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Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
January 05 2014 13:34 GMT
#501
Obligatory

[image loading]

(so glad I took Reality of my antiteam ^^)
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
GreenFate
Profile Joined March 2011
France289 Posts
January 05 2014 13:34 GMT
#502
On January 05 2014 22:32 Woizit wrote:
I thought Reality was absolutely dead from the mid-game. Terrans just seem invincible today I guess.


Well Hydra made many mistakes. He never splitted corrupters against HSM, he didn't split BL to press on the north front at the same time, he never made vipers (well that may not have been a good idea, but he could have tried).
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
January 05 2014 13:34 GMT
#503
On January 05 2014 22:33 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 22:32 stuchiu wrote:
On January 05 2014 22:30 Nerchio wrote:
On January 05 2014 22:28 scares wrote:
On January 05 2014 22:28 Nerchio wrote:
On January 05 2014 22:26 scares wrote:
On January 05 2014 22:24 Nerchio wrote:
Can someome explain to me how is zerg supposed to beat this

I fear this might be one of those " don't let it get that far" solutions, at least until someone innovative comes along that breaks everyones minds

I know it is like that and it was always like that for Zerg, basically there is a death timer for Zerg where if you don't kill your opponent or cripple him a lot before a certain time, you pretty much lost.

However, it's not like it's easy to get there, we don't see it very often

To be honest with all the mech buffs it's very easy to get to this point as meching player, you just need to play very defensive and there is not many points where Zerg will be able to break you and when you start sacing scv's it's already too late


If we let Terran beat Zerg with mech this boring for a few months, next expansion we can get a MSC, think about it!!!!!!!

Be right back few months

just practice with avilo! both of you are proplayers, right?
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
January 05 2014 13:35 GMT
#504
On January 05 2014 22:32 Ctesias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 22:32 Vandal wrote:
And that's just game one.

Don't worry, we got a ZvZ coming up.

What if they go mass bl / swarmhost / infestors :O
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
January 05 2014 13:35 GMT
#505
Does Effort still have almost Jaedong-levels of ZvZ? Haven't seen it in a long time.
Flash | Mvp
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
January 05 2014 13:35 GMT
#506
On January 05 2014 22:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I hope Shine 6 pools

Oh god yes. Shine the master of cheese
Hello
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 05 2014 13:35 GMT
#507
Six straight terran wins.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
January 05 2014 13:35 GMT
#508
I think ground mech is interesting and potentially highly entertaining. Mass air play late game is probably a bit broken. Once this many ravens and vikings are out, the only recourse for zerg is to have complete map control and creep spread and play the most mind-numbingly stupid style ever.

If there was a way to buff ground mech and nerf late game mass raven/viking, I think mech could be pretty good.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
January 05 2014 13:35 GMT
#509
On January 05 2014 22:33 AstrOtoss wrote:
God dammit that game was so dumb
why is turtling so good in this game

Because the design of economy doesn't allow to punish turtling players by outexpanding them
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
January 05 2014 13:36 GMT
#510
On January 05 2014 22:35 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 22:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I hope Shine 6 pools

Oh god yes. Shine the master of cheese


thats kwanro...

shine is master of all in there is difference llol
관광 since 2008. Master of Cheese. God of Heartbreak Ridge.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
January 05 2014 13:36 GMT
#511
On January 05 2014 22:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I hope Shine 6 pools

Remember the Up & Down match between these two? Shine 10pool Baneling'd EffOrt and EffOrt refused to leave because he was madbro.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
January 05 2014 13:36 GMT
#512
6 pool
The heart's eternal vow
jekku
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1640 Posts
January 05 2014 13:36 GMT
#513
On January 05 2014 22:34 raga4ka wrote:
Should have just made a fuckton of swarmhosts ,vipers and spores corrupters , no neutral . No nudys no drop tech , that was a bad display of lategame by Hydra , but it was to be expected he isn't much of a lategame zerg , not very creative ...


Yup hydra definetly had the game in the bag but just didnt adjust his composition at all. Just fighting late game mech/air with corruptor brood lord and fungal is never gonna end well.
In the rear with the gear!
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
January 05 2014 13:36 GMT
#514
On January 05 2014 22:35 Squat wrote:
I think ground mech is interesting and potentially highly entertaining. Mass air play late game is probably a bit broken. Once this many ravens and vikings are out, the only recourse for zerg is to have complete map control and creep spread and play the most mind-numbingly stupid style ever.

If there was a way to buff ground mech and nerf late game mass raven/viking, I think mech could be pretty good.


If you remove the swarmhost, then fine
zyce
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States649 Posts
January 05 2014 13:36 GMT
#515
Oh boy, Shine is going to get smashed if he doesn't cheese.
Beauty is not the goal of competitive sports, but high-level sports are a prime venue for the expression of human beauty. The relation is roughly that of courage to war.
GreenFate
Profile Joined March 2011
France289 Posts
January 05 2014 13:36 GMT
#516
On January 05 2014 22:33 AstrOtoss wrote:
God dammit that game was so dumb
why is turtling so good in this game


Because zerg is not used to super late game TvZ, and makes wrong choice :o
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
January 05 2014 13:37 GMT
#517
On January 05 2014 22:35 Squat wrote:
I think ground mech is interesting and potentially highly entertaining. Mass air play late game is probably a bit broken. Once this many ravens and vikings are out, the only recourse for zerg is to have complete map control and creep spread and play the most mind-numbingly stupid style ever.

If there was a way to buff ground mech and nerf late game mass raven/viking, I think mech could be pretty good.

Swarm hosts lead to mass static def into ravens lead to mass air turtling.

Nerf (redesign?) to swarm host accompanied by a raven nerf should go a long way.
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
January 05 2014 13:38 GMT
#518
Wow, Korean programers might have excellent execution, they're clueless in some area.
Hydra had no clue how to play high eco super-lategame ZvT (swarmhosts/vipers/corruptors/mass spores).
This looked like reminescent WOL play...
Our envy always last longer than the happiness of those we envy
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 05 2014 13:38 GMT
#519
On January 05 2014 22:36 ChoDing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 22:35 Keeemy wrote:
On January 05 2014 22:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I hope Shine 6 pools

Oh god yes. Shine the master of cheese


thats kwanro...

shine is master of all in there is difference llol


Kwanro is the master of the forgotten art of "make zergling"
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hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
January 05 2014 13:38 GMT
#520
Well, I guess it's going to take some (Z)EffOrt to out(Z)Shine an aggressive Zerg player.
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
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