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samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
December 30 2013 13:45 GMT
#1001
On December 30 2013 22:38 Paljas wrote:
voidrays are not about balance
ITS ABOUT RESPECT

I think he meant you cannot go in without a micro taking into consideration storms and prismatic alignment.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9366 Posts
December 30 2013 13:46 GMT
#1002
On December 30 2013 22:40 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
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On December 30 2013 22:38 Drake wrote:
sry but wolf is starting shittalking like protoss is unbeatable without miracle ... i hate when casters are anti or pro some race or starts talking !@#$%^&* like he does now .... rly frustrating he just jumps on the whinetrain ...

its not like hydra played it good ... he just throw it and his fights was horrible

P Deathball is the strongest imo. 1. high quality units 2. WG mechanic


Its the strongest given that its much more mobile than the terran bio/ghost deathball which suffers from poor scaling, slow produciton and a much higher margin of error.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
December 30 2013 13:46 GMT
#1003
On December 30 2013 22:44 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:43 ZenithM wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:40 Dodgin wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:39 LimitSEA wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:38 Drake wrote:
sry but wolf is starting shittalking like protoss is unbeatable without miracle ... i hate when casters are anti or pro some race or starts talking shit like he does now .... rly frustrating he just jumps on the whinetrain ...

its not like hydra played it good ... he just throw it and his fights was horrible

I find it strange considering he's a protoss player himself.


It's not that strange, I've come to hate my own race in some ways.

Protoss does that. When I couldn't take it anymore, I switched to Terran like an emo kid cutting his hair.


I switched to never logging on the game ever again

wow, way to kill sc2
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51475 Posts
December 30 2013 13:46 GMT
#1004
Knitting like a pro ;3
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KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
December 30 2013 13:46 GMT
#1005
On December 30 2013 22:44 Paljas wrote:
i ask anyone reading this to make a cool "respect the voidray" poster or smth like this.
ty


yeah, this really needs to happen haha
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 30 2013 13:46 GMT
#1006
On December 30 2013 22:45 MooLen wrote:
I wonder why Zergs lost their patience in lategame. I mean back in the day you had 40-50 minute games where they hide behind spores and slowpushed when they felt they had enough ressources etc. Now they just go into killmode like terrans do... I mean is the reason the Tempest??? There are enough lategame Zerg units to deal with that like Vipers, Neural spell. I just don´t get why Hydra desperatly attacked in a protoss defence that had the counter to the corruptors and 4 high templar with a good amount of energy ://

"Back in the day" broods/infests was unbeatable.
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
December 30 2013 13:46 GMT
#1007
After Hydra just kept throwing units into a meat grinder at the toss' third, losing stray packs of swarm hosts here and there and fighting with brood lords without ground support, attacking an expansion while losing all his queens to feedbacks as they wandered off on their own, he deserved to lose that game...
Cogito, ergo toss.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
December 30 2013 13:46 GMT
#1008
On December 30 2013 22:44 ChoDing wrote:
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On December 30 2013 22:43 Rainmansc wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:43 FFW_Rude wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:42 Rainmansc wrote:
Can't we just give zerg more supply vs protoss ^^? People telling hydra trew? Tell me what he shoudlve made...


He made to much corruptors and didn't dodge storms

You really think you can beat that army with splitting?


well no thats why u r supposed to make shit load of spines and spores and turtle and take those 2 islands and wait for protoss to come in.

hydra just played shitty


Well of course not. It's not splitting win the games but he could have had more time in fights. Hydra tried to play very aggressive, commited a little too much etcc..

There is a lot of things that made him lose this game. Maybe someone with better knowledge will explain you this. I'm low qualified to
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
December 30 2013 13:46 GMT
#1009
On December 30 2013 22:43 Rainmansc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:43 FFW_Rude wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:42 Rainmansc wrote:
Can't we just give zerg more supply vs protoss ^^? People telling hydra trew? Tell me what he shoudlve made...


He made to much corruptors and didn't dodge storms

You really think you can beat that army with splitting?


I don't understand why in your opinion you should get away with massing a unit against its counter, it's one of the basic starcraft 2 mechanics, maybe you should change game if you don't approve of that.
Rainmansc
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands216 Posts
December 30 2013 13:47 GMT
#1010
On December 30 2013 22:45 MooLen wrote:
I wonder why Zergs lost their patience in lategame. I mean back in the day you had 40-50 minute games where they hide behind spores and slowpushed when they felt they had enough ressources etc. Now they just go into killmode like terrans do... I mean is the reason the Tempest??? There are enough lategame Zerg units to deal with that like Vipers, Neural spell. I just don´t get why Hydra desperatly attacked in a protoss defence that had the counter to the corruptors and 4 high templar with a good amount of energy ://

Why people keep saying vipers vipers! Youve ever played with vipers vs even 2-3 HT's?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 30 2013 13:47 GMT
#1011
On December 30 2013 22:45 MooLen wrote:
I wonder why Zergs lost their patience in lategame. I mean back in the day you had 40-50 minute games where they hide behind spores and slowpushed when they felt they had enough ressources etc. Now they just go into killmode like terrans do... I mean is the reason the Tempest??? There are enough lategame Zerg units to deal with that like Vipers, Neural spell. I just don´t get why Hydra desperatly attacked in a protoss defence that had the counter to the corruptors and 4 high templar with a good amount of energy ://

I'm not sure if it's possible for zerg to win ultra late game when protoss gets a fully upgraded air army. I'd love to hear a pro players opinion on this though
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
December 30 2013 13:47 GMT
#1012
On December 30 2013 22:45 bo1b wrote:
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On December 30 2013 22:45 DJHelium wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:44 bo1b wrote:
I honestly wonder if it could have been a better idea to just kill the collosus and ignore the voidrays then remax on lings + queens. He had 71 lava and 2k minerals


Didn't Stats have storm?

Did he have any ht left? I only saw stalkers

He didn't, because he had everything on the same hotkey and walked them into the broodlings to tank for the stalkers His biggest mistake that game, imo.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 30 2013 13:47 GMT
#1013
On December 30 2013 22:46 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:44 Dodgin wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:43 ZenithM wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:40 Dodgin wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:39 LimitSEA wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:38 Drake wrote:
sry but wolf is starting shittalking like protoss is unbeatable without miracle ... i hate when casters are anti or pro some race or starts talking shit like he does now .... rly frustrating he just jumps on the whinetrain ...

its not like hydra played it good ... he just throw it and his fights was horrible

I find it strange considering he's a protoss player himself.


It's not that strange, I've come to hate my own race in some ways.

Protoss does that. When I couldn't take it anymore, I switched to Terran like an emo kid cutting his hair.


I switched to never logging on the game ever again

wow, way to kill sc2


It's not like I stopped watching tournaments, I only care about the esport aspect of sc2, there could be 20 people on bnet and I wouldn't care.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 30 2013 13:47 GMT
#1014
On December 30 2013 22:45 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:38 Paljas wrote:
voidrays are not about balance
ITS ABOUT RESPECT

I think he meant you cannot go in without a micro taking into consideration storms and prismatic alignment.

We know, but it's still funny, considering void-rays are one of the least "respected" units in the game since the dawn of WoL beta :D
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
December 30 2013 13:47 GMT
#1015
Hydra rightfully earned his spot in my antiteam. Good boy.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 30 2013 13:47 GMT
#1016
On December 30 2013 22:44 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:43 Ragnarork wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:42 Rainmansc wrote:
Can't we just give zerg more supply vs protoss ^^? People telling hydra trew? Tell me what he shoudlve made...


Play better.

Cant we just give corrupters stim instead of the boring ability? Then we could split them better against storms :D.


I wouldn't give any advice about balance, but I can assure you that I find corrupters boring (and I'd like that they benefit from improvements like those in that "Depth of Micro" video). We just see them standing most of the time, with a few split here and there but nothing spectacular, but heh, with that acceleration and speed, what do you expect...
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 30 2013 13:48 GMT
#1017
Time for Bbyong to pay up! :3
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 30 2013 13:48 GMT
#1018
On December 30 2013 22:47 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:45 samurai80 wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:38 Paljas wrote:
voidrays are not about balance
ITS ABOUT RESPECT

I think he meant you cannot go in without a micro taking into consideration storms and prismatic alignment.

We know, but it's still funny, considering void-rays are one of the least "respected" units in the game since the dawn of WoL beta :D

200/200 max void ray was the shit when I played SC2 at release
Glorious SEA doto
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
December 30 2013 13:48 GMT
#1019
On December 30 2013 22:47 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:45 samurai80 wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:38 Paljas wrote:
voidrays are not about balance
ITS ABOUT RESPECT

I think he meant you cannot go in without a micro taking into consideration storms and prismatic alignment.

We know, but it's still funny, considering void-rays are one of the least "respected" units in the game since the dawn of WoL beta :D


Remember when they had speed ? god...
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
December 30 2013 13:48 GMT
#1020
Wait they have to hold the mics the whole time while casting?

lol
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