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djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
May 20 2014 17:29 GMT
#201
On May 21 2014 02:25 Foreverkul wrote:
Was a good game, definitely good control by Harrstem, but how does Terran counter this? :/


Give keyboard and mouse to Polt.
Polt | Bomber | MMA | Taeja | Maru | TY | Byun | Innovation
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 20 2014 17:31 GMT
#202
On May 21 2014 02:29 Foreverkul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 02:26 Jimmeh wrote:
On May 21 2014 02:25 Foreverkul wrote:
Was a good game, definitely good control by Harrstem, but how does Terran counter this? :/


Play perfectly.

Protoss just move forward then back and Terran has to play impossibly well?


No, protoss has to do the same. Jjakji honestly got outcontrolled. He got an insane amount of Ghosts sniped by feedback/stalkers/colossus swipes and kept losing vikings for no reason
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johnbongham
Profile Joined April 2014
451 Posts
May 20 2014 17:31 GMT
#203
On May 21 2014 02:29 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 02:25 Foreverkul wrote:
Was a good game, definitely good control by Harrstem, but how does Terran counter this? :/


It's not a single thing, it's a game of inches at that point, a tug of war. There were several points where Jjakji landed huge EMPs on Harstem's army, and could have taken it out.

One thing was that in both G2 and G3, Jjakji's economy was a lot weaker. If he had expanded more aggressively, he could have established economic parity and done better.



Not really. Endless zealot runbys make expanding far from home almost impossible while a couple cannons and a single high templar, and endless warpins basically eliminate any threat of terrans returning the favor. PvT lategame has been this way since forever and its broken.

User was temp banned for this post.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
May 20 2014 17:32 GMT
#204
On May 21 2014 02:29 djraphi23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 02:25 Foreverkul wrote:
Was a good game, definitely good control by Harrstem, but how does Terran counter this? :/


Give keyboard and mouse to Polt.

That's alright for game one.. but easily countered game 2 by playing as Zerg.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
SpawnMoarOverlords
Profile Joined April 2014
400 Posts
May 20 2014 17:32 GMT
#205
I don't know if you play Starcraft 2 from time to time but Harstem did not just "move forward and back".
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
May 20 2014 17:33 GMT
#206
On May 21 2014 02:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 02:29 Foreverkul wrote:
On May 21 2014 02:26 Jimmeh wrote:
On May 21 2014 02:25 Foreverkul wrote:
Was a good game, definitely good control by Harrstem, but how does Terran counter this? :/


Play perfectly.

Protoss just move forward then back and Terran has to play impossibly well?


No, protoss has to do the same. Jjakji honestly got outcontrolled. He got an insane amount of Ghosts sniped by feedback/stalkers/colossus swipes and kept losing vikings for no reason

Terrans always lose a lot of ghosts, ghosts are slow
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
May 20 2014 17:33 GMT
#207
On May 21 2014 02:29 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 02:25 Foreverkul wrote:
Was a good game, definitely good control by Harrstem, but how does Terran counter this? :/


It's not a single thing, it's a game of inches at that point, a tug of war. There were several points where Jjakji landed huge EMPs on Harstem's army, and could have taken it out.

One thing was that in both G2 and G3, Jjakji's economy was a lot weaker. If he had expanded more aggressively, he could have established economic parity and done better.

No he couldn't engage because he just runs away and Terran can't run through storms.
And he can't expand because like you saw toss just warps DT/Zealots.
Still no way for Terran to answer.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
May 20 2014 17:33 GMT
#208
On May 21 2014 02:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 02:24 BaneRiders wrote:
I was constantly harassed by the wife during the last map, very happy to see the outcome though! Well done Harstem!

Women killing esports


On the flip side, dinner is soon ready. I know, I was the probe that had to mine all the minerals and warp in shit sort out potatoes, minced meat, peppers, cutlery...
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12535 Posts
May 20 2014 17:34 GMT
#209
On May 21 2014 02:33 Foreverkul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 02:29 Bagration wrote:
On May 21 2014 02:25 Foreverkul wrote:
Was a good game, definitely good control by Harrstem, but how does Terran counter this? :/


It's not a single thing, it's a game of inches at that point, a tug of war. There were several points where Jjakji landed huge EMPs on Harstem's army, and could have taken it out.

One thing was that in both G2 and G3, Jjakji's economy was a lot weaker. If he had expanded more aggressively, he could have established economic parity and done better.

No he couldn't engage because he just runs away and Terran can't run through storms.
And he can't expand because like you saw toss just warps DT/Zealots.
Still no way for Terran to answer.


So basically it was a rhetorical question mark.
No will to live, no wish to die
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 20 2014 17:35 GMT
#210
Yea, Yoda still sucks.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 20 2014 17:35 GMT
#211
Well, this is great for Bunny
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
May 20 2014 17:35 GMT
#212
On May 21 2014 02:35 Bagration wrote:
Well, this is great for Bunny


Indeed!!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 17:36:00
May 20 2014 17:35 GMT
#213
On May 21 2014 02:32 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 02:29 djraphi23 wrote:
On May 21 2014 02:25 Foreverkul wrote:
Was a good game, definitely good control by Harrstem, but how does Terran counter this? :/


Give keyboard and mouse to Polt.

That's alright for game one.. but easily countered game 2 by playing as Zerg.


Damn ...
Polt | Bomber | MMA | Taeja | Maru | TY | Byun | Innovation
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
May 20 2014 17:36 GMT
#214
Haha YoDa lost all his skill when he won IEM.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 20 2014 17:37 GMT
#215
On May 21 2014 02:33 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 02:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On May 21 2014 02:24 BaneRiders wrote:
I was constantly harassed by the wife during the last map, very happy to see the outcome though! Well done Harstem!

Women killing esports


On the flip side, dinner is soon ready. I know, I was the probe that had to mine all the minerals and warp in shit sort out potatoes, minced meat, peppers, cutlery...

A fair trade

Bunny is looking strong! Foreigner powerrrr
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Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
May 20 2014 17:37 GMT
#216
On May 21 2014 02:34 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 02:33 Foreverkul wrote:
On May 21 2014 02:29 Bagration wrote:
On May 21 2014 02:25 Foreverkul wrote:
Was a good game, definitely good control by Harrstem, but how does Terran counter this? :/


It's not a single thing, it's a game of inches at that point, a tug of war. There were several points where Jjakji landed huge EMPs on Harstem's army, and could have taken it out.

One thing was that in both G2 and G3, Jjakji's economy was a lot weaker. If he had expanded more aggressively, he could have established economic parity and done better.

No he couldn't engage because he just runs away and Terran can't run through storms.
And he can't expand because like you saw toss just warps DT/Zealots.
Still no way for Terran to answer.


So basically it was a rhetorical question mark.

It's not, just the answer he gave wasn't a solution. In that game I almost thought that having tanks on high ground would work but stalker a would just blink kill them. I just don't know how a Terran could ever win that unless they godlike and can triple drop like maru or something
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
May 20 2014 17:37 GMT
#217
On May 21 2014 02:33 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 02:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On May 21 2014 02:24 BaneRiders wrote:
I was constantly harassed by the wife during the last map, very happy to see the outcome though! Well done Harstem!

Women killing esports


On the flip side, dinner is soon ready. I know, I was the probe that had to mine all the minerals and warp in shit sort out potatoes, minced meat, peppers, cutlery...

Yeah, but if you do that the templars will get good storms regardless and protoss gets so far ahead.
why even
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
May 20 2014 17:38 GMT
#218
Sigh I lost the conclusion of Harstem Vs Jjakji... happy to be proven wrong!
Your Opinion has been counted. Only 3 more Opinions needed for a reddit thread.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 20 2014 17:38 GMT
#219
The fuck YoDa
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
May 20 2014 17:39 GMT
#220
what happened to the foreigners
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