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perrysnagy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States32 Posts
March 21 2014 12:37 GMT
#1841
What was the final box score for SoO vs Parting? I fell asleep and liquipedia still says 1-1
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InspiredFrog
Profile Joined February 2009
Finland522 Posts
March 21 2014 12:39 GMT
#1842
Successfully picked every match wrong in the bracket contest! \o/

Time to root for Zest / Life now, although soO taking it all would be a fitting end to this.
Much | Iris | July --- TaeJa | HerO | TLO
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 12:49:49
March 21 2014 12:42 GMT
#1843
On March 21 2014 21:37 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 21:33 Alhoon wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:27 SC2Toastie wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:23 Alhoon wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:17 Musicus wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:03 Alhoon wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Parting needed more of this

[image loading]

It takes a special kind of idiot to not split your army against storms or archons. For those saying that's hard, try microing phoenix against them and come back saying splitting is hard.


you don't even need to split, you just don't have to fly around doing nothing while getting stormed, the mutas could've just attacked the HTs or just fly out of range, just do anything ^^

Then, what is the counter for ling muta corruptor? If storms and archons are out of the question, what's left? Void Rays I feel are completely useless, you can't mass them fast enough and they're useless vs. more muta heavy composition, even en masse. Phoenix with range maybe in theory but seeing even Parting, one of the best players in the world, can't micro them good enough, I don't think anyone can. Mass Stalker is a no-go due to lings.

Sick Phoenix microcombined with the zoning of Archons and Storm.

I don't think I've ever seen that pulled off on GSL level, even more so if you consider P has to macro during all that. If I see it pulled off in the finals, that'd be the sickest thing ever.

well microing(splitting, emping, attacking from different angles etc etc), mutlitasking (harass meanwhile, expand or whatever) and macro behind all that is something that terran has to do since the early WOL days, so it cant be that hard, saying microing one type of unit and maybe add a storm or two, is really easy compared to what T needs to do to win, so pls stop saying it is something hard to do, you are just not used to it


First of all that can't be compared, second of all it was totally uncalled for.

Protoss phoenix/army micro can't be compared to any other type of unit control in the game because you constantly need to keep them moving or they die and then your whole strategy falls apart. That's not what you do when you split. When you split terran units you want to move back as few units as possible to keep them from taking damage while as many units as possible fire safely at once without taking damage or being so close that they could take damage the next second.
Completely different skillset.

Phoenix micro is constant movement spam. Against corruptors (or with no range phoenix vs mutas) it's especially tough because you have to do it perfectly otherwise it's not effective. If you do it perfectly you outrange both, if you get too close you take damage and lose phoenixes, if you get too far away you're not doing damage. The line is extremely thin. Being able to walk that thin line while still macroing and controlling the rest of your army/running probes if necessary, etc. without losing phoenixes is the skillset you need for phoenix vs muta.
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12276 Posts
March 21 2014 12:42 GMT
#1844
Damn I got rolled today :/ Pretty surprised with those results. I will say that I probably thought PartinG would beat soO based on how much I like him more than anything else, he has shown a disturbing tendency to not go through Ro8 a lot.
No will to live, no wish to die
jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
March 21 2014 12:42 GMT
#1845
On March 21 2014 21:39 InspiredFrog wrote:
Successfully picked every match wrong in the bracket contest! \o/

Time to root for Zest / Life now, although soO taking it all would be a fitting end to this.


Only right pick was Rain for me.. but hey.. why would soO or Zest be a surprise.. soO is quite consistent in GSL, last GSL he finished 2nd (4-2 vs Dear) and Zest if one of the best pro league players. Anyhow, since Maru is out I`ll root for Life.. gogo Life
Maru | Life | herO
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
March 21 2014 12:43 GMT
#1846
Well that was... unexpected
Parting :[
SooYoung-Noona!
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 21 2014 12:55 GMT
#1847
Wow, my predictions for this day could not have been any more wrong. I had parting to win it all!
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
sorrowptoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1431 Posts
March 21 2014 12:56 GMT
#1848
3-2 victory over Maru was not unexpected.
But Parting... I'm sad
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 21 2014 13:16 GMT
#1849
On March 21 2014 21:55 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Wow, my predictions for this day could not have been any more wrong. I had parting to win it all!


Parting will never win it all.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 21 2014 13:18 GMT
#1850
Congratulations on making another GSL finals, Life
AdministratorBreak the chains
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
March 21 2014 13:21 GMT
#1851
On March 21 2014 22:18 Zealously wrote:
Congratulations on making another GSL finals, Life

Whenever someone cheers for Life, soO becomes stronger.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 21 2014 13:25 GMT
#1852
On March 21 2014 22:21 WigglingSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 22:18 Zealously wrote:
Congratulations on making another GSL finals, Life

Whenever someone cheers for Life, soO becomes stronger.

He's not a ZvZ master though
AdministratorBreak the chains
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 21 2014 13:32 GMT
#1853
On March 21 2014 22:16 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 21:55 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Wow, my predictions for this day could not have been any more wrong. I had parting to win it all!


Parting will never win it all.


I thought he was due for a win, shows what I know.

RIP my brackets and chances of winning any contests.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
March 21 2014 13:33 GMT
#1854
Well, soO does have a lot of time to prepare with neither foreign tournaments nor PL. I guess that´s why he still seems kind of bland to me.
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8158 Posts
March 21 2014 13:36 GMT
#1855
I think I'm 0/16 in liquibets in recent GSL history
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Morphage
Profile Joined September 2011
France492 Posts
March 21 2014 13:37 GMT
#1856
I hope it's a Rain vs Life final, with Life winning of course.
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 13:38:29
March 21 2014 13:37 GMT
#1857
Too bad PartinG, on the bright side he's the fourth player to receive the NesTea award
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7366 Posts
March 21 2014 13:44 GMT
#1858
Well, at least Life beat Maru... damn, I wish PartinG got through though. v_v
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
March 21 2014 13:46 GMT
#1859
On March 21 2014 21:37 perrysnagy wrote:
What was the final box score for SoO vs Parting? I fell asleep and liquipedia still says 1-1

3:1
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1414 Posts
March 21 2014 13:51 GMT
#1860
On March 21 2014 21:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 21:37 Rollora wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:33 Alhoon wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:27 SC2Toastie wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:23 Alhoon wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:17 Musicus wrote:
On March 21 2014 21:03 Alhoon wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Parting needed more of this

[image loading]

It takes a special kind of idiot to not split your army against storms or archons. For those saying that's hard, try microing phoenix against them and come back saying splitting is hard.


you don't even need to split, you just don't have to fly around doing nothing while getting stormed, the mutas could've just attacked the HTs or just fly out of range, just do anything ^^

Then, what is the counter for ling muta corruptor? If storms and archons are out of the question, what's left? Void Rays I feel are completely useless, you can't mass them fast enough and they're useless vs. more muta heavy composition, even en masse. Phoenix with range maybe in theory but seeing even Parting, one of the best players in the world, can't micro them good enough, I don't think anyone can. Mass Stalker is a no-go due to lings.

Sick Phoenix microcombined with the zoning of Archons and Storm.

I don't think I've ever seen that pulled off on GSL level, even more so if you consider P has to macro during all that. If I see it pulled off in the finals, that'd be the sickest thing ever.

well microing(splitting, emping, attacking from different angles etc etc), mutlitasking (harass meanwhile, expand or whatever) and macro behind all that is something that terran has to do since the early WOL days, so it cant be that hard, saying microing one type of unit and maybe add a storm or two, is really easy compared to what T needs to do to win, so pls stop saying it is something hard to do, you are just not used to it


First of all that can't be compared, second of all it was totally uncalled for.

Protoss phoenix/army micro can't be compared to any other type of unit control in the game because you constantly need to keep them moving or they die and then your whole strategy falls apart. That's not what you do when you split. When you split terran units you want to move back as few units as possible to keep them from taking damage while as many units as possible fire safely at once without taking damage or being so close that they could take damage the next second.
Completely different skillset.

Phoenix micro is constant movement spam. Against corruptors (or with no range phoenix vs mutas) it's especially tough because you have to do it perfectly otherwise it's not effective. If you do it perfectly you outrange both, if you get too close you take damage and lose phoenixes, if you get too far away you're not doing damage. The line is extremely thin. Being able to walk that thin line while still macroing and controlling the rest of your army/running probes if necessary, etc. without losing phoenixes is the skillset you need for phoenix vs muta.

which is why nobody goes for phoenixes in big lategame matches.
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