• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:35
CEST 08:35
KST 15:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway112v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature3Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18Serral wins EWC 202549
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!10Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments7
StarCraft 2
General
Maestros of the Game RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread 2v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature Playing 1v1 for Cash? (Read before comment) Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!
Tourneys
$5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion ASL 20 HYPE VIDEO! New season has just come in ladder [ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro24 Group C [ASL20] Ro24 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro24 Group A
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Biochemical Cost of Gami…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1858 users

[Code S] Ro16 Group D Season 2 2014 - Page 23

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 21 22 23 24 25 66 Next
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
June 06 2014 10:38 GMT
#441
On June 06 2014 19:37 TW wrote:
Show nested quote +
INno is good, but he's no Maru


Maru lost to Stork also in a macro game, should find another Terran.


That was BO1 bullshit match.
He 2-0d him few days before in GSL
Stork not in RO8 WCS KR
Maru Is
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
June 06 2014 10:38 GMT
#442
On June 06 2014 19:34 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:33 zimms wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:18 aZealot wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:17 Crot4le wrote:
Come on INnoVation please win the group. I want a TvT GSL final.


Please, no. The boredom.


Yeah, enough of this TvT! I mean we just recently had a Code S TvT about 250 days ago.

He is talking about mirror matches in general. I agree with him, every non-mirror MU is better than mirror.


True, but I don't particularly like TvT either. It might be my most disliked mirror MU.
KT best KT ~ 2014
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 06 2014 10:38 GMT
#443
On June 06 2014 19:38 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:37 GumBa wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:36 Lorning wrote:
INno is good, but he's no Maru

He should take a note from Maru and end it before lategame

This is where he should leave his roboto mechanics behind and go for the cheese

Cheese in TvP?
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
June 06 2014 10:38 GMT
#444
On June 06 2014 19:32 graNite wrote:
and again, storm holds him in the game.
i wish emp flanks and ghost defenses would be this effective, too


Mules.

WP Zest solid stuff.
*burp*
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 06 2014 10:38 GMT
#445
On June 06 2014 19:37 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:36 The_Templar wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:36 GumBa wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:35 sharkie wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:31 sharkie wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:30 GumBa wrote:
INNO YOU ARE A GOD


No he really isn't...


Told you...

Innovation's TvP is not top level material

lol losing to Zest makes him bad?

+ Show Spoiler +
he also lost to herO in shoutcraft

So losing to 2 of the like top 5 toss in the world makes him bad?

No, but I wouldn't say he's the absolute best terran currently. That's obviously Flash
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 06 2014 10:38 GMT
#446
On June 06 2014 19:37 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:36 GumBa wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:35 sharkie wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:31 sharkie wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:30 GumBa wrote:
INNO YOU ARE A GOD


No he really isn't...


Told you...

Innovation's TvP is not top level material

lol losing to Zest makes him bad?


Zest is definitely the strongest protoss in the world but his PvT is by far his weakest matchup.
So yes losing to Zest in TvP makes you not top level TvP.

Like 2 terrans have beaten Zest you have a pretty high barrier of entry
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2569 Posts
June 06 2014 10:39 GMT
#447
On June 06 2014 19:38 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:37 TW wrote:
INno is good, but he's no Maru


Maru lost to Stork also in a macro game, should find another Terran.


That was BO1 bullshit match.
He 2-0d him few days before in GSL
Stork not in RO8 WCS KR
Maru Is


Both games were short. In lategame, I think even Maru will lose.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 06 2014 10:39 GMT
#448
On June 06 2014 19:38 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:34 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:33 zimms wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:18 aZealot wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:17 Crot4le wrote:
Come on INnoVation please win the group. I want a TvT GSL final.


Please, no. The boredom.


Yeah, enough of this TvT! I mean we just recently had a Code S TvT about 250 days ago.

He is talking about mirror matches in general. I agree with him, every non-mirror MU is better than mirror.


True, but I don't particularly like TvT either. It might be my most disliked mirror MU.

if you prefer ZvZ to TvT, you are quite literally insane.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
June 06 2014 10:39 GMT
#449
On June 06 2014 19:38 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:34 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:33 zimms wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:18 aZealot wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:17 Crot4le wrote:
Come on INnoVation please win the group. I want a TvT GSL final.


Please, no. The boredom.


Yeah, enough of this TvT! I mean we just recently had a Code S TvT about 250 days ago.

He is talking about mirror matches in general. I agree with him, every non-mirror MU is better than mirror.


True, but I don't particularly like TvT either. It might be my most disliked mirror MU.


TvT is the only reason I play Terran over the other two races.

I absolutely loathe playing ZvZ and PvP. I can watch them every now and then, but playing them is a fucking headache.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 06 2014 10:39 GMT
#450
On June 06 2014 19:36 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:33 Wintex wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:30 Dreamer.T wrote:
That's every terran's worse nightmare.


It will forever annoy the crap out of me when I land EMPs all over the entire Protoss army, but still lose everything because one or two storms kills my entire ground force.

EMP and Storm are just not equally dangerous. Storm is definitely a lot more decisive in battles.

Only because EMP is the countermeasure and Storm is the... measure.

Engaging the protoss army will forever be a hard task. How to split to maximize the dps while surviving is a task few have mastered.


And yet EMP has been nerfed not once but twice while Storm has stood pat since the Khaydarian Amulet nerf.

Sigh.

It's the one glorious thing about playing Mech. If I hit your army with EMP my fucking Tanks will rip it to shreds, it's actually a dangerous spell with that comp. Even if Mech has a ton of other weaknesses, being able to actually melt a Protoss army like they can melt a Terran's feels satisfying.

I do think just being dicks and forcing mech tvp to mirror bw would be the best shit ever.
The Bomber boy
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 06 2014 10:39 GMT
#451
On June 06 2014 19:38 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:38 Lorning wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:37 GumBa wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:36 Lorning wrote:
INno is good, but he's no Maru

He should take a note from Maru and end it before lategame

This is where he should leave his roboto mechanics behind and go for the cheese

Cheese in TvP?

Gimmicky builds then,

And never, ever let the protoss alone
Community News
TL+ Member
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 06 2014 10:39 GMT
#452
On June 06 2014 19:38 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:37 GumBa wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:36 The_Templar wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:36 GumBa wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:35 sharkie wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:31 sharkie wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:30 GumBa wrote:
INNO YOU ARE A GOD


No he really isn't...


Told you...

Innovation's TvP is not top level material

lol losing to Zest makes him bad?

+ Show Spoiler +
he also lost to herO in shoutcraft

So losing to 2 of the like top 5 toss in the world makes him bad?

No, but I wouldn't say he's the absolute best terran currently. That's obviously Flash

I am not saying INno is the best but like literally only Maru can be considered better
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
TW
Profile Joined March 2012
Poland255 Posts
June 06 2014 10:40 GMT
#453
That was BO1 bullshit match.
He 2-0d him few days before in GSL
Stork not in RO8 WCS KR
Maru Is


True, but still he lost a macro game, so even Maru cant win very late game TvP.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
June 06 2014 10:40 GMT
#454
On June 06 2014 19:39 gTank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:38 Pandemona wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:37 TW wrote:
INno is good, but he's no Maru


Maru lost to Stork also in a macro game, should find another Terran.


That was BO1 bullshit match.
He 2-0d him few days before in GSL
Stork not in RO8 WCS KR
Maru Is


Both games were short. In lategame, I think even Maru will lose.

Maru lost to stork in lategame, he has no chance against Zest.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
June 06 2014 10:40 GMT
#455
On June 06 2014 19:33 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:30 Dreamer.T wrote:
That's every terran's worse nightmare.


It will forever annoy the crap out of me when I land EMPs all over the entire Protoss army, but still lose everything because one or two storms kills my entire ground force.

EMP and Storm are just not equally dangerous. Storm is definitely a lot more decisive in battles.

Only because EMP is the countermeasure and Storm is the... measure.

Engaging the protoss army will forever be a hard task. How to split to maximize the dps while surviving is a task few have mastered.


Then don't A-move. EMP has more range than storm.
*burp*
Evenshade
Profile Joined July 2013
131 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-06 10:41:55
June 06 2014 10:40 GMT
#456
Shine to eliminate Inno then beat loser of Zest & SK.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 06 2014 10:40 GMT
#457
INno just shouldnt have gone into a lategame scenario against toss
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2569 Posts
June 06 2014 10:40 GMT
#458
On June 06 2014 19:40 Evenshade wrote:
Shine to eliminate Inno then beat winner of Zest & SK.


You mean loser right?
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
June 06 2014 10:41 GMT
#459
On June 06 2014 19:39 gTank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:38 Pandemona wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:37 TW wrote:
INno is good, but he's no Maru


Maru lost to Stork also in a macro game, should find another Terran.


That was BO1 bullshit match.
He 2-0d him few days before in GSL
Stork not in RO8 WCS KR
Maru Is


Both games were short. In lategame, I think even Maru will lose.


This is because you cannot go to late game vs Toss
But sure ill let you live with your opinion :D
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
TW
Profile Joined March 2012
Poland255 Posts
June 06 2014 10:41 GMT
#460
INno just shouldnt have gone into a lategame scenario against toss


SCVs pull or die tryin.
Prev 1 21 22 23 24 25 66 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Monday
00:00
#45
davetesta14
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 9142
Sea 3356
ggaemo 1633
Tasteless 315
TY 198
PianO 166
Leta 163
Backho 90
Bale 57
Movie 49
[ Show more ]
Shine 41
Noble 14
yabsab 4
ivOry 1
League of Legends
febbydoto5
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K875
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King149
Other Games
summit1g7718
C9.Mang0419
Trikslyr26
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick970
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH386
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1977
• Stunt632
Counter-Strike
• Shiphtur366
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
3h 25m
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4h 25m
Clem vs goblin
ByuN vs SHIN
Online Event
17h 25m
The PondCast
1d 3h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 4h
Zoun vs Bunny
herO vs Solar
Replay Cast
1d 17h
LiuLi Cup
2 days
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
[ Show More ]
SC Evo League
3 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
Classic vs Percival
Spirit vs NightMare
[BSL 2025] Weekly
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
SC Evo League
4 days
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Queen vs HyuN
EffOrt vs Calm
Wardi Open
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Rush vs TBD
Jaedong vs Mong
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Jiahua Invitational
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.