[WCS AM] Ro32 Group D Premier Season 1 2014 - Page 58

Stop whining. This lr is terrible.

Squat

Sweden7978 Posts

February 27 2014 01:49 GMT

#1141

On February 27 2014 10:48 Darkhorse wrote:
Ok so I have a theory. Bomber realized JD is having an off day, so he decided he would lose to Arthur so he could knock out JD, knowing JD would be a harder opponent later on. Yeah? Yeah.

I'm just impressed that Bomber managed to GG. He's a bigger man than me.

Meepman

Canada610 Posts

February 27 2014 01:49 GMT

#1142

On February 27 2014 10:48 KelsierSC wrote:
This game is like the template for how to be a fuckhead with protoss

this entire group more like it

mikumegurine

Canada3145 Posts

February 27 2014 01:49 GMT

#1143

mass pheonix + 1 void ray vs mass hydra

FueledUpAndReadyToGo

Netherlands30548 Posts

February 27 2014 01:49 GMT

#1144

Photon overcharge goes off, great defense!!!!

Rollora

2450 Posts

February 27 2014 01:49 GMT

#1145

what the HELL am I watching.
cannonrush against 2 bases at once
into an almost dead JD
now JD doubling Has supply
still Has has a chance? No this must be gg...

Darkhorse

United States23455 Posts

February 27 2014 01:50 GMT

#1146

On February 27 2014 10:48 felisconcolori wrote:

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So it's a form of Drake equation. Fascinating. I still think some further data is needed. And I question your something something - I think it would be more appropriate to use advanced mumble mumble.

Oh don't bring that bullshit to me you fool. The mumble mumble theorem has been dis proven time and time again. It has no place in solid, logically defined Starcraft math.

The_Templar

your Country52797 Posts

February 27 2014 01:50 GMT

#1147

On February 27 2014 10:47 The_Templar wrote:

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6:00
Jaedong saves his third hatchery by killing 3 cannons, but loses a ton of zerglings.
Stargate for Has.

7:00 (Z)

Jaedong 39 vs (P)

Has 27
Warp gate is starting for Has.
Has chronoboosting an oracle.

8:00 (Z)

Jaedong 47 vs (P)

Has 33
Has finishing up his expansion.
Mothership core for Has.
Has getting 3 more gateways.
Jaedong getting 2 spore crawlers and a roach warren.
Jaedong taking a 4th base as his 3rd.

9:00 (Z)

Jaedong 52 vs (P)

Has 40
Has getting phoenixes now since his oracle has been denied.
+1 ranged attack for Jaedong.
Jaedong going for the cannons in his main.
Zealots warped in and do nearly nothing.
More zealot warpins for Has.

11:00 (Z)

Jaedong 89 vs (P)

Has 58
Two more stargates for Has.
Jaedong getting two hydralisk dens.
Has killing queens with phoenixes and his oracle.

12:00

Jaedong 95 vs (P)

Has 59
Jaedong getting hydralisk range and speed at the same time.
Lots of hydralisks on the way.
Has getting 3 phoenixes at a time.
Has getting a third base.

13:00 (Z)

Jaedong 109 vs (P)

Has 75
Jaedong finally cleans up everything in his main base.
Jaedong taking his natural expansion.

14:00 (Z)

Jaedong 131 vs (P)

Has 83
Void ray and +1 air attack for Has.
Has getting a twilight council.
Tons of workers die to phoenixes but Jaedong is pushing across the map.
Photon overcharge on Has's third base.

15:00 (Z)

Jaedong 137 vs (P)

Has 105
Jaedong replacing his drones.
Spire for Jaedong.
+2 ground attack and charge on the way for Has.
Jaedong getting roach speed and +2 ranged attack.

mikumegurine

Canada3145 Posts

February 27 2014 01:50 GMT

#1148

just make like 3 or 4 voidrays + MSC to snipe the low health hatch then recall out of there lol?

imre

France9263 Posts

February 27 2014 01:50 GMT

#1149

On February 27 2014 10:48 felisconcolori wrote:

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So it's a form of Drake equation. Fascinating. I still think some further data is needed. And I question your something something - I think it would be more appropriate to use advanced mumble mumble.

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On February 27 2014 10:48 sAsImre wrote:

On February 27 2014 10:47 felisconcolori wrote:

On February 27 2014 10:45 i.of.the.storm wrote:

On February 27 2014 10:42 sAsImre wrote:

On February 27 2014 10:41 felisconcolori wrote:

On February 27 2014 10:39 sAsImre wrote:

On February 27 2014 10:38 mikumegurine wrote:

On February 27 2014 10:36 Caihead wrote:

On February 27 2014 10:34 Doublemint wrote:
People are so salty these days. If Bomber scouts this out properly he beats 9 out of 10 times. I mean the allin was sooo damn late and was able to work because Bomber had NO map presence at all.

9 out of 10 times?

Where did bomber's minerals go? Marine Marauder Medivac. What would he have built if he scouted it? Marine Marauder Medivac. As far as I can see he didn't skip a single cycle.

Are you proposing 3 more bunkers? Forcefields made that pointless. 2 more barracks? Wouldn't have kicked in yet, would have meant even less marine marauder.

so are you saying Arthurs strategy on that map is invincible? never can lose? since theres nothing you can do against it?

gamble that's bad against a wm drop. He tossed coins 3times, got it right 2.

I'm thinking it'd be better to be super aggressive - hit the gold, when he overcharges the gold, walk over to the main. Pray he doesn't have sentries. If you see sentries, pull back and get some kind of splash damage.

I can't think of any way to easily stop it, or even moderately stop it. Maybe ask Polt.

I think the TvP in PL are way more indicative about what's going than Polt awesome play (he played mostly macro games), T goes for wacky builds to throw off the P and limit the all in potential by forcing some defense (detection ie)

Yeah, I still feel like there's a decent element of luck to Polt's success at IEM. The wacky shit Maru and co keep doing in Proleague seems oddly more reliable than hoping the Protoss is braindead.

I think part of it is Polt is absolutely willing to engage in a base race while lifting to the corner if he has to do so. But clearly, some kind of insanity is required.

everyone is willing to do this but it happens after most P 2b timings (like 12/13 min shit)

Yes, but Polt commits to it earlier. Or so it seems. It's like he knows.

not really, it happens when you get at least 4medivacs, it happens a lot to Polt because he plays with at least half his army on the P side of the map everytime so it's a logical decision if the P decides to commit to an attack.