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TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
March 21 2014 13:53 GMT
#1861
On March 19 2014 21:42 TheAnarchy wrote:
Both series are going to be pretty even. Life played pretty bad against Taeja and also lost against Fantasy. On the other hand Maru TvZ is by far his weakest match. I think Life is going to take the series 3-2.
Parting and soO will be very cheesy. I think soO will win he is very good stoping cheeses and knows the play style of Parting
I think it will be a 3-1 por 3-2



All the 4 series correct and the results to
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 21 2014 14:01 GMT
#1862
Fell asleep after game 2 of Parting v soO (Soultrain... more like SNOOZE TRAIN, RIGHT?) - woke up to PvZ finals... I can deal with this!
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 21 2014 14:02 GMT
#1863
On March 21 2014 22:25 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 22:21 WigglingSquid wrote:
On March 21 2014 22:18 Zealously wrote:
Congratulations on making another GSL finals, Life

Whenever someone cheers for Life, soO becomes stronger.

He's not a ZvZ master though

Tell that to the last zerg soO met in the ro4
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
March 21 2014 14:23 GMT
#1864
Fuck yah non-mirror finals!

Rooting for Soo and Rain, with Soo to take it all. Hipster pick I know.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
March 21 2014 14:28 GMT
#1865
On March 21 2014 23:02 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 22:25 Zealously wrote:
On March 21 2014 22:21 WigglingSquid wrote:
On March 21 2014 22:18 Zealously wrote:
Congratulations on making another GSL finals, Life

Whenever someone cheers for Life, soO becomes stronger.

He's not a ZvZ master though

Tell that to the last zerg soO met in the ro4


Soulkey has always been a ZvZ scrub...
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 21 2014 14:29 GMT
#1866
On March 21 2014 23:02 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 22:25 Zealously wrote:
On March 21 2014 22:21 WigglingSquid wrote:
On March 21 2014 22:18 Zealously wrote:
Congratulations on making another GSL finals, Life

Whenever someone cheers for Life, soO becomes stronger.

He's not a ZvZ master though

Tell that to the last zerg soO met in the ro4


To be honest, Soulkey was falling off in ZvZ even before he went up against soO. I think he lost to Sleep and barely won the re-match (maybe also another match against DRG?) and had lost 0-2 to Samsung's Shine before that. Life, on the other hand, is on a monstrous streak in ZvZ.
AdministratorBreak the chains
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
March 21 2014 14:30 GMT
#1867
Another finals for soO
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
March 21 2014 14:46 GMT
#1868
How disappointing to see Maru knocked out. Would have made for such a great story if he managed to win, despite being the only Terran.

Oh well, hopefully Life can win the finals now.
Flash | Mvp
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 21 2014 14:48 GMT
#1869
I think either Rain or Life will take it. The others don't have that "champion factor".
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
March 21 2014 15:09 GMT
#1870
Terran hope... T.T Why?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 21 2014 15:10 GMT
#1871
On March 22 2014 00:09 Holdenintherye wrote:
Terran hope... T.T Why?


You win some, you lose some, that's life.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
March 21 2014 15:18 GMT
#1872
On March 22 2014 00:10 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 00:09 Holdenintherye wrote:
Terran hope... T.T Why?


You win some, you lose some, that's life.



Ahhh I see what you did there ;]
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OrChard
Profile Joined February 2011
Hong Kong1119 Posts
March 21 2014 15:23 GMT
#1873
Rain and Zest fighting!
Protosser
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
March 21 2014 15:24 GMT
#1874
On March 21 2014 21:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 21:37 Rollora wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:33 Alhoon wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:27 SC2Toastie wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:23 Alhoon wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:17 Musicus wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:03 Alhoon wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Parting needed more of this

[image loading]

It takes a special kind of idiot to not split your army against storms or archons. For those saying that's hard, try microing phoenix against them and come back saying splitting is hard.


you don't even need to split, you just don't have to fly around doing nothing while getting stormed, the mutas could've just attacked the HTs or just fly out of range, just do anything ^^

Then, what is the counter for ling muta corruptor? If storms and archons are out of the question, what's left? Void Rays I feel are completely useless, you can't mass them fast enough and they're useless vs. more muta heavy composition, even en masse. Phoenix with range maybe in theory but seeing even Parting, one of the best players in the world, can't micro them good enough, I don't think anyone can. Mass Stalker is a no-go due to lings.

Sick Phoenix microcombined with the zoning of Archons and Storm.

I don't think I've ever seen that pulled off on GSL level, even more so if you consider P has to macro during all that. If I see it pulled off in the finals, that'd be the sickest thing ever.

well microing(splitting, emping, attacking from different angles etc etc), mutlitasking (harass meanwhile, expand or whatever) and macro behind all that is something that terran has to do since the early WOL days, so it cant be that hard, saying microing one type of unit and maybe add a storm or two, is really easy compared to what T needs to do to win, so pls stop saying it is something hard to do, you are just not used to it


First of all that can't be compared, second of all it was totally uncalled for.

Protoss phoenix/army micro can't be compared to any other type of unit control in the game because you constantly need to keep them moving or they die and then your whole strategy falls apart. That's not what you do when you split. When you split terran units you want to move back as few units as possible to keep them from taking damage while as many units as possible fire safely at once without taking damage or being so close that they could take damage the next second.
Completely different skillset.

Phoenix micro is constant movement spam. Against corruptors (or with no range phoenix vs mutas) it's especially tough because you have to do it perfectly otherwise it's not effective. If you do it perfectly you outrange both, if you get too close you take damage and lose phoenixes, if you get too far away you're not doing damage. The line is extremely thin. Being able to walk that thin line while still macroing and controlling the rest of your army/running probes if necessary, etc. without losing phoenixes is the skillset you need for phoenix vs muta.

ok Olli thx for pointing that out to me
Fhiz
Profile Joined October 2013
361 Posts
March 21 2014 15:33 GMT
#1875
How were the maru vs life games, so i know what i missed when i overslept and that there is no way for me to watch them because im not paying however many dollars for pvp
girls generation make u feel da heat
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 21 2014 15:38 GMT
#1876
On March 22 2014 00:33 Fhiz wrote:
How were the maru vs life games, so i know what i missed when i overslept and that there is no way for me to watch them because im not paying however many dollars for pvp

Really bad for a GSL ro8
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 21 2014 15:51 GMT
#1877
Parting wtf why but Life the GOD! I think soO is a much better matchup for him anyway.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
March 21 2014 15:54 GMT
#1878
On March 21 2014 21:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 21:37 Rollora wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:33 Alhoon wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:27 SC2Toastie wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:23 Alhoon wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:17 Musicus wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:03 Alhoon wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Parting needed more of this

[image loading]

It takes a special kind of idiot to not split your army against storms or archons. For those saying that's hard, try microing phoenix against them and come back saying splitting is hard.


you don't even need to split, you just don't have to fly around doing nothing while getting stormed, the mutas could've just attacked the HTs or just fly out of range, just do anything ^^

Then, what is the counter for ling muta corruptor? If storms and archons are out of the question, what's left? Void Rays I feel are completely useless, you can't mass them fast enough and they're useless vs. more muta heavy composition, even en masse. Phoenix with range maybe in theory but seeing even Parting, one of the best players in the world, can't micro them good enough, I don't think anyone can. Mass Stalker is a no-go due to lings.

Sick Phoenix microcombined with the zoning of Archons and Storm.

I don't think I've ever seen that pulled off on GSL level, even more so if you consider P has to macro during all that. If I see it pulled off in the finals, that'd be the sickest thing ever.

well microing(splitting, emping, attacking from different angles etc etc), mutlitasking (harass meanwhile, expand or whatever) and macro behind all that is something that terran has to do since the early WOL days, so it cant be that hard, saying microing one type of unit and maybe add a storm or two, is really easy compared to what T needs to do to win, so pls stop saying it is something hard to do, you are just not used to it


First of all that can't be compared, second of all it was totally uncalled for.

Protoss phoenix/army micro can't be compared to any other type of unit control in the game because you constantly need to keep them moving or they die and then your whole strategy falls apart. That's not what you do when you split. When you split terran units you want to move back as few units as possible to keep them from taking damage while as many units as possible fire safely at once without taking damage or being so close that they could take damage the next second.
Completely different skillset.

Phoenix micro is constant movement spam. Against corruptors (or with no range phoenix vs mutas) it's especially tough because you have to do it perfectly otherwise it's not effective. If you do it perfectly you outrange both, if you get too close you take damage and lose phoenixes, if you get too far away you're not doing damage. The line is extremely thin. Being able to walk that thin line while still macroing and controlling the rest of your army/running probes if necessary, etc. without losing phoenixes is the skillset you need for phoenix vs muta.

High skill ceilings <3
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 21 2014 16:01 GMT
#1879
On March 21 2014 21:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 21:37 Rollora wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:33 Alhoon wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:27 SC2Toastie wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:23 Alhoon wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:17 Musicus wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:03 Alhoon wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Parting needed more of this

[image loading]

It takes a special kind of idiot to not split your army against storms or archons. For those saying that's hard, try microing phoenix against them and come back saying splitting is hard.


you don't even need to split, you just don't have to fly around doing nothing while getting stormed, the mutas could've just attacked the HTs or just fly out of range, just do anything ^^

Then, what is the counter for ling muta corruptor? If storms and archons are out of the question, what's left? Void Rays I feel are completely useless, you can't mass them fast enough and they're useless vs. more muta heavy composition, even en masse. Phoenix with range maybe in theory but seeing even Parting, one of the best players in the world, can't micro them good enough, I don't think anyone can. Mass Stalker is a no-go due to lings.

Sick Phoenix microcombined with the zoning of Archons and Storm.

I don't think I've ever seen that pulled off on GSL level, even more so if you consider P has to macro during all that. If I see it pulled off in the finals, that'd be the sickest thing ever.

well microing(splitting, emping, attacking from different angles etc etc), mutlitasking (harass meanwhile, expand or whatever) and macro behind all that is something that terran has to do since the early WOL days, so it cant be that hard, saying microing one type of unit and maybe add a storm or two, is really easy compared to what T needs to do to win, so pls stop saying it is something hard to do, you are just not used to it


First of all that can't be compared, second of all it was totally uncalled for.

Protoss phoenix/army micro can't be compared to any other type of unit control in the game because you constantly need to keep them moving or they die and then your whole strategy falls apart. That's not what you do when you split. When you split terran units you want to move back as few units as possible to keep them from taking damage while as many units as possible fire safely at once without taking damage or being so close that they could take damage the next second.
Completely different skillset.

Phoenix micro is constant movement spam. Against corruptors (or with no range phoenix vs mutas) it's especially tough because you have to do it perfectly otherwise it's not effective. If you do it perfectly you outrange both, if you get too close you take damage and lose phoenixes, if you get too far away you're not doing damage. The line is extremely thin. Being able to walk that thin line while still macroing and controlling the rest of your army/running probes if necessary, etc. without losing phoenixes is the skillset you need for phoenix vs muta.

I'm fine as long as we agree that Zerg doesn't really need any kind of micro.
Huhuhuh.
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 16:31:14
March 21 2014 16:30 GMT
#1880
On March 21 2014 23:46 Ctesias wrote:
How disappointing to see Maru knocked out. Would have made for such a great story if he managed to win, despite being the only Terran.

Oh well, hopefully Life can win the finals now.


While I was rooting for life the whole tournament, his play is too shaky. I feel like he bareley survived from the Ro 32 until today... That won´t be enough vs. Rain. (Yes, I think Rain and Life will advance and meet in the finals)
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