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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
June 06 2014 10:44 GMT
#481
On June 06 2014 19:43 stuchiu wrote:
I just can't imagine Shine beating Inno, I don't think he has enough evil in him.


Oh stuichioiioiuu

Still so naive
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 06 2014 10:44 GMT
#482
On June 06 2014 19:43 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:43 GumBa wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:41 sharkie wrote:
Yeah like everyone said don't go lategame vs protoss
Even a ridicilous 5% win chance all in is better than to play vs storm and colossus x.x

So we can agree no Terran is good lategame TvP


I can agree with you there.

Ok then if you admit Inno is top 3-4 TvP
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
TW
Profile Joined March 2012
Poland255 Posts
June 06 2014 10:44 GMT
#483
Inno could have bigger chances if it wasnt for the cross spawns.

Same as on Alterzim, if you find yourself on cross spawns, your chances decrease by quite a lot.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
June 06 2014 10:45 GMT
#484
On June 06 2014 19:41 TW wrote:
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INno just shouldnt have gone into a lategame scenario against toss


SCVs pull or die tryin.


No lie, I had a game yesterday where I eventually lost in a macro game on King Sejong station (I fucking hate that map btw) where I had an opportunity to pull SCVs but decided to go for a third instead.

I have that fucking stigma in my head that SCV pulls are a cheesy move, but at this point I think I've stopped giving a shit. If the late game is going to be so fucking lopsided in terms of difficulty for the race especially at my level then I'm just not going to bother giving my opponent the opportunity to get there if they let me.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 06 2014 10:45 GMT
#485
On June 06 2014 19:43 stuchiu wrote:
I just can't imagine Shine beating Inno, I don't think he has enough evil in him.

Now you're taunting him
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gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
June 06 2014 10:45 GMT
#486
On June 06 2014 19:44 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:43 sharkie wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:43 GumBa wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:41 sharkie wrote:
Yeah like everyone said don't go lategame vs protoss
Even a ridicilous 5% win chance all in is better than to play vs storm and colossus x.x

So we can agree no Terran is good lategame TvP


I can agree with you there.

Ok then if you admit Inno is top 3-4 TvP

Easy, cause there are hardly more top terrans left.
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Kitaen
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria466 Posts
June 06 2014 10:45 GMT
#487
On June 06 2014 19:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:41 sharkie wrote:
Yeah like everyone said don't go lategame vs protoss
Even a ridicilous 5% win chance all in is better than to play vs storm and colossus x.x

The way people post, it's like Terrans don't win about 50% of their games against toss :x


thats correct, it's more likely 30%-40% given the same skill level
OrjaN
Profile Joined January 2012
Norway12 Posts
June 06 2014 10:45 GMT
#488
On June 06 2014 19:40 Parcelleus wrote:
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On June 06 2014 19:33 Wintex wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:30 Dreamer.T wrote:
That's every terran's worse nightmare.


It will forever annoy the crap out of me when I land EMPs all over the entire Protoss army, but still lose everything because one or two storms kills my entire ground force.

EMP and Storm are just not equally dangerous. Storm is definitely a lot more decisive in battles.

Only because EMP is the countermeasure and Storm is the... measure.

Engaging the protoss army will forever be a hard task. How to split to maximize the dps while surviving is a task few have mastered.


Then don't A-move. EMP has more range than storm.


1 more range, yes. Hardly worth mentioning as EMP still is a missile vs the instant cast of storm.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
June 06 2014 10:45 GMT
#489
On June 06 2014 19:39 Lorning wrote:
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On June 06 2014 19:38 TheDwf wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:38 Lorning wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:37 GumBa wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:36 Lorning wrote:
INno is good, but he's no Maru

He should take a note from Maru and end it before lategame

This is where he should leave his roboto mechanics behind and go for the cheese

Cheese in TvP?

Gimmicky builds then,

And never, ever let the protoss alone


I didn't watch that game but didn't Maru cheese Stork earlier in the RO 16?
KT best KT ~ 2014
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2601 Posts
June 06 2014 10:45 GMT
#490
On June 06 2014 19:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:41 sharkie wrote:
Yeah like everyone said don't go lategame vs protoss
Even a ridicilous 5% win chance all in is better than to play vs storm and colossus x.x

The way people post, it's like Terrans don't win about 50% of their games against toss :x


There is only one Terran in code S that seems to be able to win 50% of his games against toss.
You are not wrong
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 06 2014 10:45 GMT
#491
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(Z)Soulkey vs (P)Zest
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Map: Overgrowth


Soulkey spawns in the top right
Zest spawns in the bottom left
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 06 2014 10:45 GMT
#492
I want Soulkey to win and then INno to beat Zest in a rematch and show amazing TvP!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-06 10:46:03
June 06 2014 10:45 GMT
#493
There's no teal color on TL
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TL+ Member
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 06 2014 10:46 GMT
#494
On June 06 2014 19:45 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:44 GumBa wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:43 sharkie wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:43 GumBa wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:41 sharkie wrote:
Yeah like everyone said don't go lategame vs protoss
Even a ridicilous 5% win chance all in is better than to play vs storm and colossus x.x

So we can agree no Terran is good lategame TvP


I can agree with you there.

Ok then if you admit Inno is top 3-4 TvP

Easy, cause there are hardly more top terrans left.

Well there are way more decent TvZers and TvTers left
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 06 2014 10:46 GMT
#495
Dogling! :D
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Kitaen
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria466 Posts
June 06 2014 10:47 GMT
#496
On June 06 2014 19:45 gTank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:43 marvellosity wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:41 sharkie wrote:
Yeah like everyone said don't go lategame vs protoss
Even a ridicilous 5% win chance all in is better than to play vs storm and colossus x.x

The way people post, it's like Terrans don't win about 50% of their games against toss :x


There is only one Terran in code S that seems to be able to wipe the floor with lesser code s opponents most of the time.
You are not wrong


fixed
Xarles
Profile Joined July 2011
459 Posts
June 06 2014 10:47 GMT
#497
On June 06 2014 19:45 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:39 Lorning wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:38 TheDwf wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:38 Lorning wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:37 GumBa wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:36 Lorning wrote:
INno is good, but he's no Maru

He should take a note from Maru and end it before lategame

This is where he should leave his roboto mechanics behind and go for the cheese

Cheese in TvP?

Gimmicky builds then,

And never, ever let the protoss alone


I didn't watch that game but didn't Maru cheese Stork earlier in the RO 16?

Hasn't Maru cheesed all of his opponents?
Not that I mind, just saying. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TheFlexN
Profile Joined March 2012
Israel472 Posts
June 06 2014 10:47 GMT
#498
Taking the 9 oclock 5th was a terrible move by inno, taking the 1 oclock 5th was giving him a smaller area to defend and a more focused attack path to zest 4th and forcing zest to take a 5th that will leave him with a completely open main to medivac drops. the PF on the 4th was what making sure inno can safely expand to the east side of the map.
An Esports fan, playing SC2 and LoL because they are fun. Huge fan of mapmaking, Cloud Kingdom = best map ever made EVER.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 06 2014 10:47 GMT
#499
Pls dont break my heart twice in one day INno I think my passion will die
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 06 2014 10:47 GMT
#500
On June 06 2014 19:43 Heartland wrote:
I think we need to pay more attention to how late-game P army management is a lot about retreating and storm flanking. It's hard to fight the Terran army just in a straight up fight. It has to be zoned out, flanked and fought on favorable ground.

Exactly. A lot of terrans just accept the terms of the protoss. In a battle you should seek the favorable grounds yourself.

I wish players would build more turrets to counteract the possible drops, while also having like 2-3 marines patrolling for pylons.
A lot of the problems in TvP stem from the difficulty in obtaining vision at times where it's necessary. Making it the focus point more at the battle instead of thinking of possible shit is a way to make the engagements easier too.

Too bad that's reallllllyyy difficult.
The Bomber boy
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