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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 15 2014 20:34 GMT
#5461
On March 16 2014 05:30 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 05:25 Ammanas wrote:
Is it so hard to admit herO just played better today? Instead of all the fucking whining - everyone saying protoss is boring, but from what I have seen, the most boring thing around is the constant fucking whining...

I'm really not sure how anyone could say how herO was playing is boring. Would we rather go back to the days where Protoss could basically only hide in their base in fear of drops until it was time to move out with a maxed army? An aggressive option like Blink makes games way more interesting, imo. I also think that with the last round of patches, it's settling into a more proper "aggressive" option rather than just an auto win opening. I still think Terran players maybe have not explored widow mine openings enough, either, but we'll see.


I think the problem is more with the maps now. Some of the maps still have too big of an area to blink and widow mines cannot cover them all.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
March 15 2014 20:34 GMT
#5462
On March 16 2014 05:31 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 05:29 Incognoto wrote:
are they even allowed to split the money?

i dont think you can forbid people to exchange money

in borderline situations they could call it a "donation"


Even in the initial interview carmac said, that it would be allowed and may happen
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
March 15 2014 20:34 GMT
#5463
On March 16 2014 05:32 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 05:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I have no problem of PvP final and never had.

But maybe after after San vs herO more people would understand that PvP is the best mirror mu


Keep deluding yourself.

There will never be a PvP series even half as good as some of the TvTs we've seen in HoTS.

How can you watch a series like Innovation vs Taeja at WCS Season 2 and not admit that TvT just has the highest potential of any of the mirrors. Nothing that PvP will ever offer can even hope to compare.

It's all taste. I personally think TvT is quite boring. Especially compared to the current state of PvP


It's not taste if the only players agreeing with you are protoss players.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
March 15 2014 20:34 GMT
#5464
On March 16 2014 05:33 royalroadweed wrote:
I wonder how fast taeja will gg? I'm betting before 12 mins.


If he can't hold blink you may be right, but hoping for less blink games :/
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
March 15 2014 20:34 GMT
#5465
Looks like both Hyun and San are behind Taeja. Go go Taeja!
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12363 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 20:35:15
March 15 2014 20:35 GMT
#5466
I feel like I have to apologize to Darkhorse, I thought it was common sense that "you're wrong for liking X" was a stupid sentence to write, from reading this thread it appears not to be.
No will to live, no wish to die
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 15 2014 20:35 GMT
#5467
On March 16 2014 05:33 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 05:32 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:32 stuchiu wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:29 Dinotramp wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I have no problem of PvP final and never had.

But maybe after after San vs herO more people would understand that PvP is the best mirror mu

better than tvt, what are you smoking?


The truth


You may like it more and there may be great games from it but MMA vs Gumiho and Innovation vs Taeja will live on forever.

PvP has come a long way but I still prefer TvT. Olli only likes matchups with Protoss in them.

Is Olli satan?


D:

I can't help it, there's something special about protoss that makes me happy
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 15 2014 20:35 GMT
#5468
On March 16 2014 05:34 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 05:30 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:25 Ammanas wrote:
Is it so hard to admit herO just played better today? Instead of all the fucking whining - everyone saying protoss is boring, but from what I have seen, the most boring thing around is the constant fucking whining...

I'm really not sure how anyone could say how herO was playing is boring. Would we rather go back to the days where Protoss could basically only hide in their base in fear of drops until it was time to move out with a maxed army? An aggressive option like Blink makes games way more interesting, imo. I also think that with the last round of patches, it's settling into a more proper "aggressive" option rather than just an auto win opening. I still think Terran players maybe have not explored widow mine openings enough, either, but we'll see.


I think the problem is more with the maps now. Some of the maps still have too big of an area to blink and widow mines cannot cover them all.


Too bad the mapmaking scene kind of died out. They only come out for TLMC contests now.
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Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
March 15 2014 20:35 GMT
#5469
On March 16 2014 05:34 imrusty269 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 05:32 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I have no problem of PvP final and never had.

But maybe after after San vs herO more people would understand that PvP is the best mirror mu


Keep deluding yourself.

There will never be a PvP series even half as good as some of the TvTs we've seen in HoTS.

How can you watch a series like Innovation vs Taeja at WCS Season 2 and not admit that TvT just has the highest potential of any of the mirrors. Nothing that PvP will ever offer can even hope to compare.

It's all taste. I personally think TvT is quite boring. Especially compared to the current state of PvP


It's not taste if the only players agreeing with you are protoss players.

"protoss players" heh. "players"
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 15 2014 20:35 GMT
#5470
On March 16 2014 05:35 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 05:33 Lorning wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:32 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:32 stuchiu wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:29 Dinotramp wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I have no problem of PvP final and never had.

But maybe after after San vs herO more people would understand that PvP is the best mirror mu

better than tvt, what are you smoking?


The truth


You may like it more and there may be great games from it but MMA vs Gumiho and Innovation vs Taeja will live on forever.

PvP has come a long way but I still prefer TvT. Olli only likes matchups with Protoss in them.

Is Olli satan?


D:

I can't help it, there's something special about protoss that makes me happy

I like PvP on New Polaris Rhapsody.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 15 2014 20:35 GMT
#5471
both sOs and herO have legit shots at winning IEM + GSL meaning they could make $165k in the next month if things go their way
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mqto
Profile Joined August 2011
54 Posts
March 15 2014 20:35 GMT
#5472
On March 16 2014 05:26 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 05:25 Dinotramp wrote:
the viwers are low for semis right?


not lower than for taeja vs life
No foreigners = no 100k viewers

It really looks like all the casual viewers have move to somewhere else. Even cs:go have almost double the viewers. ESL will probably have to think soon if it's even worth to keep sc2 on their big events.
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
March 15 2014 20:35 GMT
#5473
On March 16 2014 05:33 Dinotramp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 05:32 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I have no problem of PvP final and never had.

But maybe after after San vs herO more people would understand that PvP is the best mirror mu


Keep deluding yourself.

There will never be a PvP series even half as good as some of the TvTs we've seen in HoTS.

How can you watch a series like Innovation vs Taeja at WCS Season 2 and not admit that TvT just has the highest potential of any of the mirrors. Nothing that PvP will ever offer can even hope to compare.

It's all taste. I personally think TvT is quite boring.

TvT is so rare this year, such few games

Even when we had TvT more often, I always found it boring. I think watching stimmed bio just run around all over the map sniping stuff is silly, and tank lines are a snooze fest.

That isn't to say I don't acknowledge the intricacies of the matchup, and how positioning and such is so important, I just don't find it particularly interesting to watch. I feel like PvP is much more interesting from a viewer standpoint these days. It's only been recently that PvP has reached this level, though, so I can sort of understand if people are still in the old mindset of "lol PvP sux so much bro"
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 15 2014 20:35 GMT
#5474
On March 16 2014 05:35 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 05:33 Lorning wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:32 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:32 stuchiu wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:29 Dinotramp wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I have no problem of PvP final and never had.

But maybe after after San vs herO more people would understand that PvP is the best mirror mu

better than tvt, what are you smoking?


The truth


You may like it more and there may be great games from it but MMA vs Gumiho and Innovation vs Taeja will live on forever.

PvP has come a long way but I still prefer TvT. Olli only likes matchups with Protoss in them.

Is Olli satan?


D:

I can't help it, there's something special about protoss that makes me happy

Is it Protoss getting wrecked?
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imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
March 15 2014 20:36 GMT
#5475
On March 16 2014 05:35 Dinotramp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 05:34 imrusty269 wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:32 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I have no problem of PvP final and never had.

But maybe after after San vs herO more people would understand that PvP is the best mirror mu


Keep deluding yourself.

There will never be a PvP series even half as good as some of the TvTs we've seen in HoTS.

How can you watch a series like Innovation vs Taeja at WCS Season 2 and not admit that TvT just has the highest potential of any of the mirrors. Nothing that PvP will ever offer can even hope to compare.

It's all taste. I personally think TvT is quite boring. Especially compared to the current state of PvP


It's not taste if the only players agreeing with you are protoss players.

"protoss players" heh. "players"


what?
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 15 2014 20:36 GMT
#5476
On March 16 2014 05:35 Shellshock wrote:
both sOs and herO have legit shots at winning IEM + GSL meaning they could make $165k in the next month if things go their way


We could have the same finals too. Except Maru exists.
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KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
March 15 2014 20:36 GMT
#5477
On March 16 2014 05:34 imrusty269 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 05:32 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 16 2014 05:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I have no problem of PvP final and never had.

But maybe after after San vs herO more people would understand that PvP is the best mirror mu


Keep deluding yourself.

There will never be a PvP series even half as good as some of the TvTs we've seen in HoTS.

How can you watch a series like Innovation vs Taeja at WCS Season 2 and not admit that TvT just has the highest potential of any of the mirrors. Nothing that PvP will ever offer can even hope to compare.

It's all taste. I personally think TvT is quite boring. Especially compared to the current state of PvP


It's not taste if the only players agreeing with you are protoss players.

Protoss players preferring PvP over TvT? YOU DON'T SAY!!!!!
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 20:36:43
March 15 2014 20:36 GMT
#5478
On March 16 2014 05:36 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 05:35 Shellshock wrote:
both sOs and herO have legit shots at winning IEM + GSL meaning they could make $165k in the next month if things go their way


We could have the same finals too. Except Maru exists.

sOs and herO can only meet in the semis in GSL
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 15 2014 20:36 GMT
#5479
On March 16 2014 05:35 Shellshock wrote:
both sOs and herO have legit shots at winning IEM + GSL meaning they could make $165k in the next month if things go their way

I'm not sure who to root for if they both advance to the finals >.>
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45080 Posts
March 15 2014 20:36 GMT
#5480
On March 16 2014 05:29 Incognoto wrote:
are they even allowed to split the money?


After the tournament is over, I assume so.

They just can't throw the matches lol.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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