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On August 05 2014 08:35 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 08:30 eviltomahawk wrote:
Wow, the Jaedong anti-fans are out in force today. I, for one, would like to see Jaedong at Blizzcon again. He's done nothing to deserve being there this year. If Blizzcon wasn't hard capped at 16 players I'd have no problems with him being there. But Jaedong at Blizzcon over Maru, Innovation or Soulkey? Hard to justify.
How doesn't he deserve it, he has gathered WCS points through the WCS system, just like everyone else. Maru and Soulkey has done nothing to deserve a blizzcon spot.
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On August 05 2014 08:38 shabby wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 08:35 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 05 2014 08:30 eviltomahawk wrote:
Wow, the Jaedong anti-fans are out in force today. I, for one, would like to see Jaedong at Blizzcon again. He's done nothing to deserve being there this year. If Blizzcon wasn't hard capped at 16 players I'd have no problems with him being there. But Jaedong at Blizzcon over Maru, Innovation or Soulkey? Hard to justify. How doesn't he deserve it, he has gathered WCS points through the WCS system, just like everyone else. Maru and Soulkey has done nothing to deserve a blizzcon spot.
The system is fundamentally broken due to the way it doles out points to 3rd party tournaments. Who "deserves" to be there is entirely up for debate.
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United States97277 Posts
boo Oz you were supposed to beat Jaedong
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On August 05 2014 08:38 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 08:35 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 05 2014 08:30 eviltomahawk wrote:
Wow, the Jaedong anti-fans are out in force today. I, for one, would like to see Jaedong at Blizzcon again. He's done nothing to deserve being there this year. If Blizzcon wasn't hard capped at 16 players I'd have no problems with him being there. But Jaedong at Blizzcon over Maru or Soulkey? Hard to justify. That said, WCS is meant to establish who is the best player in the world, so it is a little silly. Perhaps having more than 16 players would be better.
If there were 32 players at blizzcon you would always find someone sitting a the 40th place better than someone at 25th place!
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On August 05 2014 08:39 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 08:38 shabby wrote:On August 05 2014 08:35 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 05 2014 08:30 eviltomahawk wrote:
Wow, the Jaedong anti-fans are out in force today. I, for one, would like to see Jaedong at Blizzcon again. He's done nothing to deserve being there this year. If Blizzcon wasn't hard capped at 16 players I'd have no problems with him being there. But Jaedong at Blizzcon over Maru, Innovation or Soulkey? Hard to justify. How doesn't he deserve it, he has gathered WCS points through the WCS system, just like everyone else. Maru and Soulkey has done nothing to deserve a blizzcon spot. The system is fundamentally broken due to the way it doles out points to 3rd party tournaments. Who "deserves" to be there is entirely up for debate.
Best solution is probably to offer WCS points in Proleague.
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Russian Federation232 Posts
I think Rotterdam in the U.S. has learned this phrase "firing up" fell in love with it and uses it at least 3 times per minute.
"We're firing up the game"
"Polt is firing up the upgrades"
"Polt is firing up the marauder"
"he needs to fire up the bane speed or he's doomed"
"He's getting ready to fire up some units"
ahahahahaha Rotti I love you man, but you gotta change it up.
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Jaedong has earned the points just for GOING to the tournaments. He's earned a majority of his points off of placing 3-4th in 2 Dreamhacks and two IEMs.
In what way does that qualify him over Maru who's made it to back to back Ro4s in GSL? Jaedong wouldn't even QUALIFY for Code S the way he's been playing.
The whole system is completely screwed up. It rewards players on successful teams that just travel a lot. Results hardly matter.
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Holy fuck he does deserve to be in BlizzCon he has worked his ass off flying to all these tourneys so that he can go he fucking deserves it. You're saying that Maru should go because he's better but it's not a contest of whos the best ffs
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To be fair, one could quite easily say that several people at the last Blizzcon didn't deserve it because they were only doing well in a couple of WCS events (such as Alive or, ironically, sOs), while the points from having consistent results at all sorts of events weren't enough for someone like Hyun, who basically did last year what Jaedong did this year.
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On August 05 2014 08:41 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 08:39 TotalBiscuit wrote:On August 05 2014 08:38 shabby wrote:On August 05 2014 08:35 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 05 2014 08:30 eviltomahawk wrote:
Wow, the Jaedong anti-fans are out in force today. I, for one, would like to see Jaedong at Blizzcon again. He's done nothing to deserve being there this year. If Blizzcon wasn't hard capped at 16 players I'd have no problems with him being there. But Jaedong at Blizzcon over Maru, Innovation or Soulkey? Hard to justify. How doesn't he deserve it, he has gathered WCS points through the WCS system, just like everyone else. Maru and Soulkey has done nothing to deserve a blizzcon spot. The system is fundamentally broken due to the way it doles out points to 3rd party tournaments. Who "deserves" to be there is entirely up for debate. Best solution is probably to offer WCS points in Proleague.
if that was sarcasm you're amazing, if not think about what you just said in context haha. i think non-WCS tournaments shouldn't give any WCS points tbh.
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On August 05 2014 08:39 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 08:38 shabby wrote:On August 05 2014 08:35 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 05 2014 08:30 eviltomahawk wrote:
Wow, the Jaedong anti-fans are out in force today. I, for one, would like to see Jaedong at Blizzcon again. He's done nothing to deserve being there this year. If Blizzcon wasn't hard capped at 16 players I'd have no problems with him being there. But Jaedong at Blizzcon over Maru, Innovation or Soulkey? Hard to justify. How doesn't he deserve it, he has gathered WCS points through the WCS system, just like everyone else. Maru and Soulkey has done nothing to deserve a blizzcon spot. The system is fundamentally broken due to the way it doles out points to 3rd party tournaments. Who "deserves" to be there is entirely up for debate.
I get how people are jealous of people traveling around and gathering points. But no one is forced to compete in WCS or their 3rd party tournaments if they don't like the system. Doesn't mean those that do deserve it less. There are tons of good players in other sports that don't have the funding to travel travel and compete in large tournaments abroad, doesn't mean that the ones competing are less deserving. If anything they have been better at choosing their path and acquiring sponsors or teams that let them.
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Oz wins the Stargate coinflip.
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On August 05 2014 08:45 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 08:41 Larkin wrote:On August 05 2014 08:39 TotalBiscuit wrote:On August 05 2014 08:38 shabby wrote:On August 05 2014 08:35 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 05 2014 08:30 eviltomahawk wrote:
Wow, the Jaedong anti-fans are out in force today. I, for one, would like to see Jaedong at Blizzcon again. He's done nothing to deserve being there this year. If Blizzcon wasn't hard capped at 16 players I'd have no problems with him being there. But Jaedong at Blizzcon over Maru, Innovation or Soulkey? Hard to justify. How doesn't he deserve it, he has gathered WCS points through the WCS system, just like everyone else. Maru and Soulkey has done nothing to deserve a blizzcon spot. The system is fundamentally broken due to the way it doles out points to 3rd party tournaments. Who "deserves" to be there is entirely up for debate. Best solution is probably to offer WCS points in Proleague. if that was sarcasm you're amazing, if not think about what you just said in context haha. i think non-WCS tournaments shouldn't give any WCS points tbh.
Agreed. Foreign tournaments shouldn't be worth WCS points at all.
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the kespa elite is going strong today
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I don't like the sacrifice of a Phoenix there, but Oz just seems to be making a better composition.
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Russian Federation232 Posts
On August 05 2014 08:43 Varroth wrote:
Holy fuck he does deserve to be in BlizzCon he has worked his ass off flying to all these tourneys so that he can go he fucking deserves it. You're saying that Maru should go because he's better but it's not a contest of whos the best ffs
you guys have both fair points.
Jaedon flew all over the place and was pretty consistent and that's a great achievement; on the other hand someone like Maru who hasn't traveled but has played vs some of the best players in the world ALL THE TIME and placed twice top 4 in the GSL which is far harder than most foreign tournaments is penalized and likely won't attend. It's a shame because I feel the current top 16 is not bad but could be better if people like Maru were able to make it in. The system is not perfect and unfortunately probably never will.
We can hope Maru finally wins a GSL and gets enough points to jump in the top16, other than that, there is super low chances of Maru attending Blizzcon even tho I would LOVE for him to be there, I agree he deserves it.
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Find it funny how people wanted higher prizepools for KR and slightly higher for AM and EU in exchange for no season finals and now everyone is whining about that...
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Something Macsed something something Behind something Inca something something.
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On August 05 2014 08:51 Varroth wrote:
Find it funny how people wanted higher prizepools for KR and slightly higher for AM and EU in exchange for no season finals and now everyone is whining about that...
It's almost as if "the community" is not a single organism, but a diverse group of people who have differing opinions on how the system should work.
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