EPTYes but if he had KEPT them i was trying to say :=)
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
Yes but if he had KEPT them i was trying to say :=) | ||
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
Anyway Parting played very well especially his immortal allin against Rogou looked very impressive. | ||
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Wintex
Norway16846 Posts
On February 09 2014 20:50 Zygno wrote: The "push" was planned even before knowing about Maru's reapers. Yes? | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On February 09 2014 20:50 YyapSsap wrote: Well.. when was the last time this build was stopped in a televised match in proleague or GSL? Maru and TY stopped this build in Round1 | ||
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
Parting also lost 3 stalkers and had no mining while doing "2 base blink". Maybe reapers were not the best choice but it is easy to look just what went wrong for Maru without accepting what he did good in that game. Also, don't you think that having only 1 viable opening is bad for the game. Not to mention that terrans were losing to 2 base blink on Star Station even when going for 12/12 reaper expo into 3 rax and getting scouting info on the all in, all at the same time. You can always find some mistake to point out but Parting was also playing less than optimal 1. losing 3 stalkers while doing blink stalker all in 2. no mining at his natural while doing 2 base blink stalker all in 3. losing the MSC during an attack If he made 1 reaper instead of 4 he would have maybe 2 extra maraduers but Parting would mine faster from his natural and have 3 extra stalkers. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On February 09 2014 20:48 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Yes the whole problem is that terran is forced to prepare for everything and cannot even make 1 different unit while protoss can just do whatever they feel like. That ís the problem right there. Fast scout to see what all in is coming, blind 4 early marines vs MSC blind Fast ebay in case of DT/Oracle blind Room in the build for 4 bunkers vs Blink blind Fast Stim in case of frontal push fast upgrades because Protoss has cheaper and 33% faster upgrades and you can't fall too far behind Oh, by the way, while you are at it, make sure you have medivacs out at 10 minutes because you NEED to deal damage to Protoss because the game is "assymetrically balanced" and that is the time you need to get a lead. Did I already say that you need to have all these things in your build Blindly while protoss does whatever the fuck he wants and usually doesn't even bother scouting anymore? | ||
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jekku
Canada1640 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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YyapSsap
New Zealand1511 Posts
On February 09 2014 20:51 FFW_Rude wrote: Maru and TY stopped this build in Round1 And how many have failed? | ||
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Muffloe
Sweden6061 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On February 09 2014 20:51 Micro_Jackson wrote: What makes me think is the fact that Maru choose a super agressive opening and the correct respond to it is to send your early game defensive unit across the map. That feels kinda wrong for me. Anyway Parting played very well especially his immortal allin against Rogou looked very impressive. The MSC is not a defensive unit. It's a poorly thought out band-aid "fix everything" unit that was added because blizzard didn't want to put any effort into fixing protoss. So they just made a new unit that did everything. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
You asked a question. I answered. | ||
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Wintex
Norway16846 Posts
On February 09 2014 20:52 jekku wrote: The thing with ppl saying maru screwed up, he may have a bit but heres the problem. Protoss can screw up early builds and still defend because the momma core overcharge. With terran it seems like if you make ONE mistake and its gg. Its not really a fair standard when one race can afford to make mistakes when another can't make ANY. No This is an arena to discuss the games. Not an arena to discuss balance. Using this game as a focus point while we discuss is crucial, because these complaints should be directed to a different part of the forum. | ||
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juvenal
2448 Posts
On February 09 2014 20:53 Muffloe wrote: LoL, what happened here. Should we really blame balance when we know that PartinG is an execution beast? assuming maru isn't? | ||
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AaronChance
29 Posts
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
As far as I remember he played against 3 gate blink into DT on Yeonsu. So he didn't play against this build he played against minimal blink commitment into fast DTs | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On February 09 2014 20:53 Muffloe wrote: LoL, what happened here. Should we really blame balance when we know that PartinG is an execution beast? Are we calling clicking your MSC to the terran base and not controlling it 'execution beast' if you are Protoss? | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On February 09 2014 20:55 Qwerty85 wrote: As far as I remember he played against 3 gate blink into DT on Yeonsu. So he didn't play against this build he played against minimal blink commitment into fast DTs Really ? So that was Maru that stopped it 2times on Yeonsu ? Or another Terran ? i have bad memory. I know that happened but i'm not sure of the players | ||
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jekku
Canada1640 Posts
On February 09 2014 20:54 Wintex wrote: No This is an arena to discuss the games. Not an arena to discuss balance. Using this game as a focus point while we discuss is crucial, because these complaints should be directed to a different part of the forum. I'm addressing what other palyers are saying in this forum and why I disagree with them. I'm entitled to do that. | ||
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DaRKMaTT3r
Brazil553 Posts
On February 09 2014 20:53 Muffloe wrote: LoL, what happened here. Should we really blame balance when we know that PartinG is an execution beast? And maru's control is chobo level. >.> They are quite at the top of their perspective races and they are both known for their micro/execution. Parting has no advantage there, aside from the race he chose to play. User was warned for this post | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On February 09 2014 20:52 jekku wrote: The thing with ppl saying maru screwed up, he may have a bit but heres the problem. Protoss can screw up early builds and still defend because the momma core overcharge. With terran it seems like if you make ONE mistake and its gg. Its not really a fair standard when one race can afford to make mistakes when another can't make ANY. User was warned for this post Care to share the reason of that warning 0.0? | ||
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