[Code S] Ro8 Day 2 Season 1 2014 - Page 96

On March 22 2014 02:15 juvenal wrote:

what's the last time it happened?

On March 22 2014 05:05 Zealously wrote:


Best I can do is this

http://www.reddit.com/r/spoilerfreesc

On April 05 2013 18:52 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Man, that game was basically over as soon as MVP ran in with those Hellions. I can't even remember the last time I watched a game where that build was used to kill a bunch of drones.

Even if he had killed every single Drone at that base, after losing all those Hellions, Scarlett still could have done that same Baneling attack and then followed it with a round of Drones to minimize the damage. However, if he saves the Hellions to poke, posture and clean up creep, then he can safely take a third and transition into his mid-game composition and be a great spot.

Really disappointing that MVP, of all people, would lose that way. He used to be the Georges St-Pierre of StarCraft - low risk, high skill.

That game made me sad.

On March 21 2014 21:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:


First of all that can't be compared, second of all it was totally uncalled for.

Protoss phoenix/army micro can't be compared to any other type of unit control in the game because you constantly need to keep them moving or they die and then your whole strategy falls apart. That's not what you do when you split. When you split terran units you want to move back as few units as possible to keep them from taking damage while as many units as possible fire safely at once without taking damage or being so close that they could take damage the next second.
Completely different skillset.

Phoenix micro is constant movement spam. Against corruptors (or with no range phoenix vs mutas) it's especially tough because you have to do it perfectly otherwise it's not effective. If you do it perfectly you outrange both, if you get too close you take damage and lose phoenixes, if you get too far away you're not doing damage. The line is extremely thin. Being able to walk that thin line while still macroing and controlling the rest of your army/running probes if necessary, etc. without losing phoenixes is the skillset you need for phoenix vs muta.

On March 22 2014 10:18 ArTiFaKs wrote:


If you are watching the VODs from twitch, just click "More Videos" and click the "Past Broadcasts" tab next to the videos tab, and hit "load more videos" and it's usually after all the segmented videos of each game there is one long video of the whole broadcast. That's what I do, anyway and it's spoiler free. Just throwing that out there, you'll still have to skip inbetween the games during the breaks and stuff but at least it's 1 continuous video and spoiler free!

On March 22 2014 04:31 Zealously wrote:


I don't know, I think Rain vs Life will be a pretty sick finals

On March 22 2014 17:12 Kitaen wrote:


hahaha, yeah only that any terran army needs babysitting like this all the time, WOOAAH PHOENIX HARD TO MICRO,
go cry protoss, get serious
cba with bias like this from an offical wirter


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On March 22 2014 16:32 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Here is a post of mine from nearly a year ago:



As soon as Maru took his hellions into Life's base, I knew he had lost. Suiciding all your hellions just does not work. If they die, you die. You lose map control, scouting and the ability to even defend a counter attack and you cannot rebuild your army fast enough to keep up. Terran is not Zerg and hellions are not zerglings. In the midgame, a hellion runby is not harassment, it is damn near, if not completely, an all-in. You have to either kill an inordinate number of drones (we're talking like 30) or the Zerg just has to completely mishandle the follow up. I mean, 14 drones is 700 minerals and Zerg can remake that many all in one go. Maru lost more than that in resources (minerals and supply) in the attack and it takes far, far longer for him to rebuild. Again, he kills every single drone in that base, but loses his hellions, and the game ends in the exact same way.

Pros should not be losing games like this, especially not Maru, and casters should really recognize it as a huge blunder. Am I wrong? Is there something I am not seeing? Every time I see a Terran player try that, they immediately get counter attacked with ling/bane and never hold. It is just...I am a platinum scrub and I realized this when SlayerS was still a team. I feel like I am taking crazy pills or something.

On March 22 2014 21:31 cheekymonkey wrote:
god maru plays so exceptionally well, funny how he manages to continually stim his marines coming out of the barracks while fighting

i think still blizz has some balancing to do, maru is by far a superior player to i'd say to all other players currently in gsl.

On March 22 2014 21:56 Foxxan wrote:

I suggest to write this post in the "designated balance discussion thread" so people see it.

On March 22 2014 16:32 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Here is a post of mine from nearly a year ago:



As soon as Maru took his hellions into Life's base, I knew he had lost. Suiciding all your hellions just does not work. If they die, you die. You lose map control, scouting and the ability to even defend a counter attack and you cannot rebuild your army fast enough to keep up. Terran is not Zerg and hellions are not zerglings. In the midgame, a hellion runby is not harassment, it is damn near, if not completely, an all-in. You have to either kill an inordinate number of drones (we're talking like 30) or the Zerg just has to completely mishandle the follow up. I mean, 14 drones is 700 minerals and Zerg can remake that many all in one go. Maru lost more than that in resources (minerals and supply) in the attack and it takes far, far longer for him to rebuild. Again, he kills every single drone in that base, but loses his hellions, and the game ends in the exact same way.

Pros should not be losing games like this, especially not Maru, and casters should really recognize it as a huge blunder. Am I wrong? Is there something I am not seeing? Every time I see a Terran player try that, they immediately get counter attacked with ling/bane and never hold. It is just...I am a platinum scrub and I realized this when SlayerS was still a team. I feel like I am taking crazy pills or something.