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Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
January 22 2014 11:19 GMT
#581
On January 22 2014 20:19 Ketch wrote:
Nice snipes on the HT by Innovation


Honestly more very sloppy contole
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
January 22 2014 11:20 GMT
#582
Haha, the fucking overcharge.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 22 2014 11:20 GMT
#583
Big Cancel.
I had a good night of sleep.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
January 22 2014 11:20 GMT
#584
On January 22 2014 20:19 Micro_Jackson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:19 Ketch wrote:
Nice snipes on the HT by Innovation


Honestly more very sloppy contole


Maybe, herO wanted to get the feedbacks off I guess
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
January 22 2014 11:20 GMT
#585
What was that CC cancel? Was it really that low health?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 22 2014 11:20 GMT
#586
On January 22 2014 20:20 Bagi wrote:
What was that CC cancel? Was it really that low health?


yeah.
Zest fanboy.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
January 22 2014 11:21 GMT
#587
Innovation is ahead in every way.

Loss inc 10 minutes.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 22 2014 11:21 GMT
#588
On January 22 2014 20:18 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:16 SpunXtain20 wrote:
Acer really need to recruit a high level protoss; its pretty clear that without Trap and Dear to train with Innovation is really struggling in the matchup... He's not making the right decisions.


I am sure he plays against a lot of high level protoss players on KR ladder. He can probably find a practice partner outside his team as well (like Soulkey practiced with Flash for his finals against Innovation).

IMHO P player on team is better choice and since there were some team trades of good P players... well, on the other hand I like only MMA from Acer, so why do I care?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 22 2014 11:21 GMT
#589
On January 22 2014 20:21 pure.Wasted wrote:
Innovation is ahead in every way.

Loss inc 10 minutes.


the double cancel on the 3rd hurts so bad.
Zest fanboy.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 22 2014 11:21 GMT
#590
On January 22 2014 20:18 SpunXtain20 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:15 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:13 SpunXtain20 wrote:
Innovation is playing vs protoss wrong...

You can't expect to win a straight up army war vs protoss. It just doesn't happen - once they get their tier 3, their splash damage is just too high.

You need to out-maneuvre them, harass them like crazy and edge out a lead before you fight. You can't rush head-on cause they'll always have nexus cannon advantage at home and splash damage will melt your bio. Need to pick away at the economy, tech buildings if you can, and slowly edge it out.

Trying to go MMM straight up vs templar armies just ain't going to work.


Medivacs are already so late cuz of blink pressure. And blink also makes drops very risky. Add to that HT and feedback, canons in mineral line, and it doesnt leave much room for drops and multi attacks


Honestly Innovation was late to realise when the aggression was over. He could have pushed those blink stalkers out a lot earlier and taken a much earlier third base and got his medivacs etc. up earlier I think. There was only 10-12 stalkers; granted they had blink but once he had 4 bunkers full of units he probably could have just pushed out maybe with a few SCVs if he didn't feel comfortable and secured his base. He needed to scout when the Protoss was transitioning earlier.


You are looking the game from everyone's view. Innovation can't possibly have all the necessary information to make such decision.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
January 22 2014 11:21 GMT
#591
Very greedy by Innovation to place the CC at low ground again. He has to know there's a pylon to the left of the map.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
January 22 2014 11:21 GMT
#592
On January 22 2014 20:16 SpunXtain20 wrote:
Acer really need to recruit a high level protoss; its pretty clear that without Trap and Dear to train with Innovation is really struggling in the matchup... He's not making the right decisions.


Never going to happen.
LiquipediaWanderer
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
January 22 2014 11:21 GMT
#593
How about stretching the stormduration from 4sec to 6sec....
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
January 22 2014 11:22 GMT
#594
On January 22 2014 20:17 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:12 Heartland wrote:
Okay, it's time for me to stop being a jerk now.


ye you type Starbow jesus but guess what Beasty lost finals against both Goody and Nerchio offracing protoss now what?


Haha, did that really happen? awesome


Yep. I think they were both sweeps too, 3-0 and 2-0. But they are good players with solid protoss experience so it's somewhat cool.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1415 Posts
January 22 2014 11:22 GMT
#595
can we just remove photon overcharge? it is just painful to see nobody being able to harass protoss.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
January 22 2014 11:22 GMT
#596
On January 22 2014 20:21 JoeCool wrote:
How about stretching the stormduration from 4sec to 6sec....

Don't touch the DPS though. Just make it last longer.
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
January 22 2014 11:23 GMT
#597
I wonder what happened to the robot who made Rain look like a complete scrub. He became human or something I guess
SpunXtain20
Profile Joined January 2014
Australia554 Posts
January 22 2014 11:23 GMT
#598
On January 22 2014 20:19 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:18 SpunXtain20 wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:15 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:13 SpunXtain20 wrote:
Innovation is playing vs protoss wrong...

You can't expect to win a straight up army war vs protoss. It just doesn't happen - once they get their tier 3, their splash damage is just too high.

You need to out-maneuvre them, harass them like crazy and edge out a lead before you fight. You can't rush head-on cause they'll always have nexus cannon advantage at home and splash damage will melt your bio. Need to pick away at the economy, tech buildings if you can, and slowly edge it out.

Trying to go MMM straight up vs templar armies just ain't going to work.


Medivacs are already so late cuz of blink pressure. And blink also makes drops very risky. Add to that HT and feedback, canons in mineral line, and it doesnt leave much room for drops and multi attacks


Honestly Innovation was late to realise when the aggression was over. He could have pushed those blink stalkers out a lot earlier and taken a much earlier third base and got his medivacs etc. up earlier I think. There was only 10-12 stalkers; granted they had blink but once he had 4 bunkers full of units he probably could have just pushed out maybe with a few SCVs if he didn't feel comfortable and secured his base. He needed to scout when the Protoss was transitioning earlier.


then herO warps 6more stalker, double time warp and without medivacs you die. Shut up please.


Bro I play Terran, I know it's hard against Protoss. But it's not impossible. TY and Maru have great win records vs protoss because they know that you need to either eek out and edge through some creative play, or put on so much pressure that the protoss can't really transition when they want to.

I have a horrible record vs toss too, partly cause I play cross-server and delay makes the micro-intensive battles really difficult, but Innovation has the apm and abilities to win these matches if he just makes slightly better decisions. herO played really well.
*Hugs all* | I came here to drink milk and kick asses, and I've just finished my milk.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
January 22 2014 11:23 GMT
#599
On January 22 2014 20:22 Tanzklaue wrote:
can we just remove photon overcharge? it is just painful to see nobody being able to harass protoss.


He just killed a nex o.o
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 22 2014 11:23 GMT
#600
On January 22 2014 20:22 Tanzklaue wrote:
can we just remove photon overcharge? it is just painful to see nobody being able to harass protoss.


tbh i'd rather have a time warp nerf. it would reduce P all in potential by so much.
Zest fanboy.
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