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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
January 07 2014 13:17 GMT
#561
On January 07 2014 22:13 Ravomat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 22:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 07 2014 22:08 Ravomat wrote:
On January 07 2014 22:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Gigantic blink/archon semi all in incoming

Someone mind explaining to me what that is? I'm trying to figure that out for almost 4 years now. Sounds like a simple push to me.


It means he doesn't have to kill zerg but has to do some sort of damage

Sounds like playing out the game with maximum infrastructure for his economy. I mean it's obvious that if he loses everything for free, he is done for. I mean I guess this term works, I'm just not liking it.


I think it's alright for the lack of a better term. If you don't do the sort of damage you're setting out for by committing to the attack, you'll be pushed behind by the consequences. Like say a blink/archon/charge 3 base timing would delay robotics/stargate tech for very long which will give you trouble dealing with an ultralisk army, taking a 4th base and dealing with tech switches. So you'd really have to get some damage in.

It may or may not have been Zest's plan this game, he did hit a (too late) timing but had 3/2 started behind it and got 2 robotics facilities up so he was at least set up to transition.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 07 2014 13:17 GMT
#562
On January 07 2014 22:15 Faruko wrote:
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On January 07 2014 22:14 Qwerty85 wrote:
Seriously, what is up with protoss in Proleague, they started so bad this season both against terran and zerg. And nothing changed.

DK balance map has some secret Jedi powers or what?

Just loot at the great ones, Parting 3-0, Rain 2-1, Jila 2-1 (sOs 0-3 !!!!)... Proleague thinks that the race its far more powerful than the players themself lol


Yeah that is kind of true. Only top tier terrans like Maru, Flash and TY really come out in Proleague. At the same time, there is so many protoss players that are nowhere near Dear or Rain level.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 07 2014 13:17 GMT
#563
On January 07 2014 22:14 Big J wrote:
So Zergs and Terrans are stomping Protoss. Time for a nerf, Protoss.


Yeah its not individuals playing against other individuals. Flash vs emotion.... yeah this emotion guy is a legend... Solar beat sOs twice already, and I even think he used ultras in one or both games. Solar was favored against Zest. And so on and so on
MrLightning
Profile Joined September 2013
306 Posts
January 07 2014 13:18 GMT
#564
Why field protoss at all? Its just an instant loss. Protoss should be banned from proleague so that it is eventually removed from the game.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 07 2014 13:18 GMT
#565
On January 07 2014 22:17 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 22:15 TheDwf wrote:
On January 07 2014 22:15 Nouar wrote:
On January 07 2014 22:10 Pangpootata wrote:
On January 07 2014 22:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 07 2014 22:08 Ravomat wrote:
On January 07 2014 22:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Gigantic blink/archon semi all in incoming

Someone mind explaining to me what that is? I'm trying to figure that out for almost 4 years now. Sounds like a simple push to me.


It means he doesn't have to kill zerg but has to do some sort of damage

That's called an eehan timing


hmmm no. eehan is more like when there is ONE timing you can use, either when you were behind, or seconds before a new type of units arrives, and at that exact timing you have the advantage, otherwise you're kind of screwed...

Like Flash vs eMotion, for instance.


I think Flash could have moved out earlier, so the timing window was larger than an ee han timing might allow for.

Well, he was waiting for his 3 Ghosts and +2 attack, so technically his window was not that large until the completion of Storm.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
January 07 2014 13:18 GMT
#566
Such a god.
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
January 07 2014 13:19 GMT
#567
Its true. Imagine if all the Terrans below Maru/Flash/TY starts playing.. *shudders*
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 13:19:45
January 07 2014 13:19 GMT
#568
On January 07 2014 22:18 MrLightning wrote:
Why field protoss at all? Its just an instant loss. Protoss should be banned from proleague so that it is eventually removed from the game.


And by "instant" you mean "when the game ends"?
AdministratorBreak the chains
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
January 07 2014 13:19 GMT
#569
Multitasking is the skill of the Chosen Ones.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 07 2014 13:19 GMT
#570
Let us hope for no dumb build order interaction.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 07 2014 13:19 GMT
#571
My "Protoss imba" or "4/6 P main team" strategy is not working out .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
ottosec
Profile Joined April 2013
505 Posts
January 07 2014 13:19 GMT
#572
Please TY win or my team is fucked :-s
SKT1-PartinG&Rain, MC
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
January 07 2014 13:19 GMT
#573
On January 07 2014 22:18 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 22:17 Heartland wrote:
On January 07 2014 22:15 TheDwf wrote:
On January 07 2014 22:15 Nouar wrote:
On January 07 2014 22:10 Pangpootata wrote:
On January 07 2014 22:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 07 2014 22:08 Ravomat wrote:
On January 07 2014 22:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Gigantic blink/archon semi all in incoming

Someone mind explaining to me what that is? I'm trying to figure that out for almost 4 years now. Sounds like a simple push to me.


It means he doesn't have to kill zerg but has to do some sort of damage

That's called an eehan timing


hmmm no. eehan is more like when there is ONE timing you can use, either when you were behind, or seconds before a new type of units arrives, and at that exact timing you have the advantage, otherwise you're kind of screwed...

Like Flash vs eMotion, for instance.


I think Flash could have moved out earlier, so the timing window was larger than an ee han timing might allow for.

Well, he was waiting for his 3 Ghosts and +2 attack, so technically his window was not that large until the completion of Storm.


Yeah, I guess that might be true. I usually just think of it as a very, very prepared build to hit another typical build. Like that classic JD vs Stork (?) game where he flies in with his mutas seconds before the corsair group gets too big.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
January 07 2014 13:20 GMT
#574
Please don't 11/11 or something. I need an epic TvT.
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
January 07 2014 13:20 GMT
#575
On January 07 2014 22:15 Nouar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 22:10 Pangpootata wrote:
On January 07 2014 22:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 07 2014 22:08 Ravomat wrote:
On January 07 2014 22:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Gigantic blink/archon semi all in incoming

Someone mind explaining to me what that is? I'm trying to figure that out for almost 4 years now. Sounds like a simple push to me.


It means he doesn't have to kill zerg but has to do some sort of damage

That's called an eehan timing


hmmm no. eehan is more like when there is ONE timing you can use, either when you were behind, or seconds before a new type of units arrives, and at that exact timing you have the advantage, otherwise you're kind of screwed...

Solar had immense creep spread and Zest was confined to 3 bases with no collosus tech. He only had one attack to make it work, but sadly he didn't succeed.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 07 2014 13:20 GMT
#576
My FPL team is already screwed because I cant get rid of ByuL on anti anymore. So now I just want to see KT lose
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
January 07 2014 13:20 GMT
#577
Ace match Ace match Ace match.

KT team got to be as strong as SKT T1. With Flash & TY.
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
January 07 2014 13:21 GMT
#578
Don't think I've seen TY play a TvT since before the Hellbat nerf. I wonder how this will turn out.
Flash | Mvp
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 07 2014 13:21 GMT
#579
On January 07 2014 22:20 AxionSteel wrote:
Please don't 11/11 or something. I need an epic TvT.


Too late! TY already practiced his 11/11 all day yesterday :o
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
January 07 2014 13:21 GMT
#580
Kespa loves the Bizkit.
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