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Flash looked very good. Top notch Terran play.
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On June 06 2014 11:31 jakethesnake wrote:Poll: Recommend Winners match game 2?Yes, Amazing game! (47) 82% Yes, Good game (3) 5% If you have time (5) 9% No (2) 4% 57 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners match game 2? (Vote): Yes, Amazing game!
(Vote): Yes, Good game
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No
Poll: Recommend Group H Winners match game 3?Yes, Amazing game! (4) 15% Yes, Good game (7) 26% If you have time (13) 48% No (3) 11% 27 total votes Your vote: Recommend Group H Winners match game 3? (Vote): Yes, Amazing game!
(Vote): Yes, Good game
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No
And this is why casters are paid more than players. They can make bad games entertaining.
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Life is probably very frustrated right now, his only chance of winning was Flash suicideing his ravens, anything else life did would just quicken his demise
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On June 06 2014 11:32 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 11:31 Faust852 wrote:On June 06 2014 11:30 sparklyresidue wrote:On June 06 2014 11:29 Faust852 wrote:On June 06 2014 11:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 06 2014 11:25 usopsama wrote:On June 06 2014 11:24 sparklyresidue wrote:
God mech is so stupidly boring God mech is so wonderful. I love watching Flash's mech destroy those boring swarmhosts.  Those 15 swarmhosts exist only so that mech army doesn't just outright march across and kill him. Maxed out mech armies are unbeatable and it's infuriating. C'mon it's not like you can"t win without SH. Roach Hydra Viper is a really effective composition. Hehe yes it's very effective at losing horribly. Tell that to Forgg when he lost with bigger army to blinding cloud of LiveZerg. But keep spouting non sense. ForGG isn't very impressive as of late.
Because Livezerg is. and 18-10 in ATC is kinda good.
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On June 06 2014 11:29 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 11:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 06 2014 11:25 usopsama wrote:On June 06 2014 11:24 sparklyresidue wrote:
God mech is so stupidly boring God mech is so wonderful. I love watching Flash's mech destroy those boring swarmhosts. Those 15 swarmhosts exist only so that mech army doesn't just outright march across and kill him. Maxed out mech armies are unbeatable and it's infuriating. C'mon it's not like you can"t win without SH. Roach Hydra Viper is a really effective composition.
Against an army like flash's roach hydra viper will never come close to effective enough. The game has become balanced along the idea that SH is the "mech counter" while that raven based death ball is the "sh counter". Its kind of like vortex vs blord infestor. It was balanced just around a silly concept
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On June 06 2014 11:32 sparklyresidue wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 11:31 Faust852 wrote:On June 06 2014 11:30 sparklyresidue wrote:On June 06 2014 11:29 Faust852 wrote:On June 06 2014 11:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 06 2014 11:25 usopsama wrote:On June 06 2014 11:24 sparklyresidue wrote:
God mech is so stupidly boring God mech is so wonderful. I love watching Flash's mech destroy those boring swarmhosts. Those 15 swarmhosts exist only so that mech army doesn't just outright march across and kill him. Maxed out mech armies are unbeatable and it's infuriating. C'mon it's not like you can"t win without SH. Roach Hydra Viper is a really effective composition. Hehe yes it's very effective at losing horribly. Tell that to Forgg when he lost with bigger army to blinding cloud of LiveZerg. But keep spouting non sense. Thanks for citing one instance where it worked. It's definitely not reliable in the long game, stop kidding yourself. Goodnight.
Because you have thousand of exemple where the T reach 20 ravens and straight out win, at top level gsl, right ?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 06 2014 11:29 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 11:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 06 2014 11:25 usopsama wrote:On June 06 2014 11:24 sparklyresidue wrote:
God mech is so stupidly boring God mech is so wonderful. I love watching Flash's mech destroy those boring swarmhosts. Those 15 swarmhosts exist only so that mech army doesn't just outright march across and kill him. Maxed out mech armies are unbeatable and it's infuriating. C'mon it's not like you can"t win without SH. Roach Hydra Viper is a really effective composition.
Roach Hydra Viper is so fucking dead that Hyun/Curious/Snute have all abandoned it.
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I gotta say it one more time. That was one of the best games Ive ever seen!
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On June 06 2014 11:33 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 11:29 Faust852 wrote:On June 06 2014 11:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 06 2014 11:25 usopsama wrote:On June 06 2014 11:24 sparklyresidue wrote:
God mech is so stupidly boring God mech is so wonderful. I love watching Flash's mech destroy those boring swarmhosts. Those 15 swarmhosts exist only so that mech army doesn't just outright march across and kill him. Maxed out mech armies are unbeatable and it's infuriating. C'mon it's not like you can"t win without SH. Roach Hydra Viper is a really effective composition. Against an army like flash's roach hydra viper will never come close to effective enough. The game has become balanced along the idea that SH is the "mech counter" while that raven based death ball is the "sh counter". Its kind of like vortex vs blord infestor. It was balanced just around a silly concept
Wasn't it pretty much Roach-Hydra-Viper that Curious used to beat Flash at IEM New York with a very similar army comp?
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On June 06 2014 11:34 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 11:32 sparklyresidue wrote:On June 06 2014 11:31 Faust852 wrote:On June 06 2014 11:30 sparklyresidue wrote:On June 06 2014 11:29 Faust852 wrote:On June 06 2014 11:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 06 2014 11:25 usopsama wrote:On June 06 2014 11:24 sparklyresidue wrote:
God mech is so stupidly boring God mech is so wonderful. I love watching Flash's mech destroy those boring swarmhosts. Those 15 swarmhosts exist only so that mech army doesn't just outright march across and kill him. Maxed out mech armies are unbeatable and it's infuriating. C'mon it's not like you can"t win without SH. Roach Hydra Viper is a really effective composition. Hehe yes it's very effective at losing horribly. Tell that to Forgg when he lost with bigger army to blinding cloud of LiveZerg. But keep spouting non sense. Thanks for citing one instance where it worked. It's definitely not reliable in the long game, stop kidding yourself. Goodnight. Because you have thousand of exemple where the T reach 20 ravens and straight out win, at top level gsl, right ?
ForGG vs LiveZerg was not GSL level either.
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On June 06 2014 11:33 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 11:29 Faust852 wrote:On June 06 2014 11:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 06 2014 11:25 usopsama wrote:On June 06 2014 11:24 sparklyresidue wrote:
God mech is so stupidly boring God mech is so wonderful. I love watching Flash's mech destroy those boring swarmhosts. Those 15 swarmhosts exist only so that mech army doesn't just outright march across and kill him. Maxed out mech armies are unbeatable and it's infuriating. C'mon it's not like you can"t win without SH. Roach Hydra Viper is a really effective composition. Against an army like flash's roach hydra viper will never come close to effective enough. The game has become balanced along the idea that SH is the "mech counter" while that raven based death ball is the "sh counter". Its kind of like vortex vs blord infestor. It was balanced just around a silly concept
You can get Hive much earlier with roach hydra, forcing tank and then just blinding cloud and win.
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On June 06 2014 11:33 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 11:29 Faust852 wrote:On June 06 2014 11:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 06 2014 11:25 usopsama wrote:On June 06 2014 11:24 sparklyresidue wrote:
God mech is so stupidly boring God mech is so wonderful. I love watching Flash's mech destroy those boring swarmhosts. Those 15 swarmhosts exist only so that mech army doesn't just outright march across and kill him. Maxed out mech armies are unbeatable and it's infuriating. C'mon it's not like you can"t win without SH. Roach Hydra Viper is a really effective composition. Against an army like flash's roach hydra viper will never come close to effective enough. The game has become balanced along the idea that SH is the "mech counter" while that raven based death ball is the "sh counter". Its kind of like vortex vs blord infestor. It was balanced just around a silly concept
I agree, the idea of the Swarmhosts is that it makes it so that super strong mech armies don't march across the map and win. Roach Hydra Viper requires you to take good engagements, which you cannot guarantee against someone with a strong mech army.
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On June 06 2014 11:34 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 11:33 chipmonklord17 wrote:On June 06 2014 11:29 Faust852 wrote:On June 06 2014 11:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 06 2014 11:25 usopsama wrote:On June 06 2014 11:24 sparklyresidue wrote:
God mech is so stupidly boring God mech is so wonderful. I love watching Flash's mech destroy those boring swarmhosts. Those 15 swarmhosts exist only so that mech army doesn't just outright march across and kill him. Maxed out mech armies are unbeatable and it's infuriating. C'mon it's not like you can"t win without SH. Roach Hydra Viper is a really effective composition. Against an army like flash's roach hydra viper will never come close to effective enough. The game has become balanced along the idea that SH is the "mech counter" while that raven based death ball is the "sh counter". Its kind of like vortex vs blord infestor. It was balanced just around a silly concept Wasn't it pretty much Roach-Hydra-Viper that Curious used to beat Flash at IEM New York with a very similar army comp?
Flash did not make any vikings or ravens.
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Not quite on the jjakji revival level of epic mech matches, but not far off either. Great game!
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On June 06 2014 11:34 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 11:34 Faust852 wrote:On June 06 2014 11:32 sparklyresidue wrote:On June 06 2014 11:31 Faust852 wrote:On June 06 2014 11:30 sparklyresidue wrote:On June 06 2014 11:29 Faust852 wrote:On June 06 2014 11:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 06 2014 11:25 usopsama wrote:On June 06 2014 11:24 sparklyresidue wrote:
God mech is so stupidly boring God mech is so wonderful. I love watching Flash's mech destroy those boring swarmhosts. Those 15 swarmhosts exist only so that mech army doesn't just outright march across and kill him. Maxed out mech armies are unbeatable and it's infuriating. C'mon it's not like you can"t win without SH. Roach Hydra Viper is a really effective composition. Hehe yes it's very effective at losing horribly. Tell that to Forgg when he lost with bigger army to blinding cloud of LiveZerg. But keep spouting non sense. Thanks for citing one instance where it worked. It's definitely not reliable in the long game, stop kidding yourself. Goodnight. Because you have thousand of exemple where the T reach 20 ravens and straight out win, at top level gsl, right ? ForGG vs LiveZerg was not GSL level either.
Because mech is just bad in general vs mech and these situations almost never happen. Appart from Flash, we don't see much mech players nowadays. Forgg does it sometime. Happy too.
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It ended! Amazing! That was the longest game I ever LR'd.
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On June 06 2014 11:35 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 11:33 chipmonklord17 wrote:On June 06 2014 11:29 Faust852 wrote:On June 06 2014 11:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 06 2014 11:25 usopsama wrote:On June 06 2014 11:24 sparklyresidue wrote:
God mech is so stupidly boring God mech is so wonderful. I love watching Flash's mech destroy those boring swarmhosts. Those 15 swarmhosts exist only so that mech army doesn't just outright march across and kill him. Maxed out mech armies are unbeatable and it's infuriating. C'mon it's not like you can"t win without SH. Roach Hydra Viper is a really effective composition. Against an army like flash's roach hydra viper will never come close to effective enough. The game has become balanced along the idea that SH is the "mech counter" while that raven based death ball is the "sh counter". Its kind of like vortex vs blord infestor. It was balanced just around a silly concept You can get Hive much earlier with roach hydra, forcing tank and then just blinding cloud and win.
Yeah but they're still gonna be building thors and vikings if they're sensible.
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As a Flash fan I am holding back the tears, sure was this game an hour? Yes. Does that mean it takes away from the absolute greatest skill ever shown? No! Flash may never be the greatest SC2 player, now he can say he played the greatest game ever in both games.
How Flash came back after that gigantic fungal is incredible. People angry about the run time need to realize just how much concentrated and consistent skill it took for Flash to keep up with the constant swarms of free units, mitigate their damage, keep his raven ball alive with those SICK PDDs as he was running from a muta flock hell bent on winning the game. He had to keep the other Ravens alive with Infestors, manuver his Thors and Tanks in great spaces, steal Lifes bases. For 45min-1hour.
Life was playing his style to near-perfection so Flash also had to play his mech style the best mech has ever been played vs. Swarm Host play.
Flash IMO gave the single best performance based on the rigors of the hour long game that I have seen.
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On June 06 2014 11:35 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 11:33 chipmonklord17 wrote:On June 06 2014 11:29 Faust852 wrote:On June 06 2014 11:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 06 2014 11:25 usopsama wrote:On June 06 2014 11:24 sparklyresidue wrote:
God mech is so stupidly boring God mech is so wonderful. I love watching Flash's mech destroy those boring swarmhosts. Those 15 swarmhosts exist only so that mech army doesn't just outright march across and kill him. Maxed out mech armies are unbeatable and it's infuriating. C'mon it's not like you can"t win without SH. Roach Hydra Viper is a really effective composition. Against an army like flash's roach hydra viper will never come close to effective enough. The game has become balanced along the idea that SH is the "mech counter" while that raven based death ball is the "sh counter". Its kind of like vortex vs blord infestor. It was balanced just around a silly concept You can get Hive much earlier with roach hydra, forcing tank and then just blinding cloud and win.
There is this unit called the viking that stops the blinding clouds. And even if they get close enough, there was this player named gumiho who actually beat it anyway with precise position on his tanks so that you needed at least 8 blinding blouds to stop his 8 tanks.
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