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DrunkeN.
United States406 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:07 dddoushio wrote: yeah he's totally awesome at sitting on his ass for 10 minutes massing a single unit and then just doing nothing until he wins so skillful Watch his stream First Person SHs games takes skill. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:09 FiWiFaKi wrote: Listen guys! It's not the SH that are too powerful. It's spore crawlers... They buffed spore crawlers long ago because every ZvZ was muta vs muta... Now they just kill everything. And considering the only way you can beat SH is with air, the Viper + Spore Crawler combo makes it unbeatable. That combo shuts down all air. That's the issue, not the SH themselves. I actually think you have a point. Mutas would be a good way to combat this if it wasn't for the unbelievable strength of spores vs mutas as demonstrated by Byul. That being said, the change decreased the number of muta vs muta ZvZs and makes my life easier when defending against them so i'm not sure what to change | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
wanted to hit fullscreen to read and instead hit pop out | ||
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Daeracon
Sweden199 Posts
Yes you can play Swarmhost smarter than another player...but the design of the unit is not very appealing in my eyes. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:10 Makro wrote: Stephano will bring Naniwa back! | ||
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Nauseam
Sweden191 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:04 oogieogie wrote: wait till we get a game where the zerg has a massive advantage, and then terran or protoss just turtles. LOL. What are you talking about? Protoss turtles all the time and terrans do from time to time as well. Neither P or T has any free units so P or T turtling will NEVER drag on for hours and hours. Such a stalemate situation can only happen with free units. Or do you actually believe that if Z has massive advantage against P and then the P players turtles as much as he can, the game will drag on for hours? Jeez. These zerg fanboys. | ||
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:06 Qwerty85 wrote: I would think that by now it is obvious that Swarmhost is the unit that is causing problems in all three matchups. Turtling is the result of not being able to move out with ground army and the inability to start the game straight away with sky army. It just doesn't work that way. There was a game on some fucking desert map i cant remember with Idra vs some random protoss who went sky toss, never moved out, and just sat on 3 bases with skytoss. You can say "oh hes doing that just to be a dick", but zergs only counter to that really for trading is swarm hosts. as much of a shitty design or whatever it is..we need swarm hosts. Also Turtling can be the result of like what we just had with stephano. He got behind..went swarm hosts so he can stay in the game and win it. Protoss starting to lose > go sky toss while turtling > have a chance at winning because nerfing SH just makes it much more effective. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:10 Makro wrote: https://twitter.com/NaNiwaSC2/status/463032268517543937 The irony is strong in this one! | ||
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cheekymonkey
France1387 Posts
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FrogOfWar
Germany1406 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:07 dddoushio wrote: yeah he's totally awesome at sitting on his ass for 10 minutes massing a single unit and then just doing nothing until he wins so skillful You think you could beat Jaedong doing this? | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
nah, please don't | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:10 DrunkeN. wrote: Watch his stream First Person SHs games takes skill. I'll take your word for it, because I'm sure as hell not gonna watch it haha | ||
Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:10 Makro wrote: https://twitter.com/NaNiwaSC2/status/463032268517543937 trolling about Stephanos trolly playstyle? or genuine?? omg | ||
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Clazziquai10
Singapore1949 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:10 Makro wrote: https://twitter.com/NaNiwaSC2/status/463032268517543937 Shots fired | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:10 Yorkie wrote: I actually think you have a point. Mutas would be a good way to combat this if it wasn't for the unbelievable strength of spores vs mutas as demonstrated by Byul. That being said, the change decreased the number of muta vs muta ZvZs and makes my life easier when defending against them so i'm not sure what to change Slightly weaken sporecrawlers again? Find some middleground from where it was to 3 shotting mutas. | ||
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Muffloe
Sweden6061 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:10 Makro wrote: https://twitter.com/NaNiwaSC2/status/463032268517543937 LoL Nani | ||
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b0rt_
Norway931 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:11 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: trolling about Stephanos trolly playstyle? or genuine?? omg trolling | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
didn't stephano exactly what naniwa said he could do? "come back at any moment and be the best foreigner" | ||
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dddoushio
81 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:09 annedeman wrote: as much as i dislike the swarmhost, i dont feel like this is an accurate discription of stephano's play. yeah, I guess he also lost like 4 hatcheries before he realized he didn't actually have to expand anymore | ||
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