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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 06 2014 10:38 GMT
#441
On June 06 2014 19:37 TW wrote:
Show nested quote +
INno is good, but he's no Maru


Maru lost to Stork also in a macro game, should find another Terran.


That was BO1 bullshit match.
He 2-0d him few days before in GSL
Stork not in RO8 WCS KR
Maru Is
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aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
June 06 2014 10:38 GMT
#442
On June 06 2014 19:34 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:33 zimms wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:18 aZealot wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:17 Crot4le wrote:
Come on INnoVation please win the group. I want a TvT GSL final.


Please, no. The boredom.


Yeah, enough of this TvT! I mean we just recently had a Code S TvT about 250 days ago.

He is talking about mirror matches in general. I agree with him, every non-mirror MU is better than mirror.


True, but I don't particularly like TvT either. It might be my most disliked mirror MU.
KT best KT ~ 2014
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 06 2014 10:38 GMT
#443
On June 06 2014 19:38 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:37 GumBa wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:36 Lorning wrote:
INno is good, but he's no Maru

He should take a note from Maru and end it before lategame

This is where he should leave his roboto mechanics behind and go for the cheese

Cheese in TvP?
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
June 06 2014 10:38 GMT
#444
On June 06 2014 19:32 graNite wrote:
and again, storm holds him in the game.
i wish emp flanks and ghost defenses would be this effective, too


Mules.

WP Zest solid stuff.
*burp*
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 06 2014 10:38 GMT
#445
On June 06 2014 19:37 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:36 The_Templar wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:36 GumBa wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:35 sharkie wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:31 sharkie wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:30 GumBa wrote:
INNO YOU ARE A GOD


No he really isn't...


Told you...

Innovation's TvP is not top level material

lol losing to Zest makes him bad?

+ Show Spoiler +
he also lost to herO in shoutcraft

So losing to 2 of the like top 5 toss in the world makes him bad?

No, but I wouldn't say he's the absolute best terran currently. That's obviously Flash
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 06 2014 10:38 GMT
#446
On June 06 2014 19:37 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:36 GumBa wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:35 sharkie wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:31 sharkie wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:30 GumBa wrote:
INNO YOU ARE A GOD


No he really isn't...


Told you...

Innovation's TvP is not top level material

lol losing to Zest makes him bad?


Zest is definitely the strongest protoss in the world but his PvT is by far his weakest matchup.
So yes losing to Zest in TvP makes you not top level TvP.

Like 2 terrans have beaten Zest you have a pretty high barrier of entry
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2633 Posts
June 06 2014 10:39 GMT
#447
On June 06 2014 19:38 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:37 TW wrote:
INno is good, but he's no Maru


Maru lost to Stork also in a macro game, should find another Terran.


That was BO1 bullshit match.
He 2-0d him few days before in GSL
Stork not in RO8 WCS KR
Maru Is


Both games were short. In lategame, I think even Maru will lose.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 06 2014 10:39 GMT
#448
On June 06 2014 19:38 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:34 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:33 zimms wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:18 aZealot wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:17 Crot4le wrote:
Come on INnoVation please win the group. I want a TvT GSL final.


Please, no. The boredom.


Yeah, enough of this TvT! I mean we just recently had a Code S TvT about 250 days ago.

He is talking about mirror matches in general. I agree with him, every non-mirror MU is better than mirror.


True, but I don't particularly like TvT either. It might be my most disliked mirror MU.

if you prefer ZvZ to TvT, you are quite literally insane.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
June 06 2014 10:39 GMT
#449
On June 06 2014 19:38 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:34 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:33 zimms wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:18 aZealot wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:17 Crot4le wrote:
Come on INnoVation please win the group. I want a TvT GSL final.


Please, no. The boredom.


Yeah, enough of this TvT! I mean we just recently had a Code S TvT about 250 days ago.

He is talking about mirror matches in general. I agree with him, every non-mirror MU is better than mirror.


True, but I don't particularly like TvT either. It might be my most disliked mirror MU.


TvT is the only reason I play Terran over the other two races.

I absolutely loathe playing ZvZ and PvP. I can watch them every now and then, but playing them is a fucking headache.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
June 06 2014 10:39 GMT
#450
On June 06 2014 19:36 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:33 Wintex wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:30 Dreamer.T wrote:
That's every terran's worse nightmare.


It will forever annoy the crap out of me when I land EMPs all over the entire Protoss army, but still lose everything because one or two storms kills my entire ground force.

EMP and Storm are just not equally dangerous. Storm is definitely a lot more decisive in battles.

Only because EMP is the countermeasure and Storm is the... measure.

Engaging the protoss army will forever be a hard task. How to split to maximize the dps while surviving is a task few have mastered.


And yet EMP has been nerfed not once but twice while Storm has stood pat since the Khaydarian Amulet nerf.

Sigh.

It's the one glorious thing about playing Mech. If I hit your army with EMP my fucking Tanks will rip it to shreds, it's actually a dangerous spell with that comp. Even if Mech has a ton of other weaknesses, being able to actually melt a Protoss army like they can melt a Terran's feels satisfying.

I do think just being dicks and forcing mech tvp to mirror bw would be the best shit ever.
The Bomber boy
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 06 2014 10:39 GMT
#451
On June 06 2014 19:38 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:38 Lorning wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:37 GumBa wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:36 Lorning wrote:
INno is good, but he's no Maru

He should take a note from Maru and end it before lategame

This is where he should leave his roboto mechanics behind and go for the cheese

Cheese in TvP?

Gimmicky builds then,

And never, ever let the protoss alone
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 06 2014 10:39 GMT
#452
On June 06 2014 19:38 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:37 GumBa wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:36 The_Templar wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:36 GumBa wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:35 sharkie wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:31 sharkie wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:30 GumBa wrote:
INNO YOU ARE A GOD


No he really isn't...


Told you...

Innovation's TvP is not top level material

lol losing to Zest makes him bad?

+ Show Spoiler +
he also lost to herO in shoutcraft

So losing to 2 of the like top 5 toss in the world makes him bad?

No, but I wouldn't say he's the absolute best terran currently. That's obviously Flash

I am not saying INno is the best but like literally only Maru can be considered better
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
TW
Profile Joined March 2012
Poland255 Posts
June 06 2014 10:40 GMT
#453
That was BO1 bullshit match.
He 2-0d him few days before in GSL
Stork not in RO8 WCS KR
Maru Is


True, but still he lost a macro game, so even Maru cant win very late game TvP.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
June 06 2014 10:40 GMT
#454
On June 06 2014 19:39 gTank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:38 Pandemona wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:37 TW wrote:
INno is good, but he's no Maru


Maru lost to Stork also in a macro game, should find another Terran.


That was BO1 bullshit match.
He 2-0d him few days before in GSL
Stork not in RO8 WCS KR
Maru Is


Both games were short. In lategame, I think even Maru will lose.

Maru lost to stork in lategame, he has no chance against Zest.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
June 06 2014 10:40 GMT
#455
On June 06 2014 19:33 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:30 Dreamer.T wrote:
That's every terran's worse nightmare.


It will forever annoy the crap out of me when I land EMPs all over the entire Protoss army, but still lose everything because one or two storms kills my entire ground force.

EMP and Storm are just not equally dangerous. Storm is definitely a lot more decisive in battles.

Only because EMP is the countermeasure and Storm is the... measure.

Engaging the protoss army will forever be a hard task. How to split to maximize the dps while surviving is a task few have mastered.


Then don't A-move. EMP has more range than storm.
*burp*
Evenshade
Profile Joined July 2013
131 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-06 10:41:55
June 06 2014 10:40 GMT
#456
Shine to eliminate Inno then beat loser of Zest & SK.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 06 2014 10:40 GMT
#457
INno just shouldnt have gone into a lategame scenario against toss
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2633 Posts
June 06 2014 10:40 GMT
#458
On June 06 2014 19:40 Evenshade wrote:
Shine to eliminate Inno then beat winner of Zest & SK.


You mean loser right?
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 06 2014 10:41 GMT
#459
On June 06 2014 19:39 gTank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 19:38 Pandemona wrote:
On June 06 2014 19:37 TW wrote:
INno is good, but he's no Maru


Maru lost to Stork also in a macro game, should find another Terran.


That was BO1 bullshit match.
He 2-0d him few days before in GSL
Stork not in RO8 WCS KR
Maru Is


Both games were short. In lategame, I think even Maru will lose.


This is because you cannot go to late game vs Toss
But sure ill let you live with your opinion :D
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
TW
Profile Joined March 2012
Poland255 Posts
June 06 2014 10:41 GMT
#460
INno just shouldnt have gone into a lategame scenario against toss


SCVs pull or die tryin.
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