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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On June 06 2014 19:48 sharkie wrote: Maru and Bbyong are clear top2 MMA, Flash and Innovation share 3,4,5 in between Maybe Polt as well MMA higher than Polt in TvP? Please... | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On June 06 2014 19:48 Lorning wrote: He just went on a 14 game win streak in ATC. He has to lose a bit, else terran gets nerfed I need him in ro8 tough D: | ||
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gTank
Austria2647 Posts
On June 06 2014 19:51 Wintex wrote: What about for example introducing a thor change, which makes the spells it has cooldown based, and giving them an upgrade at like Tier 4/5 which requires the fusion core, but makes them deal extra shield damage. It's a bigger unit, it doesn't fly and it has a harder time dying. Problem is tempests. rather thor be buffed. Hmm yeah. What about that hyperjump ability they wanted to give battlecruisers? | ||
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Wintex
Norway16848 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
On June 06 2014 19:48 The_Templar wrote: 2:00 Hatchery first vs Nexus first. Third hatchery before spawning pool for Soulkey. Zest getting a gateway followed by two assimilators. 3:00 Cybernetics core. Faking a cannon rush for Zest. Spawning pool finishes. 4:00 Soulkey getting some queens. Soulkey getting zergling speed. Stargate for Zest. Roach warren for Zest. 5:00 Mothership core finishes. Zest building two more gateways. 6:00 Phoenix for Zest. Soulkey getting some roaches. Robotics facility for Zest. 7:00  Soulkey 62 vs  Zest 56Phoenixes moving out for the first time. Roaches attack and mostly die to a mothership cannon and some zealots, killing a sentry. Spore crawlers for Soulkey. 8:00 Soulkey 67 vs Zest 63+1 ground weapons for Zest. Zest cutting phoenix production at 6, getting a robotics bay. 9:00 Soulkey 79 vs Zest 71Soulkey fails to kill a probe before Zest takes a third base. Hydralisk den and evolution chamber for Soulkey. Zerglings and 2 roaches go for the zealots at the third base. 10:00 Soulkey 92 vs Zest 76Void ray and colossus as well as extended thermal lance. Zest lifts and kills a hydralisk. Hydralisk range on the way. Soulkey takes a fourth base. | ||
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Kitaen
Austria466 Posts
On June 06 2014 19:50 Vindicare605 wrote: It does at all levels on the ladder below high GM from what I've seen on streams. It's fucking hard as hell to play though, which is why most Terrans don't bother with it. Why bother playing an overall inferior style when it isn't even easier to play? the reason is not that it is hard, is simply uber boring if you need to turtle all game and NEVER have the ability to push since you will get absolutely murdered open field. if mech was somehow offensive viable more people would play it i think | ||
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sharkie
Austria18696 Posts
On June 06 2014 19:49 GumBa wrote: lol INnos TvP is miles better than MMAs top 5 is Maru Polt INno Bbyong Flash (Maybe) After Maru the positions fluctuate but in no way MMA and I say that as an MMA fan How is Inno better in TvP than Bbyong heh | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16124 Posts
On June 06 2014 19:52 gTank wrote: Hmm yeah. What about that hyperjump ability they wanted to give battlecruisers? That's not the problem. The Battlecruiser's mobility isn't why it's useless. It's useless because almost everything Protoss has is good against it. And then to top it off they have a unit that laughably hard counters it. | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
On June 06 2014 19:44 Kitaen wrote: lol you'r crazy, tank marine mirros produces the best games out of EVERYTHING sc2 can offer, i might be biased though, heh Maybe just a little, mate.  I try marine/tank and I find it boring. Hence, why I usually try to do something like double reactor reapers or 1/1/1 or a proxy thor drop to marine/thor rush. I especially enjoy this latter strategy - dropping a thor and then boosting out is hilarious. That said, I've been thinking I just need to learn how to play marine/tank out rather than letting frustration get the better of me. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
Argue why not you put MMA above Polt in TvP I am srsly doubting your credentials. And I said after Maru it fluctuates alot it depends on the given day | ||
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sharkie
Austria18696 Posts
I had very high regard for Polt's TvP and then he lost to both heros (who I both consider not being the best PvTers) | ||
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Wintex
Norway16848 Posts
On June 06 2014 19:54 sharkie wrote: I had very high regard for Polt's TvP and then he lost to both heros (who I both consider not being the best PvTers) herO(join) is weird tho. He just wins matches he shouldn't win. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On June 06 2014 19:54 sharkie wrote: I had very high regard for Polt's TvP and then he lost to both heros (who I both consider not being the best PvTers) INno recently beat HerO. Like I dont get your arguements nobody wins 100% of the time | ||
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Kitaen
Austria466 Posts
On June 06 2014 19:53 GumBa wrote: Just give us BW tanks and Toss wont get to tempests tanks are still fucking weak offensive. they might shorten to siegeup time or smth like that | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
On June 06 2014 19:45 OrjaN wrote: 1 more range, yes. Hardly worth mentioning as EMP still is a missile vs the instant cast of storm. Toss have also learned not to foolishly leave their templars in the front. They are usually behind the collosi and army or spread out, and it takes more than 1 emp to clear a clump of templars of their mana (which is why sometimes terrans prefer sniping them) | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
On June 06 2014 19:52 The_Templar wrote: 6:00 Phoenix for Zest. Soulkey getting some roaches. Robotics facility for Zest. 7:00 Soulkey 62 vs Zest 56Phoenixes moving out for the first time. Roaches attack and mostly die to a mothership cannon and some zealots, killing a sentry. Spore crawlers for Soulkey. 8:00 Soulkey 67 vs Zest 63+1 ground weapons for Zest. Zest cutting phoenix production at 6, getting a robotics bay. 9:00 Soulkey 79 vs Zest 71Soulkey fails to kill a probe before Zest takes a third base. Hydralisk den and evolution chamber for Soulkey. Zerglings and 2 roaches go for the zealots at the third base. 10:00 Soulkey 92 vs Zest 76Void ray and colossus as well as extended thermal lance. Zest lifts and kills a hydralisk. Hydralisk range on the way. Soulkey takes a fourth base. 12:00 Soulkey 104 vs Zest 104More drones being lifted by the 6 phoenixes, none of which have died. Roach and hydralisk speed being researched. Phoenixes whittle the drones down to 60, but 2 die to hydralisks. Infestation pit on the way for Soulkey. 13:00 Soulkey 142 vs Zest 132+2 ranged attack for Soulkey. Soulkey attacking the third and the natural but there are enough colossi to go around. Soulkey getting hive. Zest researching blink and +2 ground attack. 4 more gateways for Zest. 15:00 Soulkey 189 vs Zest 162Soulkey retreats to his fourth. Soulkey getting 2 vipers. Hydralisks and roaches moving towards Zest's third again as Zest moves towards the natural of Soulkey. Zest pulls probes. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 06 2014 19:55 GumBa wrote: INno recently beat HerO. Like I dont get your arguements nobody wins 100% of the time You mean lost to herO? | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16124 Posts
On June 06 2014 19:52 Kitaen wrote: the reason is not that it is hard, is simply uber boring if you need to turtle all game and NEVER have the ability to push since you will get absolutely murdered open field. if mech was somehow offensive viable more people would play it i think I don't think boredom has that much to do with it. The mass raven style that was real popular on the ladder against Zerg was the most mind numbingly boring style I've ever seen, but plenty of Terrans did it because it had a high win rate. | ||
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