
Blizzard got rid of them because they were "too hard to follow" which makes about as much sense as Diablo 3's Elective Mode fiasco.
That's not the reason. WCS EU/NA/KR Champions were irrelevant after someone won season final.
On August 05 2014 08:51 Varroth wrote: Find it funny how people wanted higher prizepools for KR and slightly higher for AM and EU in exchange for no season finals and now everyone is whining about that...
Who wanted that? I didn't.
The Season finals produced easily the best games last year. They were the best events, they even trumped Blizzcon in terms of pure entertainment value.
Blizzard got rid of them because they were "too hard to follow" which makes about as much sense as Diablo 3's Elective Mode fiasco.
Blizzard got rid of them because people on reddit, TL, battle.net forums, etc were clamoring to get rid of season finals. People said it cheapened the winners of each regional and that it disrupted storylines.
On August 05 2014 08:30 eviltomahawk wrote: Wow, the Jaedong anti-fans are out in force today. I, for one, would like to see Jaedong at Blizzcon again.
He's done nothing to deserve being there this year.
If Blizzcon wasn't hard capped at 16 players I'd have no problems with him being there.
But Jaedong at Blizzcon over Maru, Innovation or Soulkey? Hard to justify.
How doesn't he deserve it, he has gathered WCS points through the WCS system, just like everyone else. Maru and Soulkey has done nothing to deserve a blizzcon spot.
Mainly because the team sends him everywhere to rack up those WCS points? A lot more deserving people deserve the WCS points instead. Players like Maru, TY, or Soulkey for example. He's basically taking advantage of the fact that the team lets him travel.
Holy shit you are one of a kind! You play to win! That's how the game works! Just like when players cheese people you play to win no matter the cost now please shut up with your elitism
On August 05 2014 08:51 Varroth wrote: Find it funny how people wanted higher prizepools for KR and slightly higher for AM and EU in exchange for no season finals and now everyone is whining about that...
Who wanted that? I didn't.
The Season finals produced easily the best games last year. They were the best events, they even trumped Blizzcon in terms of pure entertainment value.
Blizzard got rid of them because they were "too hard to follow" which makes about as much sense as Diablo 3's Elective Mode fiasco.
That's not the reason. WCS EU/NA/KR Champions were irrelevant after someone won season final.
imo they're still irrelevant other than the kr champ, i don't hold pigbaby or stardust in any higher regard than a dh or iem winner.
On August 05 2014 08:58 The_Templar wrote: nat/rotti apparently don't watch proleague, they didn't mention sOs vs Zest which was pretty awesome when the DTs got involved
On August 05 2014 08:58 The_Templar wrote: nat/rotti apparently don't watch proleague, they didn't mention sOs vs Zest which was pretty awesome when the DTs got involved
I'm pretty lucky to have caught that one, actually. Definitely an amazing PvP, despite the Colossi.
On August 05 2014 08:30 eviltomahawk wrote: Wow, the Jaedong anti-fans are out in force today. I, for one, would like to see Jaedong at Blizzcon again.
He's done nothing to deserve being there this year.
If Blizzcon wasn't hard capped at 16 players I'd have no problems with him being there.
But Jaedong at Blizzcon over Maru, Innovation or Soulkey? Hard to justify.
How doesn't he deserve it, he has gathered WCS points through the WCS system, just like everyone else. Maru and Soulkey has done nothing to deserve a blizzcon spot.
Mainly because the team sends him everywhere to rack up those WCS points? A lot more deserving people deserve the WCS points instead. Players like Maru, TY, or Soulkey for example. He's basically taking advantage of the fact that the team lets him travel.
And what exactly is wrong with that? Such a bad argument, holy fuck
I don't know about you, but I want to watch games with high level play at Blizzcon. Games that will leave be breathless at least over 50% of the time throughout the best of X series. If I wanted to watch players because they were popular, I would watch them stream or something.
Just look at the NBA all star game. To me, ya it's the NBA All-Star Game and all the NBA stars have gathered to play a game of basketball. But more often than that, the game is just offense and players doing their own "amazing" thing, showing off their individual talents. They got nothing compared to say, game 3 of San Antonio Spurs vs Miami Heat this NBA finals. That was over 9000X more amazing to watch than an All-Star Game.
On August 05 2014 08:30 eviltomahawk wrote: Wow, the Jaedong anti-fans are out in force today. I, for one, would like to see Jaedong at Blizzcon again.
He's done nothing to deserve being there this year.
If Blizzcon wasn't hard capped at 16 players I'd have no problems with him being there.
But Jaedong at Blizzcon over Maru, Innovation or Soulkey? Hard to justify.
How doesn't he deserve it, he has gathered WCS points through the WCS system, just like everyone else. Maru and Soulkey has done nothing to deserve a blizzcon spot.
Mainly because the team sends him everywhere to rack up those WCS points? A lot more deserving people deserve the WCS points instead. Players like Maru, TY, or Soulkey for example. He's basically taking advantage of the fact that the team lets him travel.
And what exactly is wrong with that? Such a bad argument, holy fuck
What's wrong with that? Easy.
Jaedong's "hard earned" WCS points come from stomping foreign players and lower tier Koreans at Dreamhack and IEM. The competition he faces to earn those points is laughable compared to the competition in the Korean scene.
His point total doesn't reflect his actual results. It's not like he's Taeja who gets his insane point totals from WINNING every single foreign tournament, he gets his points just for placing. His 350 points from Dreamhack and IEM Ro4s are equal to a top 12 placing in WCS. Jaedong hasn't made it out of the Ro32 in WCS AMERICA all year and yet has more total points than finalists and semifinalists from other WCS regions.
On August 05 2014 08:30 eviltomahawk wrote: Wow, the Jaedong anti-fans are out in force today. I, for one, would like to see Jaedong at Blizzcon again.
He's done nothing to deserve being there this year.
If Blizzcon wasn't hard capped at 16 players I'd have no problems with him being there.
But Jaedong at Blizzcon over Maru, Innovation or Soulkey? Hard to justify.
How doesn't he deserve it, he has gathered WCS points through the WCS system, just like everyone else. Maru and Soulkey has done nothing to deserve a blizzcon spot.
Mainly because the team sends him everywhere to rack up those WCS points? A lot more deserving people deserve the WCS points instead. Players like Maru, TY, or Soulkey for example. He's basically taking advantage of the fact that the team lets him travel.
If Maru, TY or Soulkey wanted to participate in more tournaments, I am sure they could acquire a foreign team willing to send them to some. If they don't want to do what the EU/NA koreans are doing and instead focus on Proleague and a single WCS tournament, then that's their fault. They do not deserve to participate in a tournament they don't even try to qualify for. Jaedong is so undeserving, building his name and skill and acquiring a good team on the back of it. Heh.
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