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On March 19 2014 21:42 TheAnarchy wrote:
Both series are going to be pretty even. Life played pretty bad against Taeja and also lost against Fantasy. On the other hand Maru TvZ is by far his weakest match. I think Life is going to take the series 3-2.
Parting and soO will be very cheesy. I think soO will win he is very good stoping cheeses and knows the play style of Parting
I think it will be a 3-1 por 3-2
All the 4 series correct and the results to 
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Fell asleep after game 2 of Parting v soO (Soultrain... more like SNOOZE TRAIN, RIGHT?) - woke up to PvZ finals... I can deal with this!
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On March 21 2014 22:25 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 22:21 WigglingSquid wrote:On March 21 2014 22:18 Zealously wrote:
Congratulations on making another GSL finals, Life Whenever someone cheers for Life, soO becomes stronger. He's not a ZvZ master though
Tell that to the last zerg soO met in the ro4
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Fuck yah non-mirror finals!
Rooting for Soo and Rain, with Soo to take it all. Hipster pick I know.
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On March 21 2014 23:02 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 22:25 Zealously wrote:On March 21 2014 22:21 WigglingSquid wrote:On March 21 2014 22:18 Zealously wrote:
Congratulations on making another GSL finals, Life Whenever someone cheers for Life, soO becomes stronger. He's not a ZvZ master though Tell that to the last zerg soO met in the ro4
Soulkey has always been a ZvZ scrub... 
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On March 21 2014 23:02 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 22:25 Zealously wrote:On March 21 2014 22:21 WigglingSquid wrote:On March 21 2014 22:18 Zealously wrote:
Congratulations on making another GSL finals, Life Whenever someone cheers for Life, soO becomes stronger. He's not a ZvZ master though Tell that to the last zerg soO met in the ro4
To be honest, Soulkey was falling off in ZvZ even before he went up against soO. I think he lost to Sleep and barely won the re-match (maybe also another match against DRG?) and had lost 0-2 to Samsung's Shine before that. Life, on the other hand, is on a monstrous streak in ZvZ.
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How disappointing to see Maru knocked out. Would have made for such a great story if he managed to win, despite being the only Terran.
Oh well, hopefully Life can win the finals now.
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I think either Rain or Life will take it. The others don't have that "champion factor".
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On March 22 2014 00:09 Holdenintherye wrote:
Terran hope... T.T Why?
You win some, you lose some, that's life.
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On March 22 2014 00:10 Zealously wrote:You win some, you lose some, that's life.
Ahhh I see what you did there ;]
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On March 21 2014 21:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 21:37 Rollora wrote:On March 21 2014 21:33 Alhoon wrote:On March 21 2014 21:27 SC2Toastie wrote:On March 21 2014 21:23 Alhoon wrote:On March 21 2014 21:17 Musicus wrote:On March 21 2014 21:03 Alhoon wrote:On March 21 2014 20:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:Parting needed more of this ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/DCKyahC.gif) It takes a special kind of idiot to not split your army against storms or archons. For those saying that's hard, try microing phoenix against them and come back saying splitting is hard. you don't even need to split, you just don't have to fly around doing nothing while getting stormed, the mutas could've just attacked the HTs or just fly out of range, just do anything ^^ Then, what is the counter for ling muta corruptor? If storms and archons are out of the question, what's left? Void Rays I feel are completely useless, you can't mass them fast enough and they're useless vs. more muta heavy composition, even en masse. Phoenix with range maybe in theory but seeing even Parting, one of the best players in the world, can't micro them good enough, I don't think anyone can. Mass Stalker is a no-go due to lings. Sick Phoenix microcombined with the zoning of Archons and Storm. I don't think I've ever seen that pulled off on GSL level, even more so if you consider P has to macro during all that. If I see it pulled off in the finals, that'd be the sickest thing ever. well microing(splitting, emping, attacking from different angles etc etc), mutlitasking (harass meanwhile, expand or whatever) and macro behind all that is something that terran has to do since the early WOL days, so it cant be that hard, saying microing one type of unit and maybe add a storm or two, is really easy compared to what T needs to do to win, so pls stop saying it is something hard to do, you are just not used to it First of all that can't be compared, second of all it was totally uncalled for. Protoss phoenix/army micro can't be compared to any other type of unit control in the game because you constantly need to keep them moving or they die and then your whole strategy falls apart. That's not what you do when you split. When you split terran units you want to move back as few units as possible to keep them from taking damage while as many units as possible fire safely at once without taking damage or being so close that they could take damage the next second. Completely different skillset. Phoenix micro is constant movement spam. Against corruptors (or with no range phoenix vs mutas) it's especially tough because you have to do it perfectly otherwise it's not effective. If you do it perfectly you outrange both, if you get too close you take damage and lose phoenixes, if you get too far away you're not doing damage. The line is extremely thin. Being able to walk that thin line while still macroing and controlling the rest of your army/running probes if necessary, etc. without losing phoenixes is the skillset you need for phoenix vs muta.
ok Olli thx for pointing that out to me
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How were the maru vs life games, so i know what i missed when i overslept and that there is no way for me to watch them because im not paying however many dollars for pvp
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On March 22 2014 00:33 Fhiz wrote:
How were the maru vs life games, so i know what i missed when i overslept and that there is no way for me to watch them because im not paying however many dollars for pvp
Really bad for a GSL ro8
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United States23455 Posts
Parting wtf why but Life the GOD! I think soO is a much better matchup for him anyway.
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On March 21 2014 21:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 21:37 Rollora wrote:On March 21 2014 21:33 Alhoon wrote:On March 21 2014 21:27 SC2Toastie wrote:On March 21 2014 21:23 Alhoon wrote:On March 21 2014 21:17 Musicus wrote:On March 21 2014 21:03 Alhoon wrote:On March 21 2014 20:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:Parting needed more of this It takes a special kind of idiot to not split your army against storms or archons. For those saying that's hard, try microing phoenix against them and come back saying splitting is hard. you don't even need to split, you just don't have to fly around doing nothing while getting stormed, the mutas could've just attacked the HTs or just fly out of range, just do anything ^^ Then, what is the counter for ling muta corruptor? If storms and archons are out of the question, what's left? Void Rays I feel are completely useless, you can't mass them fast enough and they're useless vs. more muta heavy composition, even en masse. Phoenix with range maybe in theory but seeing even Parting, one of the best players in the world, can't micro them good enough, I don't think anyone can. Mass Stalker is a no-go due to lings. Sick Phoenix microcombined with the zoning of Archons and Storm. I don't think I've ever seen that pulled off on GSL level, even more so if you consider P has to macro during all that. If I see it pulled off in the finals, that'd be the sickest thing ever. well microing(splitting, emping, attacking from different angles etc etc), mutlitasking (harass meanwhile, expand or whatever) and macro behind all that is something that terran has to do since the early WOL days, so it cant be that hard, saying microing one type of unit and maybe add a storm or two, is really easy compared to what T needs to do to win, so pls stop saying it is something hard to do, you are just not used to it First of all that can't be compared, second of all it was totally uncalled for. Protoss phoenix/army micro can't be compared to any other type of unit control in the game because you constantly need to keep them moving or they die and then your whole strategy falls apart. That's not what you do when you split. When you split terran units you want to move back as few units as possible to keep them from taking damage while as many units as possible fire safely at once without taking damage or being so close that they could take damage the next second. Completely different skillset. Phoenix micro is constant movement spam. Against corruptors (or with no range phoenix vs mutas) it's especially tough because you have to do it perfectly otherwise it's not effective. If you do it perfectly you outrange both, if you get too close you take damage and lose phoenixes, if you get too far away you're not doing damage. The line is extremely thin. Being able to walk that thin line while still macroing and controlling the rest of your army/running probes if necessary, etc. without losing phoenixes is the skillset you need for phoenix vs muta.
High skill ceilings <3
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On March 21 2014 21:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 21:37 Rollora wrote:On March 21 2014 21:33 Alhoon wrote:On March 21 2014 21:27 SC2Toastie wrote:On March 21 2014 21:23 Alhoon wrote:On March 21 2014 21:17 Musicus wrote:On March 21 2014 21:03 Alhoon wrote:On March 21 2014 20:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:Parting needed more of this It takes a special kind of idiot to not split your army against storms or archons. For those saying that's hard, try microing phoenix against them and come back saying splitting is hard. you don't even need to split, you just don't have to fly around doing nothing while getting stormed, the mutas could've just attacked the HTs or just fly out of range, just do anything ^^ Then, what is the counter for ling muta corruptor? If storms and archons are out of the question, what's left? Void Rays I feel are completely useless, you can't mass them fast enough and they're useless vs. more muta heavy composition, even en masse. Phoenix with range maybe in theory but seeing even Parting, one of the best players in the world, can't micro them good enough, I don't think anyone can. Mass Stalker is a no-go due to lings. Sick Phoenix microcombined with the zoning of Archons and Storm. I don't think I've ever seen that pulled off on GSL level, even more so if you consider P has to macro during all that. If I see it pulled off in the finals, that'd be the sickest thing ever. well microing(splitting, emping, attacking from different angles etc etc), mutlitasking (harass meanwhile, expand or whatever) and macro behind all that is something that terran has to do since the early WOL days, so it cant be that hard, saying microing one type of unit and maybe add a storm or two, is really easy compared to what T needs to do to win, so pls stop saying it is something hard to do, you are just not used to it First of all that can't be compared, second of all it was totally uncalled for. Protoss phoenix/army micro can't be compared to any other type of unit control in the game because you constantly need to keep them moving or they die and then your whole strategy falls apart. That's not what you do when you split. When you split terran units you want to move back as few units as possible to keep them from taking damage while as many units as possible fire safely at once without taking damage or being so close that they could take damage the next second. Completely different skillset. Phoenix micro is constant movement spam. Against corruptors (or with no range phoenix vs mutas) it's especially tough because you have to do it perfectly otherwise it's not effective. If you do it perfectly you outrange both, if you get too close you take damage and lose phoenixes, if you get too far away you're not doing damage. The line is extremely thin. Being able to walk that thin line while still macroing and controlling the rest of your army/running probes if necessary, etc. without losing phoenixes is the skillset you need for phoenix vs muta.
I'm fine as long as we agree that Zerg doesn't really need any kind of micro.
Huhuhuh.
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On March 21 2014 23:46 Ctesias wrote:
How disappointing to see Maru knocked out. Would have made for such a great story if he managed to win, despite being the only Terran.
Oh well, hopefully Life can win the finals now.
While I was rooting for life the whole tournament, his play is too shaky. I feel like he bareley survived from the Ro 32 until today... That won´t be enough vs. Rain. (Yes, I think Rain and Life will advance and meet in the finals)
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EPT
