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Stop whining. This lr is terrible.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
February 27 2014 01:49 GMT
#1141
On February 27 2014 10:48 Darkhorse wrote:
Ok so I have a theory. Bomber realized JD is having an off day, so he decided he would lose to Arthur so he could knock out JD, knowing JD would be a harder opponent later on. Yeah? Yeah.

I'm just impressed that Bomber managed to GG. He's a bigger man than me.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Meepman
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada610 Posts
February 27 2014 01:49 GMT
#1142
On February 27 2014 10:48 KelsierSC wrote:
This game is like the template for how to be a fuckhead with protoss


this entire group more like it
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
February 27 2014 01:49 GMT
#1143
mass pheonix + 1 void ray vs mass hydra
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 27 2014 01:49 GMT
#1144
Photon overcharge goes off, great defense!!!!
Neosteel Enthusiast
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
February 27 2014 01:49 GMT
#1145
what the HELL am I watching.
cannonrush against 2 bases at once
into an almost dead JD
now JD doubling Has supply
still Has has a chance? No this must be gg...
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 27 2014 01:50 GMT
#1146
On February 27 2014 10:48 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:47 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:45 felisconcolori wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:43 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:40 i.of.the.storm wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:36 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:34 KelsierSC wrote:
Best thing to do is keep building an infinite bunker wall, you can salvage them so they only cost 25 minerals when you put them down, protoss gets distracted killing your free bunkers and then you can overwhelm them.

That would require changing bunker build time. Do we really want to go down that road?


But seriously, if we drop bunker build time by 5 seconds, we could defend 13% more blink all ins!


I like how you crunched the numbers on this

So it's like this you see? If you take 40 mutas/8 spore crawlers + blink build research time + the time that Taldarim was in the map pool - The number of protosses currently qualified for Code S ro16 all / by something something Khadarian Amulet and that = Terran is dead

It's just science.


I think you could have worked in some fractional bunker changes and reduction of neural parasite into there. Your method is flawed.

I DEMAND TO SEE YOUR DATA, SIR!

It's a living equation. Different factors are added and dropped. Starcraft math is ever changing.


So it's a form of Drake equation. Fascinating. I still think some further data is needed. And I question your something something - I think it would be more appropriate to use advanced mumble mumble.

Oh don't bring that bullshit to me you fool. The mumble mumble theorem has been dis proven time and time again. It has no place in solid, logically defined Starcraft math.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 27 2014 01:50 GMT
#1147
On February 27 2014 10:47 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:43 The_Templar wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:39 The_Templar wrote:
WCS America: Premier

(Z)Jaedong vs (P)Has
0-0


Map: Alterzim Stronghold


Has spawns in the bottom right
Jaedong spawns in the bottom left

2:00
Has going forge first at his main ramp.
Jaedong going forge first.
Both players scouting each other.
Uh... Has builds a pyon in Jaedong's main.

3:00
Jaedong getting a spawning pool.
A second pylon in Jaedong's main, in the same spot, followed by a cannon.
Hatchery at Jaedong's third base...
Has builds two more cannons at Jaedong's natural, followed by a third one.
Gateway at Jaedong's main base.

4:00
Has cannon rushing the third and natural at the same time.
Jaedong only got 4 zerglings.
Jaedong getting 6 more zerglings, and 2 queens

5:00
The natural of Jaedong dies.
Has getting both assimilators in his main.
Cybernetics core for Has.

6:00
Jaedong saves his third hatchery by killing 3 cannons, but loses a ton of zerglings.
Stargate for Has.

7:00 (Z)Jaedong 39 vs (P)Has 27
Warp gate is starting for Has.
Has chronoboosting an oracle.

8:00 (Z)Jaedong 47 vs (P)Has 33
Has finishing up his expansion.
Mothership core for Has.
Has getting 3 more gateways.
Jaedong getting 2 spore crawlers and a roach warren.
Jaedong taking a 4th base as his 3rd.

9:00 (Z)Jaedong 52 vs (P)Has 40
Has getting phoenixes now since his oracle has been denied.
+1 ranged attack for Jaedong.
Jaedong going for the cannons in his main.
Zealots warped in and do nearly nothing.
More zealot warpins for Has.

11:00 (Z)Jaedong 89 vs (P)Has 58
Two more stargates for Has.
Jaedong getting two hydralisk dens.
Has killing queens with phoenixes and his oracle.

12:00 (Z)Jaedong 95 vs (P)Has 59
Jaedong getting hydralisk range and speed at the same time.
Lots of hydralisks on the way.
Has getting 3 phoenixes at a time.
Has getting a third base.

13:00 (Z)Jaedong 109 vs (P)Has 75
Jaedong finally cleans up everything in his main base.
Jaedong taking his natural expansion.

14:00 (Z)Jaedong 131 vs (P)Has 83
Void ray and +1 air attack for Has.
Has getting a twilight council.
Tons of workers die to phoenixes but Jaedong is pushing across the map.
Photon overcharge on Has's third base.

15:00 (Z)Jaedong 137 vs (P)Has 105
Jaedong replacing his drones.
Spire for Jaedong.
+2 ground attack and charge on the way for Has.
Jaedong getting roach speed and +2 ranged attack.
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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
February 27 2014 01:50 GMT
#1148
just make like 3 or 4 voidrays + MSC to snipe the low health hatch then recall out of there lol?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 27 2014 01:50 GMT
#1149
On February 27 2014 10:48 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:47 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:45 felisconcolori wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:43 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:40 i.of.the.storm wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:36 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:34 KelsierSC wrote:
Best thing to do is keep building an infinite bunker wall, you can salvage them so they only cost 25 minerals when you put them down, protoss gets distracted killing your free bunkers and then you can overwhelm them.

That would require changing bunker build time. Do we really want to go down that road?


But seriously, if we drop bunker build time by 5 seconds, we could defend 13% more blink all ins!


I like how you crunched the numbers on this

So it's like this you see? If you take 40 mutas/8 spore crawlers + blink build research time + the time that Taldarim was in the map pool - The number of protosses currently qualified for Code S ro16 all / by something something Khadarian Amulet and that = Terran is dead

It's just science.


I think you could have worked in some fractional bunker changes and reduction of neural parasite into there. Your method is flawed.

I DEMAND TO SEE YOUR DATA, SIR!

It's a living equation. Different factors are added and dropped. Starcraft math is ever changing.


So it's a form of Drake equation. Fascinating. I still think some further data is needed. And I question your something something - I think it would be more appropriate to use advanced mumble mumble.


Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:48 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:47 felisconcolori wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:45 i.of.the.storm wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:42 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:41 felisconcolori wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:39 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:38 mikumegurine wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:36 Caihead wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:34 Doublemint wrote:
People are so salty these days. If Bomber scouts this out properly he beats 9 out of 10 times. I mean the allin was sooo damn late and was able to work because Bomber had NO map presence at all.


9 out of 10 times?

Where did bomber's minerals go? Marine Marauder Medivac. What would he have built if he scouted it? Marine Marauder Medivac. As far as I can see he didn't skip a single cycle.

Are you proposing 3 more bunkers? Forcefields made that pointless. 2 more barracks? Wouldn't have kicked in yet, would have meant even less marine marauder.


so are you saying Arthurs strategy on that map is invincible? never can lose? since theres nothing you can do against it?


gamble that's bad against a wm drop. He tossed coins 3times, got it right 2.


I'm thinking it'd be better to be super aggressive - hit the gold, when he overcharges the gold, walk over to the main. Pray he doesn't have sentries. If you see sentries, pull back and get some kind of splash damage.

I can't think of any way to easily stop it, or even moderately stop it. Maybe ask Polt.


I think the TvP in PL are way more indicative about what's going than Polt awesome play (he played mostly macro games), T goes for wacky builds to throw off the P and limit the all in potential by forcing some defense (detection ie)



Yeah, I still feel like there's a decent element of luck to Polt's success at IEM. The wacky shit Maru and co keep doing in Proleague seems oddly more reliable than hoping the Protoss is braindead.


I think part of it is Polt is absolutely willing to engage in a base race while lifting to the corner if he has to do so. But clearly, some kind of insanity is required.


everyone is willing to do this but it happens after most P 2b timings (like 12/13 min shit)


Yes, but Polt commits to it earlier. Or so it seems. It's like he knows.


not really, it happens when you get at least 4medivacs, it happens a lot to Polt because he plays with at least half his army on the P side of the map everytime so it's a logical decision if the P decides to commit to an attack.
Zest fanboy.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
February 27 2014 01:50 GMT
#1150
On February 27 2014 10:49 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:48 Darkhorse wrote:
Ok so I have a theory. Bomber realized JD is having an off day, so he decided he would lose to Arthur so he could knock out JD, knowing JD would be a harder opponent later on. Yeah? Yeah.

I'm just impressed that Bomber managed to GG. He's a bigger man than me.

I was thinking the exact same thing. The most I could've mustered would've been a "lol"
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
February 27 2014 01:51 GMT
#1151
Rotti is dead wrong. If JD had attacked there he would have been slaughtered.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8247 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 01:51:21
February 27 2014 01:51 GMT
#1152
On February 27 2014 10:50 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:49 Squat wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:48 Darkhorse wrote:
Ok so I have a theory. Bomber realized JD is having an off day, so he decided he would lose to Arthur so he could knock out JD, knowing JD would be a harder opponent later on. Yeah? Yeah.

I'm just impressed that Bomber managed to GG. He's a bigger man than me.

I was thinking the exact same thing. The most I could've mustered would've been a "lol"

People GG? I just F10 + N.
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
February 27 2014 01:51 GMT
#1153
Twitch is now unwatchably laggy on low in Australia. GG twitch. Please stream on youtube as well tournaments. Thanks.
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
February 27 2014 01:51 GMT
#1154
On February 27 2014 10:51 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:50 Yorkie wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:49 Squat wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:48 Darkhorse wrote:
Ok so I have a theory. Bomber realized JD is having an off day, so he decided he would lose to Arthur so he could knock out JD, knowing JD would be a harder opponent later on. Yeah? Yeah.

I'm just impressed that Bomber managed to GG. He's a bigger man than me.

I was thinking the exact same thing. The most I could've mustered would've been a "lol"

People GG? I just F10 + Q.


GG? That's a phrase I haven't seen on ladder in a long, long time.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 27 2014 01:51 GMT
#1155
If two protoss advance I will be running from the shithole this LR thread will become.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 01:52:22
February 27 2014 01:51 GMT
#1156
Protossed incoming =\
edit: yay
T P Z sagi
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
February 27 2014 01:52 GMT
#1157
On February 27 2014 10:51 Fission wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:51 geokilla wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:50 Yorkie wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:49 Squat wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:48 Darkhorse wrote:
Ok so I have a theory. Bomber realized JD is having an off day, so he decided he would lose to Arthur so he could knock out JD, knowing JD would be a harder opponent later on. Yeah? Yeah.

I'm just impressed that Bomber managed to GG. He's a bigger man than me.

I was thinking the exact same thing. The most I could've mustered would've been a "lol"

People GG? I just F10 + Q.


GG? That's a phrase I haven't seen on ladder in a long, long time.


I think the last thing i ever saw on ladder was 'fuck you'
Granted, I 2 gated a protoss, but still
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
February 27 2014 01:52 GMT
#1158
Why is he making more roaches? Mass hydra is better yes?
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
February 27 2014 01:52 GMT
#1159
On February 27 2014 10:51 Darkhorse wrote:
If two protoss advance I will be running from the shithole this LR thread will become.


The important part is that I will pad the hell out of my report stats.
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
February 27 2014 01:52 GMT
#1160
No aoe @19 minutes. Yeah right.
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