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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
December 30 2013 13:44 GMT
#981
God that was really terrible by Hydra, wasted his ground army so that he could waste his bank on corruptor/blord/swarmhost htat can't do squat against a competent protoss on that map since it has two really far apart attack paths and the entrances to bases are really narrow... should've aggressed with a purpose or moved over to the natural instead of spamming suicide at the third....
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
December 30 2013 13:44 GMT
#982
i ask anyone reading this to make a cool "respect the voidray" poster or smth like this.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 30 2013 13:44 GMT
#983
On December 30 2013 22:41 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:40 Dodgin wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:39 LimitSEA wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:38 Drake wrote:
sry but wolf is starting shittalking like protoss is unbeatable without miracle ... i hate when casters are anti or pro some race or starts talking shit like he does now .... rly frustrating he just jumps on the whinetrain ...

its not like hydra played it good ... he just throw it and his fights was horrible

I find it strange considering he's a protoss player himself.


It's not that strange, I've come to hate my own race in some ways.

I get ya. I used to be only Zerg, now I play Terran too and I hate Zerg sometimes.


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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
December 30 2013 13:44 GMT
#984
On December 30 2013 22:43 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:40 Dodgin wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:39 LimitSEA wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:38 Drake wrote:
sry but wolf is starting shittalking like protoss is unbeatable without miracle ... i hate when casters are anti or pro some race or starts talking shit like he does now .... rly frustrating he just jumps on the whinetrain ...

its not like hydra played it good ... he just throw it and his fights was horrible

I find it strange considering he's a protoss player himself.


It's not that strange, I've come to hate my own race in some ways.

Protoss does that. When I couldn't take it anymore, I switched to Terran like an emo kid cutting his hair.


And then you was like : damn that's so hard to play :p

I love watching terran play but i just can't stand playing it. Dunno why.
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gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
December 30 2013 13:44 GMT
#985
On December 30 2013 22:43 Ragnarork wrote:
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On December 30 2013 22:42 Rainmansc wrote:
Can't we just give zerg more supply vs protoss ^^? People telling hydra trew? Tell me what he shoudlve made...


Play better.

Cant we just give corrupters stim instead of the boring ability? Then we could split them better against storms :D.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 30 2013 13:44 GMT
#986
I honestly wonder if it could have been a better idea to just kill the collosus and ignore the voidrays then remax on lings + queens. He had 71 lava and 2k minerals
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 30 2013 13:44 GMT
#987
On December 30 2013 22:43 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:40 Dodgin wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:39 LimitSEA wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:38 Drake wrote:
sry but wolf is starting shittalking like protoss is unbeatable without miracle ... i hate when casters are anti or pro some race or starts talking shit like he does now .... rly frustrating he just jumps on the whinetrain ...

its not like hydra played it good ... he just throw it and his fights was horrible

I find it strange considering he's a protoss player himself.


It's not that strange, I've come to hate my own race in some ways.

Protoss does that. When I couldn't take it anymore, I switched to Terran like an emo kid cutting his hair.


I switched to never logging on the game ever again
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 13:46:20
December 30 2013 13:44 GMT
#988
On December 30 2013 22:42 Rainmansc wrote:
Can't we just give zerg more supply vs protoss ^^? People telling hydra trew? Tell me what he shoudlve made...

More Swarm Hosts(he had 2 when final engagement happened and then he reinforced like 6 more or something when half of his army was gone), not so many Corruptors, add Infestors/Vipers on top of that and you had quite good army against that. And his micro wasn't really that good, he lost his Queens for nothing, he barely used Transfusion.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24603 Posts
December 30 2013 13:44 GMT
#989
I was certain Hydra was going to take the island bases, remax on mutas and just roll that Protoss army. But guess his gas was just too low after those early attacks and one or two expos being sniped
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
December 30 2013 13:44 GMT
#990
On December 30 2013 22:43 Rainmansc wrote:
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On December 30 2013 22:43 FFW_Rude wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:42 Rainmansc wrote:
Can't we just give zerg more supply vs protoss ^^? People telling hydra trew? Tell me what he shoudlve made...


He made to much corruptors and didn't dodge storms

You really think you can beat that army with splitting?


well no thats why u r supposed to make shit load of spines and spores and turtle and take those 2 islands and wait for protoss to come in.

hydra just played shitty
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 30 2013 13:45 GMT
#991
On December 30 2013 22:44 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:43 Ragnarork wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:42 Rainmansc wrote:
Can't we just give zerg more supply vs protoss ^^? People telling hydra trew? Tell me what he shoudlve made...


Play better.

Cant we just give corrupters stim instead of the boring ability? Then we could split them better against storms :D.

Give everyone stim, make SC2 faster.
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
December 30 2013 13:45 GMT
#992
On December 30 2013 22:44 bo1b wrote:
I honestly wonder if it could have been a better idea to just kill the collosus and ignore the voidrays then remax on lings + queens. He had 71 lava and 2k minerals


Didn't Stats have storm?
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
December 30 2013 13:45 GMT
#993
On December 30 2013 22:44 Heartland wrote:
I was certain Hydra was going to take the island bases, remax on mutas and just roll that Protoss army. But guess his gas was just too low after those early attacks and one or two expos being sniped

With so many Templars, Archons and Stalkers, I think that remax on Mutas wouldn't work anyway.
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shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 13:46:03
December 30 2013 13:45 GMT
#994
You see the problem against Protoss. Storms dictate the game and what the opponent can make. Tempests mean that you must engage, you can't sit there and taking it in the face.

Terran has to make ghosts to hopefully trade 1-1 with templars, but that forces you into more of a tactics intense game than a strategy game. Some people and players just don't like that style.

The best way strategically is to simply make units that are tough enough to weather multiple storms and come out on top. But everything that T has that fits the bill sucks!!!

Tanks? Shit vs P, of questionable use vs Z (ok, they're also still shit)
Thors? Shit because of range and bulk
BCs? Just terrible, templars counter yamato, tempests counter it
Ravens? Also terrible, still gets countered by templars

All of Terran late game units are shit!

Zerg has ultras, which admittedly are not great vs VRs, but at least they're enough to necessitate an urgent switch to immos. Sometimes not enough, unless you have 2-3 robos. Hydra tried to outmuscle it through spamming corruptors. Didn't work.

So that's the problem heading into LotV. Why Flash lost - because he can't play a logical style that involves durability and holding a superior defensive position. The last time he tried his BCs all got feedbacked and blew up by tempests.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 30 2013 13:45 GMT
#995
On December 30 2013 22:44 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:43 ZenithM wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:40 Dodgin wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:39 LimitSEA wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:38 Drake wrote:
sry but wolf is starting shittalking like protoss is unbeatable without miracle ... i hate when casters are anti or pro some race or starts talking shit like he does now .... rly frustrating he just jumps on the whinetrain ...

its not like hydra played it good ... he just throw it and his fights was horrible

I find it strange considering he's a protoss player himself.


It's not that strange, I've come to hate my own race in some ways.

Protoss does that. When I couldn't take it anymore, I switched to Terran like an emo kid cutting his hair.


I switched to never logging on the game ever again

Haha that's a decent alternative :D
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
December 30 2013 13:45 GMT
#996
On December 30 2013 22:41 foxmeep wrote:
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On December 30 2013 22:38 Arceus wrote:
Hydra throws so fuckin hard. Goddamn it why would you ever go for SH it achieves absolutely nothing except wasting your advantage.Jesus


It wasn't the SH that cost him the game. It was the 50 corruptors

or maybe he could have finished the game before getting to that point by putting even more aggression with that big supply advantage and trust fund, teching to mutas or ultras. Instead he gives Stats 10 mins of freedom and starts playing stupid with all those corruptors. Trust me Ive seen so many games like that
MooLen
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany501 Posts
December 30 2013 13:45 GMT
#997
I wonder why Zergs lost their patience in lategame. I mean back in the day you had 40-50 minute games where they hide behind spores and slowpushed when they felt they had enough ressources etc. Now they just go into killmode like terrans do... I mean is the reason the Tempest??? There are enough lategame Zerg units to deal with that like Vipers, Neural spell. I just don´t get why Hydra desperatly attacked in a protoss defence that had the counter to the corruptors and 4 high templar with a good amount of energy ://
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
December 30 2013 13:45 GMT
#998
That was a great game. Good to see Stats spent the downtime between Proleague seasons well.
Flash | Mvp
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 30 2013 13:45 GMT
#999
On December 30 2013 22:45 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:44 bo1b wrote:
I honestly wonder if it could have been a better idea to just kill the collosus and ignore the voidrays then remax on lings + queens. He had 71 lava and 2k minerals


Didn't Stats have storm?

Did he have any ht left? I only saw stalkers
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
December 30 2013 13:45 GMT
#1000
On December 30 2013 22:43 Rainmansc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:43 FFW_Rude wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:42 Rainmansc wrote:
Can't we just give zerg more supply vs protoss ^^? People telling hydra trew? Tell me what he shoudlve made...


He made to much corruptors and didn't dodge storms

You really think you can beat that army with splitting?

If he'd added infestors to his army, he could have yes.
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