EPT[Code S] Ro16 Group C Season 2 2014 - Page 52
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Darkhorse
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Shellshock
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Zambrah
United States7300 Posts
 No SKT, no love. :< | ||
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Shellshock
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sparklyresidue
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tomastaz
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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stuchiu
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On May 30 2014 19:16 opterown wrote: i'm sure you realise peak skill mvp probably would get wiped by mid-GM terran these days right? players have improved so much since wol Thats not a fair assessment and you know it. The balance has changed, the maps have changed, the races have changed, the metagame has changed and Mvp was in large part responsible for multiple evolutions in Terran play. It's like saying, well I think Soulkey could beat oGsTOP, but if we had them play a WoL 2010 pre-patch Reaper on proxy metalopolis, steppes of war and desert oasis, I'd bet good money on oGsTOP beating the shit out of him. | ||
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imrusty269
United States1404 Posts
On May 31 2014 05:01 stuchiu wrote: Thats not a fair assessment and you know it. The balance has changed, the maps have changed, the races have changed, the metagame has changed and Mvp was in large part responsible for multiple evolutions in Terran play. It's like saying, well I think Soulkey could beat oGsTOP, but if we had them play a WoL 2010 pre-patch Reaper on proxy metalopolis, steppes of war and desert oasis, I'd bet good money on oGsTOP beating the shit out of him. To reiterate my point about some viewers seeing HoTS with crazy multitasking and say "OMG WoL players such noob compared to this". A lot of that can be attributed to David Kim increased the speed of the almost every unit. As an example, Polt wasn't a crazy nexus sniper back in WoL because slow medivacs wouldn't allow that. I think mechanics of players in late WoL is comparable, maybe only a bit worse than the players in HoTS. | ||
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cheekymonkey
France1387 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On May 31 2014 06:21 imrusty269 wrote: To reiterate my point about some viewers seeing HoTS with crazy multitasking and say "OMG WoL players such noob compared to this". A lot of that can be attributed to David Kim increased the speed of the almost every unit. As an example, Polt wasn't a crazy nexus sniper back in WoL because slow medivacs wouldn't allow that. I think mechanics of players in late WoL is comparable, maybe only a bit worse than the players in HoTS. Gumiho at the end of WoL had better multitasking than most players do now. | ||
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Popkiller
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On May 31 2014 05:01 stuchiu wrote: Thats not a fair assessment and you know it. The balance has changed, the maps have changed, the races have changed, the metagame has changed and Mvp was in large part responsible for multiple evolutions in Terran play. It's like saying, well I think Soulkey could beat oGsTOP, but if we had them play a WoL 2010 pre-patch Reaper on proxy metalopolis, steppes of war and desert oasis, I'd bet good money on oGsTOP beating the shit out of him. you really think that if SK had time to prepare for a BoX against TOP, knowing the map pool, that he'd still lose to 2010-era cheese? | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On May 31 2014 08:25 Popkiller wrote: you really think that if SK had time to prepare for a BoX against TOP, knowing the map pool, that he'd still lose to 2010-era cheese? 2010-era? Actually yes I'm with Stuchiu on this one. Shit was ridiculous back then xD | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On May 31 2014 05:01 stuchiu wrote: Thats not a fair assessment and you know it. The balance has changed, the maps have changed, the races have changed, the metagame has changed and Mvp was in large part responsible for multiple evolutions in Terran play. It's like saying, well I think Soulkey could beat oGsTOP, but if we had them play a WoL 2010 pre-patch Reaper on proxy metalopolis, steppes of war and desert oasis, I'd bet good money on oGsTOP beating the shit out of him. well if you wanna put balance into this, then that doesn't help mvp's case either, since terran was much stronger when he was strong... and i stand by my statement | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
such lol reasoning | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On May 31 2014 09:52 opterown wrote: well if you wanna put balance into this, then that doesn't help mvp's case either, since terran was much stronger when he was strong... and i stand by my statement He also won when Protoss was strong (The season where they were 5 protoss in the ro8) and during BL/infestor era. *Though I should clarify I think that Mvp is the greatest player. Not the most skilled, not the most dominant, but the greatest. What he had to do to win was insane and can no longer be replicated. | ||
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Shellshock
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stuchiu
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On May 31 2014 12:43 Shellshock wrote: MMA > Mvp A rule of the universe. Like Soo > Parting. Nada > Keen. Detection > Inca. 6 Pylons > Jaedong. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On May 31 2014 12:43 Shellshock wrote: MMA > Mvp I thought you didn't like mma | ||
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