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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 20 2014 13:21 GMT
#1121
On January 20 2014 22:17 gedatsu wrote:
What was the first Maru vs Soulkey like? Stomp, even, somewhere inbetween?


small roach squad early game not doing to much vs maru who had claokless banshees. Maru then aggressively pushed SK third at 130 supply and destroyed it but SK saved all drones and moved them to newly made 4th. Maru kept killing 4th, then 3rd, then 4th again so SK was forced to switch bases all the time.

SK was counter attacking all game long with mutas and roaches while defending with SH. Over time SK managed to cripple Marus economy and he slowly made the mutaball bigger and bigger taking advantage of Marus lack of turret spam. Eventually SK had to good of an economy while Maru was never really able to max out and go for a reall kill push.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
January 20 2014 13:21 GMT
#1122
shoulda have send rain
RIP MKP
VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
January 20 2014 13:21 GMT
#1123
On January 20 2014 22:20 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 22:18 Doublemint wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:16 boxerfred wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:14 AxionSteel wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:14 boxerfred wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:08 Talionis wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:07 Caihead wrote:
blind star gates beats hidden spire is the moral of this story i guess >_>

The spire was a response to the triple stargates


How can a Zerg not respond to triple stargates with mass queens, infestor, swarmhosts :/


Looked more like a 5 swarmhost fake into attempt to surprise with mass mutas tbh.


Yep, that's what I thought, too. The game would've changed a lot if the MSC didn't recall with like 5hp or so, but with the need to defend his 4th (hidden) base, there was no way the mutas could deal enough damage before tiple stargate phoenix kicks in. And I feel like phoenixes can actually counter corruptors if sent out with range.


Yeah. But they better do for how much they cost.

So the point of corruptors, which cost the same amount as phoenixes, fly slower and are basically inferior in almost every other way then is...?


They also build 5 seconds slower!
Why can't I quit you, siege tank? FanTaSy, Mvp.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
January 20 2014 13:21 GMT
#1124
Been a while since i've seen Maru go 11/11
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
January 20 2014 13:22 GMT
#1125
On January 20 2014 22:20 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 22:18 Doublemint wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:16 boxerfred wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:14 AxionSteel wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:14 boxerfred wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:08 Talionis wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:07 Caihead wrote:
blind star gates beats hidden spire is the moral of this story i guess >_>

The spire was a response to the triple stargates


How can a Zerg not respond to triple stargates with mass queens, infestor, swarmhosts :/


Looked more like a 5 swarmhost fake into attempt to surprise with mass mutas tbh.


Yep, that's what I thought, too. The game would've changed a lot if the MSC didn't recall with like 5hp or so, but with the need to defend his 4th (hidden) base, there was no way the mutas could deal enough damage before tiple stargate phoenix kicks in. And I feel like phoenixes can actually counter corruptors if sent out with range.


Yeah. But they better do for how much they cost.

So the point of corruptors, which cost the same amount as phoenixes, fly slower and are basically inferior in almost every other way then is...?

Corrupters are pretty awful, but they're the sort of unit that can end a game if a parity is reached ie. roach/hydra army vs just a few collosus, or mutas infestor vs phoenixes
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
January 20 2014 13:22 GMT
#1126
has wolf ever predicted a build before a game? I keep hearing him say it could be ANYTHING, literally ANYTHING
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 20 2014 13:22 GMT
#1127
On January 20 2014 22:21 shid0x wrote:
shoulda have send rain

Soulkey probably has a better chance at winning against Maru overall than Rain
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Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 13:23:15
January 20 2014 13:23 GMT
#1128
Time to pay for your sins Soul-Key !!!!
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
January 20 2014 13:23 GMT
#1129
NO MECH PLS.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
January 20 2014 13:23 GMT
#1130
Corruptors fight Massive air units. That's their role.
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
January 20 2014 13:23 GMT
#1131
Soulkey gonna make the fangirls wet
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with tears from seeing their dear Maru get thrashed
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
January 20 2014 13:23 GMT
#1132
On January 20 2014 22:22 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 22:21 shid0x wrote:
shoulda have send rain

Soulkey probably has a better chance at winning against Maru overall than Rain


Rain vs Maru is always so good.

But so is SK vs Maru!
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
January 20 2014 13:23 GMT
#1133
On January 20 2014 22:21 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 22:17 bo1b wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:16 boxerfred wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:14 AxionSteel wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:14 boxerfred wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:08 Talionis wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:07 Caihead wrote:
blind star gates beats hidden spire is the moral of this story i guess >_>

The spire was a response to the triple stargates


How can a Zerg not respond to triple stargates with mass queens, infestor, swarmhosts :/


Looked more like a 5 swarmhost fake into attempt to surprise with mass mutas tbh.


Yep, that's what I thought, too. The game would've changed a lot if the MSC didn't recall with like 5hp or so, but with the need to defend his 4th (hidden) base, there was no way the mutas could deal enough damage before tiple stargate phoenix kicks in. And I feel like phoenixes can actually counter corruptors if sent out with range.

I don't think corrupters are good against air units that can shoot back, so it's not too surprising to see a fast moving unit which outranges corrupters winning fights with some micro involved.


Corruptors are horrible against everything except collosus and carriers ^^


They are quite horrible against Carriers with enough upgrades and mass.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
January 20 2014 13:23 GMT
#1134
On January 20 2014 22:20 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 22:18 Doublemint wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:16 boxerfred wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:14 AxionSteel wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:14 boxerfred wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:08 Talionis wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:07 Caihead wrote:
blind star gates beats hidden spire is the moral of this story i guess >_>

The spire was a response to the triple stargates


How can a Zerg not respond to triple stargates with mass queens, infestor, swarmhosts :/


Looked more like a 5 swarmhost fake into attempt to surprise with mass mutas tbh.


Yep, that's what I thought, too. The game would've changed a lot if the MSC didn't recall with like 5hp or so, but with the need to defend his 4th (hidden) base, there was no way the mutas could deal enough damage before tiple stargate phoenix kicks in. And I feel like phoenixes can actually counter corruptors if sent out with range.


Yeah. But they better do for how much they cost.

So the point of corruptors, which cost the same amount as phoenixes, fly slower and are basically inferior in almost every other way then is...?

How dare you!?
Corruptors are the best unit in the game, and my favorite unit... It was even my favorite unit in Brood War, I love those guys! If you don't like Corruptors, you are not true Zerg player, and you are dead to me...
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
January 20 2014 13:23 GMT
#1135
Maru gonna kick Sulky´s ass.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
January 20 2014 13:23 GMT
#1136
On January 20 2014 22:23 ZenithM wrote:
NO MECH PLS.

He cant hear you , dark side of mech too strong!
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
January 20 2014 13:23 GMT
#1137
Muh-roo.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 20 2014 13:23 GMT
#1138
Proleague: Jin Air vs SKT

(T)Maru vs (Z)Soulkey
2-2


Map: The King Sejong Station


Maru spawns in the top left
Soulkey spawns in the bottom right
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
January 20 2014 13:24 GMT
#1139
On January 20 2014 22:20 Pangpootata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 22:19 boxerfred wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:17 bo1b wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:16 boxerfred wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:14 AxionSteel wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:14 boxerfred wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:08 Talionis wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:07 Caihead wrote:
blind star gates beats hidden spire is the moral of this story i guess >_>

The spire was a response to the triple stargates


How can a Zerg not respond to triple stargates with mass queens, infestor, swarmhosts :/


Looked more like a 5 swarmhost fake into attempt to surprise with mass mutas tbh.


Yep, that's what I thought, too. The game would've changed a lot if the MSC didn't recall with like 5hp or so, but with the need to defend his 4th (hidden) base, there was no way the mutas could deal enough damage before tiple stargate phoenix kicks in. And I feel like phoenixes can actually counter corruptors if sent out with range.

I don't think corrupters are good against air units that can shoot back, so it's not too surprising to see a fast moving unit which outranges corrupters winning fights with some micro involved.


Pretty much this. Ever since WoL I think that the only purpose for corruptors is being morphed into brood lords. I mean, why in the hell would you ever play corruptors? Right, when you can't reach vipers. That's pretty much it (regarding zvp). They're just a bad unit, though I think corruption is a nice spell, with as much potential as contaminate ... lol

To fight vikings so you can get air superiority against a meching terran. It's quite important.
Or to fight airtoss as an alternative to vipers.

Zerg doesn't have "air superiority" vs a meching terran unless they enter that stage of the game with zerg hideously ahead.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8483 Posts
January 20 2014 13:24 GMT
#1140
On January 20 2014 22:20 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 22:18 Doublemint wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:16 boxerfred wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:14 AxionSteel wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:14 boxerfred wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:08 Talionis wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:07 Caihead wrote:
blind star gates beats hidden spire is the moral of this story i guess >_>

The spire was a response to the triple stargates


How can a Zerg not respond to triple stargates with mass queens, infestor, swarmhosts :/


Looked more like a 5 swarmhost fake into attempt to surprise with mass mutas tbh.


Yep, that's what I thought, too. The game would've changed a lot if the MSC didn't recall with like 5hp or so, but with the need to defend his 4th (hidden) base, there was no way the mutas could deal enough damage before tiple stargate phoenix kicks in. And I feel like phoenixes can actually counter corruptors if sent out with range.


Yeah. But they better do for how much they cost.

So the point of corruptors, which cost the same amount as phoenixes, fly slower and are basically inferior in almost every other way then is...?


They corrupt ground units.

On January 20 2014 22:21 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 22:20 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:18 Doublemint wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:16 boxerfred wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:14 AxionSteel wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:14 boxerfred wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:08 Talionis wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:07 Caihead wrote:
blind star gates beats hidden spire is the moral of this story i guess >_>

The spire was a response to the triple stargates


How can a Zerg not respond to triple stargates with mass queens, infestor, swarmhosts :/


Looked more like a 5 swarmhost fake into attempt to surprise with mass mutas tbh.


Yep, that's what I thought, too. The game would've changed a lot if the MSC didn't recall with like 5hp or so, but with the need to defend his 4th (hidden) base, there was no way the mutas could deal enough damage before tiple stargate phoenix kicks in. And I feel like phoenixes can actually counter corruptors if sent out with range.


Yeah. But they better do for how much they cost.

So the point of corruptors, which cost the same amount as phoenixes, fly slower and are basically inferior in every other way then is...?

Kill colossi, die horribly and getting made fun of in LR threads.


And this.
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