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one-one-one
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden551 Posts
February 09 2014 11:39 GMT
#1041
On February 09 2014 20:33 ZenithM wrote:
The thing is, even the start of the game was really representative of how the races are played. Maru did some flashy cool micro and killed ONE stalker, then lost all his units. Meanwhile, PartinG let a flying hero unit hover in Maru's main and it got 6 kills. From there it was an easy PartinG win.



Yeah.

Exactly this!!!

People need to realize that it wasn't about losing 4 reapers. The damage was already done. To pressure protoss you need to commit to a pressure build that is attached with a certain risk and then get your micro down fucking precisely.

As protoss you can have a normal build and still punish a terran who is microing his heart out by simply hovering your MSC over his mineral line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1BFY4R7IIP4#t=1710s
askmc70
Profile Joined March 2012
United States722 Posts
February 09 2014 11:40 GMT
#1042
On February 09 2014 20:39 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:38 askmc70 wrote:
maru didn't even pull scvs to repair, stop the fucking whining already.


You mean pull at least 4 of them by each bunker?
Goodbye economy I guess

would you rather die then?
thirtyapm
Profile Joined January 2012
521 Posts
February 09 2014 11:40 GMT
#1043
actually as dumb was that was, tvp is still more watchable than pvp and pvz

yeah that's where the state of the game is at
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
February 09 2014 11:40 GMT
#1044
On February 09 2014 20:39 ujonecro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:35 ujonecro wrote:
Cant stop lauging at all protoss players in this thread trying to make it sound as Maru screwed up when Major already stated that the opening was a COUNTER to Partings build.


Did you watched that game ?

Maru did 4 reapears. He could have built marauders instead or even marines. He lost 6 scv to the moma core, lost his 4reapears...

I'm sorry but Maru lost because he wasn't enough prepared.



Wasnt prepared? 3 bunker? Its fucking disgusting if you cant stop a scouted all in with 3 bunkers while its not even an all in at all for protos.

Bunker placement was less than optimal, he had no units because his transition took too long and a MSC killed 5 units or so..

Come on.
The Bomber boy
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16127 Posts
February 09 2014 11:40 GMT
#1045
On February 09 2014 20:37 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:35 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:34 Zygno wrote:
Watching TvP is so frustrating nowadays.


I'd still rather watch TvP over the shit shows that are ZvP and PvP these days. That's how bad those match ups are.

Lol, at this rate TvZ also will mutate into terran turtle sky. Then we have a problem i guess.


It won't.

This mass Mutalisk metagame that's developing in Korea is going to prevent that from happening. Go watch Innovation vs Soulkey from the IEM Katowice qualifiers to see what I mean.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
February 09 2014 11:40 GMT
#1046
I'm a Terran player, and I'd say making 4 reapers and losing them all while barely doing damage would be what caused Maru to lose that game. 4 reapers is a huge investment on gas which would've gone towards anything else that would be much more useful, and losing them all while not even managing to deal damage to Parting's economy basically sealed his fate in my opinion.
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YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
February 09 2014 11:40 GMT
#1047
The more hilarious thing is that... that wasn't even an all in by parting.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-09 11:41:15
February 09 2014 11:40 GMT
#1048
People always find an excuse why terran loses to blink all ins. I still again blame the coach for not sending Maru earlier but on the best blink map in the map pool. I saw so many variations of terran on that map, even tanks etc., getting complete scouts but blink still wins on SS every time.

And now I am waiting for coach white knights to jump all over me.
kckkryptonite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1126 Posts
February 09 2014 11:40 GMT
#1049
On February 09 2014 20:33 covetousrat wrote:
Failed cheese from Maru and got counter cheesed...


I agree, blink is a very niche counter-cheese TvP build and Parting must've done it in response to the 4 reapers.
RIP avilo, qxc keyboard 2013, RIP Nathanis keyboard 2014
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
February 09 2014 11:40 GMT
#1050
On February 09 2014 20:37 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:36 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:33 MajOr wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:32 mizU wrote:
everyone saying protoss imba?
lol, maru played terribly, he deserved to lose

4 reapers

stfu plz he did the most absurd b.o counter to bstalker all in and he still lost 4 reaper > bstalker all in ion maps like this

Yes, Mothership Core killed 6 units, while his 4 Reapers got 1 Stalker and than he lost all of them. No, I don't think it was good play by Maru.

He got 2 stalkers, stopped mining at the natural, and killed like 3 probes

Ok, 2 Stalkers and 3 Probes for 4 Reapers and 7 SCVs/Marines, you tell me what is better. I am not going to argue if this attack is too strong/imbalanced/whatever, I just think that Maru didn't play that as well as he could do it.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
February 09 2014 11:40 GMT
#1051
On February 09 2014 20:39 ujonecro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:35 ujonecro wrote:
Cant stop lauging at all protoss players in this thread trying to make it sound as Maru screwed up when Major already stated that the opening was a COUNTER to Partings build.


Did you watched that game ?

Maru did 4 reapears. He could have built marauders instead or even marines. He lost 6 scv to the moma core, lost his 4reapears...

I'm sorry but Maru lost because he wasn't enough prepared.



Wasnt prepared? 3 bunker? Its fucking disgusting if you cant stop a scouted all in with 3 bunkers while its not even an all in at all for protos.

Not if you throw away 4 reapers and 6 scv's. Not saying I like the match up at the moment btw and I'm not a protoss.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-09 11:41:08
February 09 2014 11:40 GMT
#1052
On February 09 2014 20:40 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:39 ujonecro wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:35 ujonecro wrote:
Cant stop lauging at all protoss players in this thread trying to make it sound as Maru screwed up when Major already stated that the opening was a COUNTER to Partings build.


Did you watched that game ?

Maru did 4 reapears. He could have built marauders instead or even marines. He lost 6 scv to the moma core, lost his 4reapears...

I'm sorry but Maru lost because he wasn't enough prepared.



Wasnt prepared? 3 bunker? Its fucking disgusting if you cant stop a scouted all in with 3 bunkers while its not even an all in at all for protos.

Bunker placement was less than optimal, he had no units because his transition took too long and a MSC killed 5 units or so..

Come on.

The placement was pretty good actually, he set one at every spot where Parting could blink into. It's not like Blink does work only at one place.
ujonecro
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom846 Posts
February 09 2014 11:41 GMT
#1053
On February 09 2014 20:40 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:39 ujonecro wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:35 ujonecro wrote:
Cant stop lauging at all protoss players in this thread trying to make it sound as Maru screwed up when Major already stated that the opening was a COUNTER to Partings build.


Did you watched that game ?

Maru did 4 reapears. He could have built marauders instead or even marines. He lost 6 scv to the moma core, lost his 4reapears...

I'm sorry but Maru lost because he wasn't enough prepared.



Wasnt prepared? 3 bunker? Its fucking disgusting if you cant stop a scouted all in with 3 bunkers while its not even an all in at all for protos.

Bunker placement was less than optimal, he had no units because his transition took too long and a MSC killed 5 units or so..

Come on.


Parting lost probes and stalkers. Thats optimal??????????? Or i forgot protos doesnt have to play optimal. They have DK.

User was temp banned for this post.
Zygno
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria276 Posts
February 09 2014 11:41 GMT
#1054
On February 09 2014 20:39 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:39 ujonecro wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:35 ujonecro wrote:
Cant stop lauging at all protoss players in this thread trying to make it sound as Maru screwed up when Major already stated that the opening was a COUNTER to Partings build.


Did you watched that game ?

Maru did 4 reapears. He could have built marauders instead or even marines. He lost 6 scv to the moma core, lost his 4reapears...

I'm sorry but Maru lost because he wasn't enough prepared.



Wasnt prepared? 3 bunker? Its fucking disgusting if you cant stop a scouted all in with 3 bunkers while its not even an all in at all for protos.


Bunkers are useless when you don't have units inside...

Come on i'm gold and i can't see that Maru had a bad opening against this.


He had 4 bunkers if i recall correctly. And the ones where parting attacked had units in it.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 09 2014 11:41 GMT
#1055
On February 09 2014 20:37 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:36 Destructicon wrote:
Well, that went according to plan.
At least now all the Maru bandwagoning will also die. Or probably not, need to wait for him to flop out of his RO32 group in GSL.

Yeah, let's not have any Terrans left in GSL!

At least the Terran bandwagoning will stop!
DaRKMaTT3r
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil553 Posts
February 09 2014 11:41 GMT
#1056
On February 09 2014 20:32 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I literally hate protoss. There was NOTHING maru could have done.

Not build 4 reapers.


On reactor first opening building 2 reapers is pretty much standard, so are you trying to say if he had 2 extra marines instead of the 2 extra reapers he would have held that all in? because it wont delay the extra barracks, because mineral wise marines and reapers cost the same and the extra gas doesnt delay the tech unless you are opening 1/1/1.
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
February 09 2014 11:41 GMT
#1057
On February 09 2014 20:39 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:39 ujonecro wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:35 ujonecro wrote:
Cant stop lauging at all protoss players in this thread trying to make it sound as Maru screwed up when Major already stated that the opening was a COUNTER to Partings build.


Did you watched that game ?

Maru did 4 reapears. He could have built marauders instead or even marines. He lost 6 scv to the moma core, lost his 4reapears...

I'm sorry but Maru lost because he wasn't enough prepared.



Wasnt prepared? 3 bunker? Its fucking disgusting if you cant stop a scouted all in with 3 bunkers while its not even an all in at all for protos.


Bunkers are useless when you don't have units inside...

Come on i'm gold and i can't see that Maru had a bad opening against this.


Yeah, the number of bunkers isn't that important, especially when Maru's rax and bunkers were placed in such a way that only 1 bunker could defend his production (I know, they had to be like that or otherwise stalkers would get into mineral line, I guess you have to build your production closer to your cc or something)
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samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
February 09 2014 11:41 GMT
#1058
On February 09 2014 20:39 ujonecro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:35 ujonecro wrote:
Cant stop lauging at all protoss players in this thread trying to make it sound as Maru screwed up when Major already stated that the opening was a COUNTER to Partings build.


Did you watched that game ?

Maru did 4 reapears. He could have built marauders instead or even marines. He lost 6 scv to the moma core, lost his 4reapears...

I'm sorry but Maru lost because he wasn't enough prepared.



Wasnt prepared? 3 bunker? Its fucking disgusting if you cant stop a scouted all in with 3 bunkers while its not even an all in at all for protos.

3 bunkers with no marauder, if not intensively repaired there is no way it can hold.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
February 09 2014 11:41 GMT
#1059
On February 09 2014 20:40 askmc70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:39 Qwerty85 wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:38 askmc70 wrote:
maru didn't even pull scvs to repair, stop the fucking whining already.


You mean pull at least 4 of them by each bunker?
Goodbye economy I guess

would you rather die then?

Lol you die 2 minutes later xD
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ujonecro
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom846 Posts
February 09 2014 11:42 GMT
#1060
On February 09 2014 20:41 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 20:39 ujonecro wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 09 2014 20:35 ujonecro wrote:
Cant stop lauging at all protoss players in this thread trying to make it sound as Maru screwed up when Major already stated that the opening was a COUNTER to Partings build.


Did you watched that game ?

Maru did 4 reapears. He could have built marauders instead or even marines. He lost 6 scv to the moma core, lost his 4reapears...

I'm sorry but Maru lost because he wasn't enough prepared.



Wasnt prepared? 3 bunker? Its fucking disgusting if you cant stop a scouted all in with 3 bunkers while its not even an all in at all for protos.

3 bunkers with no marauder, if not intensively repaired there is no way it can hold.


Pretty balanced dont you think?
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