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On May 21 2014 02:25 Foreverkul wrote: Was a good game, definitely good control by Harrstem, but how does Terran counter this? :/
Give keyboard and mouse to Polt.
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Austria24417 Posts
On May 21 2014 02:29 Foreverkul wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 02:26 Jimmeh wrote:On May 21 2014 02:25 Foreverkul wrote: Was a good game, definitely good control by Harrstem, but how does Terran counter this? :/ Play perfectly. Protoss just move forward then back and Terran has to play impossibly well?
No, protoss has to do the same. Jjakji honestly got outcontrolled. He got an insane amount of Ghosts sniped by feedback/stalkers/colossus swipes and kept losing vikings for no reason
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On May 21 2014 02:29 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 02:25 Foreverkul wrote: Was a good game, definitely good control by Harrstem, but how does Terran counter this? :/ It's not a single thing, it's a game of inches at that point, a tug of war. There were several points where Jjakji landed huge EMPs on Harstem's army, and could have taken it out. One thing was that in both G2 and G3, Jjakji's economy was a lot weaker. If he had expanded more aggressively, he could have established economic parity and done better.
Not really. Endless zealot runbys make expanding far from home almost impossible while a couple cannons and a single high templar, and endless warpins basically eliminate any threat of terrans returning the favor. PvT lategame has been this way since forever and its broken.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On May 21 2014 02:29 djraphi23 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 02:25 Foreverkul wrote: Was a good game, definitely good control by Harrstem, but how does Terran counter this? :/ Give keyboard and mouse to Polt. That's alright for game one.. but easily countered game 2 by playing as Zerg.
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I don't know if you play Starcraft 2 from time to time but Harstem did not just "move forward and back".
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On May 21 2014 02:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 02:29 Foreverkul wrote:On May 21 2014 02:26 Jimmeh wrote:On May 21 2014 02:25 Foreverkul wrote: Was a good game, definitely good control by Harrstem, but how does Terran counter this? :/ Play perfectly. Protoss just move forward then back and Terran has to play impossibly well? No, protoss has to do the same. Jjakji honestly got outcontrolled. He got an insane amount of Ghosts sniped by feedback/stalkers/colossus swipes and kept losing vikings for no reason Terrans always lose a lot of ghosts, ghosts are slow
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On May 21 2014 02:29 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 02:25 Foreverkul wrote: Was a good game, definitely good control by Harrstem, but how does Terran counter this? :/ It's not a single thing, it's a game of inches at that point, a tug of war. There were several points where Jjakji landed huge EMPs on Harstem's army, and could have taken it out. One thing was that in both G2 and G3, Jjakji's economy was a lot weaker. If he had expanded more aggressively, he could have established economic parity and done better. No he couldn't engage because he just runs away and Terran can't run through storms. And he can't expand because like you saw toss just warps DT/Zealots. Still no way for Terran to answer.
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On May 21 2014 02:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 02:24 BaneRiders wrote:I was constantly harassed by the wife during the last map, very happy to see the outcome though! Well done Harstem!  Women killing esports
On the flip side, dinner is soon ready. I know, I was the probe that had to mine all the minerals and warp in shit sort out potatoes, minced meat, peppers, cutlery...
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On May 21 2014 02:33 Foreverkul wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 02:29 Bagration wrote:On May 21 2014 02:25 Foreverkul wrote: Was a good game, definitely good control by Harrstem, but how does Terran counter this? :/ It's not a single thing, it's a game of inches at that point, a tug of war. There were several points where Jjakji landed huge EMPs on Harstem's army, and could have taken it out. One thing was that in both G2 and G3, Jjakji's economy was a lot weaker. If he had expanded more aggressively, he could have established economic parity and done better. No he couldn't engage because he just runs away and Terran can't run through storms. And he can't expand because like you saw toss just warps DT/Zealots. Still no way for Terran to answer.
So basically it was a rhetorical question mark.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Well, this is great for Bunny
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On May 21 2014 02:35 Bagration wrote: Well, this is great for Bunny
Indeed!!
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On May 21 2014 02:32 Jono7272 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 02:29 djraphi23 wrote:On May 21 2014 02:25 Foreverkul wrote: Was a good game, definitely good control by Harrstem, but how does Terran counter this? :/ Give keyboard and mouse to Polt. That's alright for game one.. but easily countered game 2 by playing as Zerg.
Damn ...
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Haha YoDa lost all his skill when he won IEM.
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On May 21 2014 02:33 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 02:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On May 21 2014 02:24 BaneRiders wrote:I was constantly harassed by the wife during the last map, very happy to see the outcome though! Well done Harstem!  Women killing esports On the flip side, dinner is soon ready. I know, I was the probe that had to mine all the minerals and warp in shit sort out potatoes, minced meat, peppers, cutlery...  A fair trade 
Bunny is looking strong! Foreigner powerrrr
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On May 21 2014 02:34 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 02:33 Foreverkul wrote:On May 21 2014 02:29 Bagration wrote:On May 21 2014 02:25 Foreverkul wrote: Was a good game, definitely good control by Harrstem, but how does Terran counter this? :/ It's not a single thing, it's a game of inches at that point, a tug of war. There were several points where Jjakji landed huge EMPs on Harstem's army, and could have taken it out. One thing was that in both G2 and G3, Jjakji's economy was a lot weaker. If he had expanded more aggressively, he could have established economic parity and done better. No he couldn't engage because he just runs away and Terran can't run through storms. And he can't expand because like you saw toss just warps DT/Zealots. Still no way for Terran to answer. So basically it was a rhetorical question mark. It's not, just the answer he gave wasn't a solution. In that game I almost thought that having tanks on high ground would work but stalker a would just blink kill them. I just don't know how a Terran could ever win that unless they godlike and can triple drop like maru or something
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On May 21 2014 02:33 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 02:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On May 21 2014 02:24 BaneRiders wrote:I was constantly harassed by the wife during the last map, very happy to see the outcome though! Well done Harstem!  Women killing esports On the flip side, dinner is soon ready. I know, I was the probe that had to mine all the minerals and warp in shit sort out potatoes, minced meat, peppers, cutlery...  Yeah, but if you do that the templars will get good storms regardless and protoss gets so far ahead.
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Sigh I lost the conclusion of Harstem Vs Jjakji... happy to be proven wrong!
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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what happened to the foreigners
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