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Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
February 09 2014 11:42 GMT
#1061
On February 09 2014 20:40 thirtyapm wrote:
actually as dumb was that was, tvp is still more watchable than pvp and pvz

yeah that's where the state of the game is at

lol wut?
What's wrong about PvP?
And PvZ is awesome, when played by Koreans (not the turtle style from EU ladder, but that can be broken easily by Korean protosses).
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
February 09 2014 11:42 GMT
#1062
On February 09 2014 20:41 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:39 ujonecro wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:35 ujonecro wrote:
Cant stop lauging at all protoss players in this thread trying to make it sound as Maru screwed up when Major already stated that the opening was a COUNTER to Partings build.


Did you watched that game ?

Maru did 4 reapears. He could have built marauders instead or even marines. He lost 6 scv to the moma core, lost his 4reapears...

I'm sorry but Maru lost because he wasn't enough prepared.



Wasnt prepared? 3 bunker? Its fucking disgusting if you cant stop a scouted all in with 3 bunkers while its not even an all in at all for protos.

3 bunkers with no marauder, if not intensively repaired there is no way it can hold.

I counted 12-15 ish marines and 3 marauders, 4 bunkers and 6 prepulled SCVs when the first fighting happened.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
February 09 2014 11:42 GMT
#1063
On February 09 2014 20:41 Zygno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:39 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:39 ujonecro wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:35 ujonecro wrote:
Cant stop lauging at all protoss players in this thread trying to make it sound as Maru screwed up when Major already stated that the opening was a COUNTER to Partings build.


Did you watched that game ?

Maru did 4 reapears. He could have built marauders instead or even marines. He lost 6 scv to the moma core, lost his 4reapears...

I'm sorry but Maru lost because he wasn't enough prepared.



Wasnt prepared? 3 bunker? Its fucking disgusting if you cant stop a scouted all in with 3 bunkers while its not even an all in at all for protos.


Bunkers are useless when you don't have units inside...

Come on i'm gold and i can't see that Maru had a bad opening against this.


He had 4 bunkers if i recall correctly. And the ones where parting attacked had units in it.


Bunker at bottom had one unit in. But the moma core and 4th repears were deciding i think.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18415 Posts
February 09 2014 11:42 GMT
#1064
On February 09 2014 20:41 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:32 Penev wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I literally hate protoss. There was NOTHING maru could have done.

Not build 4 reapers.


On reactor first opening building 2 reapers is pretty much standard, so are you trying to say if he had 2 extra marines instead of the 2 extra reapers he would have held that all in? because it wont delay the extra barracks, because mineral wise marines and reapers cost the same and the extra gas doesnt delay the tech unless you are opening 1/1/1.


but reapers take longer to build
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
February 09 2014 11:42 GMT
#1065
On February 09 2014 20:41 ujonecro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:40 Wintex wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:39 ujonecro wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:35 ujonecro wrote:
Cant stop lauging at all protoss players in this thread trying to make it sound as Maru screwed up when Major already stated that the opening was a COUNTER to Partings build.


Did you watched that game ?

Maru did 4 reapears. He could have built marauders instead or even marines. He lost 6 scv to the moma core, lost his 4reapears...

I'm sorry but Maru lost because he wasn't enough prepared.



Wasnt prepared? 3 bunker? Its fucking disgusting if you cant stop a scouted all in with 3 bunkers while its not even an all in at all for protos.

Bunker placement was less than optimal, he had no units because his transition took too long and a MSC killed 5 units or so..

Come on.


Parting lost probes and stalkers. Thats optimal??????????? Or i forgot protos doesnt have to play optimal. They have DK.

The first units made are very crucial, and when you go reapers and lose them THAT's non-optimal.

Come on. Zealously, you know what to do.
The Bomber boy
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 09 2014 11:43 GMT
#1066
On February 09 2014 20:40 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:39 ujonecro wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:35 ujonecro wrote:
Cant stop lauging at all protoss players in this thread trying to make it sound as Maru screwed up when Major already stated that the opening was a COUNTER to Partings build.


Did you watched that game ?

Maru did 4 reapears. He could have built marauders instead or even marines. He lost 6 scv to the moma core, lost his 4reapears...

I'm sorry but Maru lost because he wasn't enough prepared.



Wasnt prepared? 3 bunker? Its fucking disgusting if you cant stop a scouted all in with 3 bunkers while its not even an all in at all for protos.

Bunker placement was less than optimal, he had no units because his transition took too long and a MSC killed 5 units or so..

Come on.


Yeah bunker should have been 5 pixels to the right. Then he would hold :D
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
February 09 2014 11:43 GMT
#1067
On February 09 2014 20:41 ujonecro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:40 Wintex wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:39 ujonecro wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:35 ujonecro wrote:
Cant stop lauging at all protoss players in this thread trying to make it sound as Maru screwed up when Major already stated that the opening was a COUNTER to Partings build.


Did you watched that game ?

Maru did 4 reapears. He could have built marauders instead or even marines. He lost 6 scv to the moma core, lost his 4reapears...

I'm sorry but Maru lost because he wasn't enough prepared.



Wasnt prepared? 3 bunker? Its fucking disgusting if you cant stop a scouted all in with 3 bunkers while its not even an all in at all for protos.

Bunker placement was less than optimal, he had no units because his transition took too long and a MSC killed 5 units or so..

Come on.


Parting lost probes and stalkers. Thats optimal??????????? Or i forgot protos doesnt have to play optimal. They have DK.

calm down :D
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
SSVnormandy
Profile Joined July 2012
France392 Posts
February 09 2014 11:43 GMT
#1068
Look guys even the commentators are really pissed about this you can heard that they were so pissed on the after match they just used diplomatic words like "terrans are really struggling in korea right now" the diplomatic traduction of : "please do something i'm really bored to comment an abusive strat as the 2 base blink allin"
Battlecruisers.... Just Battlecruisers...
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
February 09 2014 11:43 GMT
#1069
On February 09 2014 20:42 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:41 samurai80 wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:39 ujonecro wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:35 ujonecro wrote:
Cant stop lauging at all protoss players in this thread trying to make it sound as Maru screwed up when Major already stated that the opening was a COUNTER to Partings build.


Did you watched that game ?

Maru did 4 reapears. He could have built marauders instead or even marines. He lost 6 scv to the moma core, lost his 4reapears...

I'm sorry but Maru lost because he wasn't enough prepared.



Wasnt prepared? 3 bunker? Its fucking disgusting if you cant stop a scouted all in with 3 bunkers while its not even an all in at all for protos.

3 bunkers with no marauder, if not intensively repaired there is no way it can hold.

I counted 12-15 ish marines and 3 marauders, 4 bunkers and 6 prepulled SCVs when the first fighting happened.


I feel you counted wrong with marines and prepulled SCVs, but I am not 100% sure.
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
February 09 2014 11:44 GMT
#1070
dont forget his next 2 rax was delayed thanks to mama flying hero. fanciful micro is shit when 2 reapers could have been marines to repel mama instead
DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
February 09 2014 11:44 GMT
#1071
Jimmies really rustled in this thread.

With great reason, I might add.
Disciples of a god, that neither lives nor breathes.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
February 09 2014 11:44 GMT
#1072
On February 09 2014 20:42 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:41 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:32 Penev wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I literally hate protoss. There was NOTHING maru could have done.

Not build 4 reapers.


On reactor first opening building 2 reapers is pretty much standard, so are you trying to say if he had 2 extra marines instead of the 2 extra reapers he would have held that all in? because it wont delay the extra barracks, because mineral wise marines and reapers cost the same and the extra gas doesnt delay the tech unless you are opening 1/1/1.


but reapers take longer to build


Yeah that also. It prevented him to have enough units too. Reactor + 4 reaper. It's quite a long building time.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
February 09 2014 11:44 GMT
#1073
On February 09 2014 20:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:40 Wintex wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:39 ujonecro wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:35 ujonecro wrote:
Cant stop lauging at all protoss players in this thread trying to make it sound as Maru screwed up when Major already stated that the opening was a COUNTER to Partings build.


Did you watched that game ?

Maru did 4 reapears. He could have built marauders instead or even marines. He lost 6 scv to the moma core, lost his 4reapears...

I'm sorry but Maru lost because he wasn't enough prepared.



Wasnt prepared? 3 bunker? Its fucking disgusting if you cant stop a scouted all in with 3 bunkers while its not even an all in at all for protos.

Bunker placement was less than optimal, he had no units because his transition took too long and a MSC killed 5 units or so..

Come on.


Yeah bunker should have been 5 pixels to the right. Then he would hold :D

Placement of production and bunkers is actually quite important to holding.
The Bomber boy
bertu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil871 Posts
February 09 2014 11:44 GMT
#1074
On February 09 2014 20:41 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:32 Penev wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I literally hate protoss. There was NOTHING maru could have done.

Not build 4 reapers.


On reactor first opening building 2 reapers is pretty much standard, so are you trying to say if he had 2 extra marines instead of the 2 extra reapers he would have held that all in? because it wont delay the extra barracks, because mineral wise marines and reapers cost the same and the extra gas doesnt delay the tech unless you are opening 1/1/1.


Extra marines would have helped against losing 7 units to MSC, yes.
SEKO SEKO SEKO
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 09 2014 11:44 GMT
#1075
On February 09 2014 20:39 ujonecro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:35 ujonecro wrote:
Cant stop lauging at all protoss players in this thread trying to make it sound as Maru screwed up when Major already stated that the opening was a COUNTER to Partings build.


Did you watched that game ?

Maru did 4 reapears. He could have built marauders instead or even marines. He lost 6 scv to the moma core, lost his 4reapears...

I'm sorry but Maru lost because he wasn't enough prepared.



Wasnt prepared? 3 bunker? Its fucking disgusting if you cant stop a scouted all in with 3 bunkers while its not even an all in at all for protos.

Bunkers dont shoot. You need units inside.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
ujonecro
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom846 Posts
February 09 2014 11:45 GMT
#1076
On February 09 2014 20:42 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:41 ujonecro wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:40 Wintex wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:39 ujonecro wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:35 ujonecro wrote:
Cant stop lauging at all protoss players in this thread trying to make it sound as Maru screwed up when Major already stated that the opening was a COUNTER to Partings build.


Did you watched that game ?

Maru did 4 reapears. He could have built marauders instead or even marines. He lost 6 scv to the moma core, lost his 4reapears...

I'm sorry but Maru lost because he wasn't enough prepared.



Wasnt prepared? 3 bunker? Its fucking disgusting if you cant stop a scouted all in with 3 bunkers while its not even an all in at all for protos.

Bunker placement was less than optimal, he had no units because his transition took too long and a MSC killed 5 units or so..

Come on.


Parting lost probes and stalkers. Thats optimal??????????? Or i forgot protos doesnt have to play optimal. They have DK.

The first units made are very crucial, and when you go reapers and lose them THAT's non-optimal.

Come on. Zealously, you know what to do.


Wow you are pretty pathetic. Running out of arguments so you call your circlejerk friends for ban.

Parting lost probes and stalkers - his FIRST units (optimal?). I dont think so. But it doesnt matter since protos doesnt have to play optimal.
RookUK
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United Kingdom283 Posts
February 09 2014 11:45 GMT
#1077
I'm glad I spared myself watching the end of that. It was always going to be a long shot for Green Wings, but it's hard to see it go this badly. Well played PartinG.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-09 11:48:13
February 09 2014 11:45 GMT
#1078
Misspost
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
February 09 2014 11:45 GMT
#1079
Damn, this LR thread sure turned into a shitstorm rather quickly, time to migrate to the balance discussion threads.

Anyway congrats to SKT1, now time to see how they match up against Samsung.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
SSVnormandy
Profile Joined July 2012
France392 Posts
February 09 2014 11:45 GMT
#1080
Mothership core really need 3 things to end the abuse :

-reduce by half his DPS : this unit shouldnt do any dmg really. This would allow some kind of aggression from terran

- reduce the vision range

- reduce the cast range to PO at 2

this would probably help to fix the damn unit.

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