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On May 05 2014 04:05 Symbioth wrote: Stephano is so good at this and it's kinda hilarious and awesome at the same time. At least to me :D
yeah he's totally awesome at sitting on his ass for 10 minutes massing a single unit and then just doing nothing until he wins
so skillful
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On May 05 2014 04:05 DamnCats wrote: That actually was not that bad of a game. That said, the fact that SH/spore/viper seems to beat anything ZvZ makes me feel.... pretty sad.
It was only not bad because JD refused to play the same style.
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On May 05 2014 04:06 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:03 Incognoto wrote: Why would anyone hate a player for doing what it takes to win a game... ? Yeah really, Stephano was far behind and eventually won the game by playing this way better than Jaedong. You could blame him yesterday because he was ahead but not today. It's not about the player it's about the game imo. SH/static D just beats everything except SH/Static D which it ties with.
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If Stephano wins this it will be the most epic thing I've ever seen in Starcraft.
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When Naniwa won he didn't murder the game in the process :/
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Its amazing how this lr exploded with the swarm hosts
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On May 05 2014 04:07 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:06 stuchiu wrote:On May 05 2014 04:00 Teoita wrote:On May 05 2014 03:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 05 2014 03:57 Teoita wrote:On May 05 2014 03:57 Lorning wrote:On May 05 2014 03:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 05 2014 03:56 Teoita wrote: I want this to become standard in every zvz. I hate zergs that much. And these LR people thought I was bad You are, satan What does that make me then? edit: lol Stuchiu If I'm Sauron then you're Morgoth. It's the perfect comparison. Deal. Wait, what does that make me? smeagol
Could have been worse. Could have been frodo.
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On May 05 2014 04:06 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:04 oogieogie wrote:On May 05 2014 04:04 Nauseam wrote: This is just horrible to watch.
But I actually think it's a good thing Stephano is doing this in front of so many viewers and Blizzards eyes just to show just how horribly broken the design of zerg and the concept of free units is in a RTS. wait till we get a game where the zerg has a massive advantage, and then terran or protoss just turtles. At least terran or protoss loses actual units from time to time while turtling. i think it's hilarious we've reached a point in sc2 where people complain about Zerg turtling more than Protoss :D
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This was like mech TvT during the gom days. Except even slower and with less action without the hellion drops
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Listen guys!
It's not the SH that are too powerful. It's spore crawlers... They buffed spore crawlers long ago because every ZvZ was muta vs muta... Now they just kill everything. And considering the only way you can beat SH is with air, the Viper + Spore Crawler combo makes it unbeatable. That combo shuts down all air.
That's the issue, not the SH themselves.
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Well, thank you David Kim for fixing Mech! You just did it for the wrong race!!!
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On May 05 2014 04:06 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:03 oogieogie wrote:On May 05 2014 04:03 Qwerty85 wrote:On May 05 2014 04:02 Yorkie wrote: Stephano does this all the time, is retired, and he will get invited to even more tournaments in the future. God this is frustrating As long as Blizzard is watching Swarmhost in action, maybe there will be something good that comes from it. nothing good can happen from it because then we will have turtle terran and turtle protoss vs zerg if they start to lose so the zerg gets fucked. I would think that by now it is obvious that Swarmhost is the unit that is causing problems in all three matchups. Turtling is the result of not being able to move out with ground army and the inability to start the game straight away with sky army. It just doesn't work that way.
In ZvZ the Swarmhost is the problem. In ZvT/ZvP Zerg can't win a late game without Swarmhosts, and they're a reaction to turtling Mech Terrans/Protoss most of the time.
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On May 05 2014 04:04 jaebigdong wrote: did jaedong really just lose a game to a foreigner who is retired and only plays in his spare time?
swarm hosts to this to people :D
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So basically this: If game goes to middle and late game Stephano wins since he seems to understand swarmhosts better. If JD manages to keep the game at low resources/early game JD has a higher chance of winning.
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On May 05 2014 04:09 FiWiFaKi wrote: Listen guys!
It's not the SH that are too powerful. It's spore crawlers... They buffed spore crawlers long ago because every ZvZ was muta vs muta... Now they just kill everything. And considering the only way you can beat SH is with air, the Viper + Spore Crawler combo makes it unbeatable. That combo shuts down all air.
That's the issue, not the SH themselves.
LISTEN
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On May 05 2014 04:09 FiWiFaKi wrote: Listen guys!
It's not the SH that are too powerful. It's spore crawlers... They buffed spore crawlers long ago because every ZvZ was muta vs muta... Now they just kill everything. And considering the only way you can beat SH is with air, the Viper + Spore Crawler combo makes it unbeatable. That combo shuts down all air.
That's the issue, not the SH themselves.
Valid point vor ZvZ.
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On May 05 2014 04:07 dddoushio wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:05 Symbioth wrote: Stephano is so good at this and it's kinda hilarious and awesome at the same time. At least to me :D yeah he's totally awesome at sitting on his ass for 10 minutes massing a single unit and then just doing nothing until he wins so skillful as much as i dislike the swarmhost, i dont feel like this is an accurate discription of stephano's play.
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I don't know if I want to see that.
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On May 05 2014 04:09 FiWiFaKi wrote: Listen guys!
It's not the SH that are too powerful. It's spore crawlers... They buffed spore crawlers long ago because every ZvZ was muta vs muta... Now they just kill everything. And considering the only way you can beat SH is with air, the Viper + Spore Crawler combo makes it unbeatable. That combo shuts down all air.
That's the issue, not the SH themselves.
That's an interesting thought. #theorycraft
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