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* = ace. Last player on team can be chosen from the entire lineup, even if the player was eliminated before.
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Poll: Head: Who do you think will win?Team Acer (13) 76% mousesports (4) 24% 17 total votes Your vote: Head: Who do you think will win? (Vote): Team Acer (Vote): mousesports
Poll: Heart: Who do you want to win?mousesports (13) 57% Team Acer (10) 43% 23 total votes Your vote: Heart: Who do you want to win? (Vote): Team Acer (Vote): mousesports
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Given the recent news with Vortix, I wonder if he will be played one more time.
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The other matches tomorrow will be
22.05. 18:00 Uhr NewRoSoft vs Millenium
22.05. 19:00 Uhr Empire-Fnatic vs Mousesports
Will post the threads tomorrow. Don't want to flood the tournament forum too much
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Hopefully mouz can at least put a fight.
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On May 22 2014 06:24 Bagration wrote: Given the recent news with Vortix, I wonder if he will be played one more time.
You mean that rumour that he might be leaving that everybody has taken as a 100% fact?
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Blimey there's a lot of ATC action today.
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On May 22 2014 17:49 Crot4le wrote: Blimey there's a lot of ATC action today. Well we should probably assume some kind of mishap will cost us at least one series, so it's good to be covered.
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So much ATC today jeez :o
Acer should dominate this.
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Temporary setback, let's get back to winning Acer!
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GOGO Acer! Time to wash away the shame
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Time to practice my viewing multitasking
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Oooof. Heromarine
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On May 23 2014 00:11 Bagration wrote: Time to practice my viewing multitasking i already failed
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Handsome Bly strikes again!
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Ok Acer may have failed against yoe Flash Wolves but they better not lose to Axiom's other play-off rivals mouz too.
Although I can't see mousesports winning this, Acer too strong and mouz don't have any Korean aces like yoeFW do in San and Leenock.
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On May 23 2014 00:14 Crot4le wrote: Ok Acer may have failed against yoe Flash Wolves but they better not lose to Axiom's other play-off rivals mouz too.
Although I can't see mousesports winning this, Acer too strong and mouz don't have any Korean aces like yoeFW do in San and Leenock.
Barring an unprecedented collapse, Acer will not lose to mouz. Quote me if I'm wrong, but I can't see Mouz getting past Innovation and MMA in 3 games
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On May 23 2014 00:19 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 00:14 Crot4le wrote: Ok Acer may have failed against yoe Flash Wolves but they better not lose to Axiom's other play-off rivals mouz too.
Although I can't see mousesports winning this, Acer too strong and mouz don't have any Korean aces like yoeFW do in San and Leenock. Barring an unprecedented collapse, Acer will not lose to mouz. Quote me if I'm wrong, but I can't see Mouz getting past Innovation and MMA in 3 games
Yeah with players like Innovation and MMA, and strong ZvZers in Scarlett and Nerchio, it should not be an issue at all.
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On May 23 2014 00:19 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 00:14 Crot4le wrote: Ok Acer may have failed against yoe Flash Wolves but they better not lose to Axiom's other play-off rivals mouz too.
Although I can't see mousesports winning this, Acer too strong and mouz don't have any Korean aces like yoeFW do in San and Leenock. Barring an unprecedented collapse, Acer will not lose to mouz. Quote me if I'm wrong, but I can't see Mouz getting past Innovation and MMA in 3 games
Well, I'm not sure whether inno would be sent this time since tomorrow's game will be very tough. It's already 00:30 in Korea.
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On May 23 2014 00:34 mooncifer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 00:19 Bagration wrote:On May 23 2014 00:14 Crot4le wrote: Ok Acer may have failed against yoe Flash Wolves but they better not lose to Axiom's other play-off rivals mouz too.
Although I can't see mousesports winning this, Acer too strong and mouz don't have any Korean aces like yoeFW do in San and Leenock. Barring an unprecedented collapse, Acer will not lose to mouz. Quote me if I'm wrong, but I can't see Mouz getting past Innovation and MMA in 3 games Well, I'm not sure whether inno would be sent this time since tomorrow's game will be very tough. It's already 00:30 in Korea.
If you can send MMA at least, that's still better than nothing
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Ok Scarlett, time to go ham
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is Scarlett going to mass muta again
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On May 23 2014 00:35 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 00:34 mooncifer wrote:On May 23 2014 00:19 Bagration wrote:On May 23 2014 00:14 Crot4le wrote: Ok Acer may have failed against yoe Flash Wolves but they better not lose to Axiom's other play-off rivals mouz too.
Although I can't see mousesports winning this, Acer too strong and mouz don't have any Korean aces like yoeFW do in San and Leenock. Barring an unprecedented collapse, Acer will not lose to mouz. Quote me if I'm wrong, but I can't see Mouz getting past Innovation and MMA in 3 games Well, I'm not sure whether inno would be sent this time since tomorrow's game will be very tough. It's already 00:30 in Korea. If you can send MMA at least, that's still better than nothing
I think MMA is available. They often practice till 2:00 ~ 3:00 a.m.
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starbuck just mindgamed scarlett pretty hard with the roach warren + melee ups. this game might get weird now
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Starbuck playing pretty well with his lings, not quite Life lings, but really close.
Also really close calls on the hatch/spire
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Acer's ZvZ surprisingly not on point lately
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On May 23 2014 00:52 vult wrote: Scarlett threw that :/ the supply was misleading because of her mutas. it was a really good hold by starbuck w/the infested terrans. also, while scarlett lacking armor doesn't matter too much in roach vs roach, it hurts very badly against hydras
she sacrificed army in the roach runby too and starbuck attacked before the economic damage hurt him
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If acer would somehow manage to lose 2 matches in a single day I would go insane
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On May 23 2014 00:53 Ej_ wrote: Acer's ZvZ surprisingly not on point lately
She's always been kinda weak in roach/hydra comps. Her true strength is in ling/muta, which requires early damage and constant aggression to be effective.
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On May 23 2014 00:55 GumBa wrote: If acer would somehow manage to lose 2 matches in a single day I would go insane Maybe innovation will keep the losing streak alive in code s
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7 minute hive zvt
i love starcraft
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On May 23 2014 01:06 nkr wrote: starbuck is amazing hahahahaha he surrounded the hellions while MMA was staring at the hive and trying to figure out what was going on, so sick
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Starbuck needs to go into the mineral line
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LOL STARBUCK WINS!
Called it too soon
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is this fucking happening
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Suicide ultras. Crazy game.
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imagine if it had been a swarm host followup
WHAT IS THIS GAME
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Cool game, but MMA should ahve this with getting that 4th up, unless Starbuck can get a sizable amount of BLs across the map.
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On May 23 2014 01:17 vult wrote: Cool game, but MMA should ahve this with getting that 4th up i really think starbuck had this if he didn't take so many drone losses. MMA has been totally outmultitasking him with the banshees and blue flame hellions. i would be so psyched to see this build executed by a top korean
oh jesus why is he sitting on the broods for so long
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Yeah i feel like if Starbuck had attacked with his first set of BLs he would have been successful. Now MMA has time to get Vikings/Ravens and harass
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Foreigners. Throwing games since 2010.
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Starback needs to take left base already wtf
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On May 23 2014 01:23 geokilla wrote: Foreigners. Throwing games since 2010. as bad and funny as this is, with better army control and better multitasking this looks pretty viable. the timings were ok but the execution was horrrrrrenddddddous
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Starbuck's late game control is not good. A-moving all BLs back to one place when 1-2 seekers are cast, making sure all the BLs get hit.
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On May 23 2014 01:26 vult wrote: Starbuck's late game control is not good. A-moving all BLs back to one place when 1-2 seekers are cast, making sure all the BLs get hit. and why the fuck did he throw 10-15 infested terrans into a sieged choke point when he wasn't even attacking? i mean wtf was that? that was actually a lot of fungal energy that could have hit the skyterran
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MMA's banshees too good. Without them he would have lost.
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On May 23 2014 01:27 Kihshra wrote: MMA's banshees too good. Without them he would have lost. bf hellion drops killed an insane number of drones before the banshees as well at the same time starbuck was ravaging the main, definitely kept him alive by forcing redroning
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On May 23 2014 01:27 Waise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 01:26 vult wrote: Starbuck's late game control is not good. A-moving all BLs back to one place when 1-2 seekers are cast, making sure all the BLs get hit. and why the fuck did he throw 10-15 infested terrans into a sieged choke point when he wasn't even attacking? i mean wtf was that? that was actually a lot of fungal energy that could have hit the skyterran
He wouldn't have been able to hit the fungals up the ramp due to the tanks, but god damn that was such a waste. They did absolutely nothing. Not like he could do much else with the infestors, though.
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On May 23 2014 01:28 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 01:27 Waise wrote:On May 23 2014 01:26 vult wrote: Starbuck's late game control is not good. A-moving all BLs back to one place when 1-2 seekers are cast, making sure all the BLs get hit. and why the fuck did he throw 10-15 infested terrans into a sieged choke point when he wasn't even attacking? i mean wtf was that? that was actually a lot of fungal energy that could have hit the skyterran He wouldn't have been able to hit the fungals up the ramp due to the tanks, but god damn that was such a waste. They did absolutely nothing. yeah true but he would have at least had the energy a minute later while he was falling back. i mean energy for nothing... never good D:
edit: oh shit uthermal is up 1-0 vs san in wcs europe
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On May 23 2014 01:28 Waise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 01:27 Kihshra wrote: MMA's banshees too good. Without them he would have lost. bf hellion drops killed an insane number of drones before the banshees as well at the same time starbuck was ravaging the main, definitely kept him alive by forcing redroning Yeah, but without the banshees he couldn't stop the ultras. MMA's banshees not only allowed him to kill the ultras, they also allowed him to come back in the game by killing more drones, although he already did some dmg to the econ of Starbuck with his hellions.
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On May 23 2014 01:30 Kihshra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 01:28 Waise wrote:On May 23 2014 01:27 Kihshra wrote: MMA's banshees too good. Without them he would have lost. bf hellion drops killed an insane number of drones before the banshees as well at the same time starbuck was ravaging the main, definitely kept him alive by forcing redroning Yeah, but without the banshees he couldn't stop the ultras. MMA's banshees not only allowed him to kill the ultras, they also allowed him to come back in the game by killing more drones, although he already did some dmg to the econ of Starbuck with his hellions. ironically i think MMA may have originally started going tank/banshee because he saw the 2 base roach/evo wall which ended up helping up against the ultras. in which case starbuck would have kind of anti-mindgamed himself
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On May 23 2014 01:18 Waise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 01:17 vult wrote: Cool game, but MMA should ahve this with getting that 4th up i really think starbuck had this if he didn't take so many drone losses. MMA has been totally outmultitasking him with the banshees and blue flame hellions. i would be so psyched to see this build executed by a top korean oh jesus why is he sitting on the broods for so long
MMA is a top Terran
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We might see Acer lose 2 times the same day
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Hasu on this map is always scary . Wp, this is really close. Time for King Artur.
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On May 23 2014 00:19 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 00:14 Crot4le wrote: Ok Acer may have failed against yoe Flash Wolves but they better not lose to Axiom's other play-off rivals mouz too.
Although I can't see mousesports winning this, Acer too strong and mouz don't have any Korean aces like yoeFW do in San and Leenock. Barring an unprecedented collapse, Acer will not lose to mouz. Quote me if I'm wrong, but I can't see Mouz getting past Innovation and MMA in 3 games
Fucking shit. Going to need Nerchio to take a ton of wins now.
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Looks like Acer stopped caring once they qualified.
Also I don't get these muta ZvZ builds Scarlett does, I think I've seen them work twice, if that.
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Why Nerchio and not INnoVation? Seriously Acer...
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On May 23 2014 02:03 Squat wrote: Looks like Acer stopped caring once they qualified.
Which is total bullshit because it's unfair on all the other teams that haven't yet who had to take them on when they were still taking it seriously.
EDIT: I forgot INnoVation has his Code S group tomorrow, my bad.
SECOND EDIT: But MMA doesn't, what the hell Acer?
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On May 23 2014 02:04 Crot4le wrote: Why Nerchio and not INnoVation? Seriously Acer... it's late and he got Code S tomorrow
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On May 23 2014 02:06 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 02:03 Squat wrote: Looks like Acer stopped caring once they qualified.
Which is total bullshit because it's unfair on all the other teams that haven't yet who had to take them on when they were still taking it seriously.
Acer hasn't stopped caring. Innovation has Code S tonight, so naturally you want the guy to get some sleep. Given that this is the Acer Teamstory Cup, it would look really really bad if Acer didn't care about their own tournament.
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On May 23 2014 02:09 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 02:04 Crot4le wrote: Why Nerchio and not INnoVation? Seriously Acer... it's late and he got Code S tomorrow
Besides that Nercio is pretty much Hasu's nemesis ...
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Nerchio really needs to win this one. Looking way too dangerous for Acer
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On May 23 2014 02:09 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 02:06 Crot4le wrote:On May 23 2014 02:03 Squat wrote: Looks like Acer stopped caring once they qualified.
Which is total bullshit because it's unfair on all the other teams that haven't yet who had to take them on when they were still taking it seriously. Acer hasn't stopped caring. Innovation has Code S tonight, so naturally you want the guy to get some sleep. Given that this is the Acer Teamstory Cup, it would look really really bad if Acer didn't care about their own tournament.
That's a totally fair point actually, I completely forgot about that. I take back what I said.
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Overcommit by Nerchio. Damnit
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Nerchio tefeled his position away
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Come on MMA take the next two games.
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Acer ZvZ is looking kind of iffy atm. Go with MMA here imo.
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Scarlett is the chosen one. Interesting.
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Horrible day for Acer. Team needs to get it together
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On May 23 2014 02:30 SumCookie wrote: Scarlett is the chosen one. Interesting. that's
questionable to say the least
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On May 23 2014 02:30 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 02:30 SumCookie wrote: Scarlett is the chosen one. Interesting. that's questionable to say the least
If Innovation isn't playing, and MMA looking questionable in the past 2 matches, it's not that bad of a choice.
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On May 23 2014 02:30 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 02:30 SumCookie wrote: Scarlett is the chosen one. Interesting. that's questionable to say the least
Agree. Her performance was not convincing at all today.
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Scarlett is weak to strong standard roach play, Vortix is one of the best roach/hydra players outside Korea. I don't know Kev.
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mousesports are one lucky team. They face mYinsanity and only have to take down jjakji once and they face Acer and they face Acer and only have to take down MMA once. I mean, what the hell. I hope to god Scarlett can pull it off otherwise mouz has got a second win handed to them which they really should be losing.
I wish Axiom got the same sort of luck all the other teams around them are getting.
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Mouzs main luck is Inno having code S
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Scarlett forgot speed or did I miss it? nvm its a roach build
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On May 23 2014 02:36 GumBa wrote: Mouzs main luck is Inno having code S
And playing mYinsanity when all their best players were on holiday (Kane, StarDust and jjakji).
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LR should be Acer's coach
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Worst
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mouz can take the first place tonight if they beat Empire-Fnatic. o_o
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Team Acer Domination Tour 4/4: Can the team from Berlin beat the team from Bad Tölz?
Unsuccessful tour. At least the team has a few days before facing iG to really re-orient themselves. Their playoff spot is still solid, but no longer secure.
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On May 23 2014 02:42 Crot4le wrote:And playing mYinsanity when all their best players were on holiday (Kane, StarDust and jjakji).
That is not true, jjakji played and lost.
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On May 23 2014 02:47 GumBa wrote: O my fucking god
STX just slightly more dead than Acer was in that match.
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On May 23 2014 02:44 Bagration wrote: Embarrassing
Quite. All the teams that have already played and lost to a full-strength Acer are going to be feeling pretty aggrieved right now. I'm sure they would have loved to face an Acer team which only fielded one of their Korean aces once. The INnoVation is fair enough but I don't know why they couldn't revive MMA.
I should be celebrating Axiom slaughtering EG today (which they also had to do the hard way unlike Millenium and mYi lol) but this really frustrating as full strength Acer team would have had mouz but instead their closest play-off rivals were given an easy ride.
But hey, at least NewRoSoft are currently up against Millenium, hopefully Welmu can go all the way there.
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On May 23 2014 02:47 SumCookie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 02:42 Crot4le wrote:On May 23 2014 02:36 GumBa wrote: Mouzs main luck is Inno having code S And playing mYinsanity when all their best players were on holiday (Kane, StarDust and jjakji). That is not true, jjakji played and lost.
Yes, but he wasn't revived. It is not too difficult to take out one of these ace players once. Axiom took out jjakji, StarDust and Kane but it wasn't enough when a revived jjakji took the last two games. Axiom also took out MMA and INnoVation but had to face a revived INno who won the next three maps to take the match 5-4. If Axiom had the same ride as mouz had got there is no question that they would have definitely won both matches.
That's an issue with the ATC. I love it to bits because it's so exciting but it really could do with more consistency because some times get an unfair advantage due to sheer coincidence of players not being available on the day. Unfortunately, this season the luck hasn't evened out.
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On May 23 2014 02:48 Crot4le wrote:Quite. All the teams that have already played and lost to a full-strength Acer are going to be feeling pretty aggrieved right now. I'm sure they would have loved to face an Acer team which only fielded one of their Korean aces once. The INnoVation is fair enough but I don't know why they couldn't revive MMA. I should be celebrating Axiom slaughtering EG today (which they also had to do the hard way unlike Millenium and mYi lol) but this really frustrating as full strength Acer team would have had mouz but instead their closest play-off rivals were given an easy ride. But hey, at least NewRoSoft are currently up against Millenium, hopefully Welmu can go all the way there.
It's not that Acer was significantly weakened, since in the past when Innovation was unavailable other players would step up. You would have MMA play twice, and that is usually enough to beat most teams. Today, no one really shined. No one was able to grab more than 1 win, and it was terrible.
I hope the team can become stronger from this loss, as cheesy as it sounds. Better to lose two now then lose two in the playoffs and get eliminated.
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On May 23 2014 02:52 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 02:48 Crot4le wrote:On May 23 2014 02:44 Bagration wrote: Embarrassing Quite. All the teams that have already played and lost to a full-strength Acer are going to be feeling pretty aggrieved right now. I'm sure they would have loved to face an Acer team which only fielded one of their Korean aces once. The INnoVation is fair enough but I don't know why they couldn't revive MMA. I should be celebrating Axiom slaughtering EG today (which they also had to do the hard way unlike Millenium and mYi lol) but this really frustrating as full strength Acer team would have had mouz but instead their closest play-off rivals were given an easy ride. But hey, at least NewRoSoft are currently up against Millenium, hopefully Welmu can go all the way there. It's not that Acer was significantly weakened, since in the past when Innovation was unavailable other players would step up. You would have MMA play twice, and that is usually enough to beat most teams. Today, no one really shined. No one was able to grab more than 1 win, and it was terrible. I hope the team can become stronger from this loss, as cheesy as it sounds. Better to lose two now then lose two in the playoffs and get eliminated.
It totally is that Acer was significantly weakened. INnoVation didn't play at all and MMA only played once because he wasn't even revived.
Don't try to tell me that Bly, Scarlett, MMA, Nerchio, Scarlett is anywhere near as hard as Bly, INnoVation, Scarlett, MMA, INnoVation.
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Acer has lost more matches in a span of 6 hours than it did for all of Season 2.
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What a day!  Anyway, best of luck for INnoVation@GSL and for MMA@WCS.
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That's what I wanted to see, GG mouz!
On May 23 2014 02:51 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 02:47 SumCookie wrote:On May 23 2014 02:42 Crot4le wrote:On May 23 2014 02:36 GumBa wrote: Mouzs main luck is Inno having code S And playing mYinsanity when all their best players were on holiday (Kane, StarDust and jjakji). That is not true, jjakji played and lost. Yes, but he wasn't revived. It is not too difficult to take out one of these ace players once. Axiom took out jjakji, StarDust and Kane but it wasn't enough when a revived jjakji took the last two games. Axiom also took out MMA and INnoVation but had to face a revived INno who won the next three maps to take the match 5-4. If Axiom had the same ride as mouz had got there is no question that they would have definitely won both matches. That's an issue with the ATC. I love it to bits because it's so exciting but it really could do with more consistency because some times get an unfair advantage due to sheer coincidence of players not being available on the day. Unfortunately, this season the luck hasn't evened out. In season 1 all of Axioms matches were postponed to a later date and they got easier line-ups, this time mouz got lucky, that Inno/SD weren't available and Axiom had a bit harder opponents. I think over it larger time period everything does even out.
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Acer
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mouz tops the league! yeees
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On May 23 2014 05:22 Xoronius wrote:That's what I wanted to see, GG mouz! Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 02:51 Crot4le wrote:On May 23 2014 02:47 SumCookie wrote:On May 23 2014 02:42 Crot4le wrote:On May 23 2014 02:36 GumBa wrote: Mouzs main luck is Inno having code S And playing mYinsanity when all their best players were on holiday (Kane, StarDust and jjakji). That is not true, jjakji played and lost. Yes, but he wasn't revived. It is not too difficult to take out one of these ace players once. Axiom took out jjakji, StarDust and Kane but it wasn't enough when a revived jjakji took the last two games. Axiom also took out MMA and INnoVation but had to face a revived INno who won the next three maps to take the match 5-4. If Axiom had the same ride as mouz had got there is no question that they would have definitely won both matches. That's an issue with the ATC. I love it to bits because it's so exciting but it really could do with more consistency because some times get an unfair advantage due to sheer coincidence of players not being available on the day. Unfortunately, this season the luck hasn't evened out. In season 1 all of Axioms matches were postponed to a later date and they got easier line-ups, this time mouz got lucky, that Inno/SD weren't available and Axiom had a bit harder opponents. I think over it larger time period everything does even out.
"a bit".
That's the understatement of the century.
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Anyone got the VODs for MMA vs. Starbuck? I want to see that game again
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On May 23 2014 17:53 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 05:22 Xoronius wrote:That's what I wanted to see, GG mouz! On May 23 2014 02:51 Crot4le wrote:On May 23 2014 02:47 SumCookie wrote:On May 23 2014 02:42 Crot4le wrote:On May 23 2014 02:36 GumBa wrote: Mouzs main luck is Inno having code S And playing mYinsanity when all their best players were on holiday (Kane, StarDust and jjakji). That is not true, jjakji played and lost. Yes, but he wasn't revived. It is not too difficult to take out one of these ace players once. Axiom took out jjakji, StarDust and Kane but it wasn't enough when a revived jjakji took the last two games. Axiom also took out MMA and INnoVation but had to face a revived INno who won the next three maps to take the match 5-4. If Axiom had the same ride as mouz had got there is no question that they would have definitely won both matches. That's an issue with the ATC. I love it to bits because it's so exciting but it really could do with more consistency because some times get an unfair advantage due to sheer coincidence of players not being available on the day. Unfortunately, this season the luck hasn't evened out. In season 1 all of Axioms matches were postponed to a later date and they got easier line-ups, this time mouz got lucky, that Inno/SD weren't available and Axiom had a bit harder opponents. I think over it larger time period everything does even out. "a bit". That's the understatement of the century.  Well, you are talking about 1 player vs mYi (Stardust) and 1 player vs Acer (Inno). I do not count Kane, since Axiom didn't have to face Serral either. On the other hand, Cold-dig had a much weaker line-up vs Axiom (Trimaster/QXC instead of BlinG/SeleCT) and still took 4 maps, maybe Axiom would have lost top Col-Dig, if Col-Dig would have fielded their LU, which they used against mouz. Not likely, but certainly possible. Sure, players can't always attend every clan war, but blaming mouz for not having to face two players, even if things might have gone different if Inno had played, is not neccessary, as this is a situation, every team had working for or against them in some league at some point. Before complaining about that, I'd rather call Mill lucky for getting handed a free-win by EG.
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