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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On June 26 2014 08:59 PhoenixVoid wrote: Fourty. Four. Mutas. And to think he could have built more had he not been supply blocked. Muta switches are so overhyped. It should never work against a protoss who is ahead on eco and isn't an idiot. Mass muta switches is a great way to look kind of cool before dying. | ||
The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On June 26 2014 09:00 The_Templar wrote: 27:00  NesTea 190 vs  Alicia 200Alicia going for the spine/spore wall and Nestea counterattacks. Mothership + army goes for Nestea's static defense and kills all of it. Nestea losing his counterattack to DTs. Nestea loses his fourth base. Nestea getting vipers + overseers, but loses corrupters. 29:00 NesTea 157 vs Alicia 194Nestea still going for his counterattack with ultralisks and overseers. More stargates for Alicia. Alicia kills Nestea's fourth as well. Alicia recalls and loses a lot of his army to ultralisks but crushes Nestea while retaining a lot of units. 44 mutalisks for Nestea. Alicia contains Nestea onto 2 bases. Nestea has almost no minerals but 4500 gas. 4 phoenixes on the way for Alicia. 31:00 NesTea 161 vs Alicia 200Alicia is completely ready for mutalisks but is out of position as Nestea runs them into the natural. Nestea kills a lot of the phoenixes but the army backs up into the mutalisks and Nestea is pretty much cornered. 33:00 NesTea 119 vs Alicia 192Alicia gets Nestea down to about 12 mutalisks and moves out again. Nestea trying to counterattack with swarmhosts. Nestea has some infestors and kills some phoenixes but loses the infestors to the ground army. 35:00 NesTea 77 vs Alicia 187Alicia attack-moving into Nestea's last mining base and Nestea GG's! Alicia wins 2-0! | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
Also I apparently just broke 5000 posts. Go me. | ||
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
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AWalker9
United Kingdom7229 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
Poll: Recommend Alicia vs Nestea Game 2? ★★★- Good game (4) ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) ★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Alicia vs Nestea Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what Poll: Recommend Alicia vs Nestea Game 3? ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) ★★★- Good game (1) ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) ★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Alicia vs Nestea Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what | ||
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Rain.100
Germany946 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On June 26 2014 09:02 Squat wrote: Muta switches are so overhyped. It should never work against a protoss who is ahead on eco and isn't an idiot. Mass muta switches is a great way to look kind of cool before dying. Unless your name contains the words "jae" and/or "dong" | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32743 Posts
On June 26 2014 09:02 Squat wrote: Muta switches are so overhyped. It should never work against a protoss who is ahead on eco and isn't an idiot. Mass muta switches is a great way to look kind of cool before dying. Considering Alicia barely lost his army and had his Stargate infrastructure it wouldn't have worked either way. And as you said, it's a nice way to go out in flames but likely won't do much unless you inflict game-ending amounts of damage to the Protoss. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On June 26 2014 09:02 Squat wrote: Muta switches are so overhyped. It should never work against a protoss who is ahead on eco and isn't an idiot. Mass muta switches is a great way to look kind of cool before dying. Well if Z does it all the time, it wont work. But if you don't start phoenix as he starts mutas, you are pretty dead in most situations. Even when ahead. So it depends on meta... And if the specific player does it a lot. | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On June 26 2014 09:03 Mozdk wrote: Well if Z does it all the time, it wont work. But if you don't start phoenix as he starts mutas, you are pretty dead in most situations. Even when ahead. So it depends on meta... And if the specific player does it a lot. Mutas are great if you can manipulate the game to where they can be effective, i.e. keep toss on three bases, make them commit huge amounts to phoenix while you expand everywhere. In the position he was in this game, even if Nestea gets 50 mutas before Alicia has a single phoenix out, it still shouldn't work. Just stay alive, get phoenix, win by default. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 26 2014 09:03 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Unless your name contains the words "jae" and/or "dong" I don't remember any muta switches in 2014 by jaedong? But then I only remember the 6 pylons and the 4 gate. | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On June 26 2014 09:09 stuchiu wrote: I don't remember any muta switches in 2014 by jaedong? But then I only remember the 6 pylons and the 4 gate. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WKbhwZg.png) | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On June 26 2014 09:09 stuchiu wrote: I don't remember any muta switches in 2014 by jaedong? But then I only remember the 6 pylons and the 4 gate. Jaedong vs Patience on Alterzim Stronghold, IEM Cologne. Hell there was an article on it. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On June 26 2014 09:09 stuchiu wrote: I don't remember any muta switches in 2014 by jaedong? But then I only remember the 6 pylons and the 4 gate. I'm almost sure he's done in a recent event. On June 26 2014 09:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Jaedong vs Patience on Alterzim Stronghold, IEM Cologne. That's the one I was think of. Thanks | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On June 26 2014 09:08 Squat wrote: Mutas are great if you can manipulate the game to where they can be effective, i.e. keep toss on three bases, make them commit huge amounts to phoenix while you expand everywhere. In the position he was in this game, even if Nestea gets 50 mutas before Alicia has a single phoenix out, it still shouldn't work. Just stay alive, get phoenix, win by default. Yeah the game was over. No more mining bases for Nestea and the muta switch made him broke. So ofc he cannot win at that point. Even if P does a basetrade, there is no way for Nestea to get back. I was just saying in general. I dislike mutas. Which must mean they are good  I like lings... Stay on lings, and I'll be fine... Hiding behind my high walls like King Priam of Troy :D | ||
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RatzBarcode
United States98 Posts
On June 26 2014 08:58 Squat wrote: Both. Watch some games from 2011/early 2012, keep bleach available for rinsing of eyes. People were just bad. Serious question, why does everyone say early SC2 was bad? No one went macro? Everyone did SCV pulls and one base raven plays? No splits? | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On June 26 2014 09:11 Mozdk wrote: Yeah the game was over. No more mining bases for Nestea and the muta switch made him broke. So ofc he cannot win at that point. Even if P does a basetrade, there is no way for Nestea to get back. I was just saying in general. I dislike mutas. Which must mean they are good I like lings... Stay on lings, and I'll be fine... Hiding behind my high walls like King Priam of Troy :D Well since the two zerg styles that work in the late game against P are mass muta and hosts, I guess we could nerf mutas if we buffed hosts, maybe we could make the locusts flying units. Sound good? | ||
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