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1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
November 16 2013 02:12 GMT
#3321
On November 16 2013 11:10 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 11:08 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:00 ZenithM wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:57 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:54 Vorenius wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:53 1Dhalism wrote:
dual tournament format strikes again.

Explain

loser learns from his mistakes, draws with the winner, advances

Nobody complains about this anymore. In fact the consensus is that it's the best format for 4-man groups...

i dont think those people understand how strategy games work and what kind of preparation they involve.

But what do I know, I guess 13 years of OSL got it wrong.

... Can't make an actual argument? Tell people they "don't understand" about very general topics with no clarification! Nice!

game 5 of tod vs stephano.
Had the previous 4 games not occurred ToD wouldnt proxy gate.
Most learning is done from losing, fairly well known fact i would think.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 02:12:57
November 16 2013 02:12 GMT
#3322
did happy say he heard everything??

e:yup


...
go?
go
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 16 2013 02:12 GMT
#3323
"I hear everything"
"That's nice, gogo?"
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
dangthatsright
Profile Joined July 2011
1158 Posts
November 16 2013 02:13 GMT
#3324
On November 16 2013 11:12 1Dhalism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 11:10 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:08 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:00 ZenithM wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:57 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:54 Vorenius wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:53 1Dhalism wrote:
dual tournament format strikes again.

Explain

loser learns from his mistakes, draws with the winner, advances

Nobody complains about this anymore. In fact the consensus is that it's the best format for 4-man groups...

i dont think those people understand how strategy games work and what kind of preparation they involve.

But what do I know, I guess 13 years of OSL got it wrong.

... Can't make an actual argument? Tell people they "don't understand" about very general topics with no clarification! Nice!

game 5 of tod vs stephano.
Had the previous 4 games not occurred ToD wouldnt proxy gate.
Most learning is done from losing, fairly well known fact i would think.

wait so he learned from mistakes and adjusted to them and then won 2 games in a row, not drawing with the winner but having a better record in this specific instance, and this is a problem?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 16 2013 02:13 GMT
#3325
On November 16 2013 11:12 1Dhalism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 11:10 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:08 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:00 ZenithM wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:57 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:54 Vorenius wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:53 1Dhalism wrote:
dual tournament format strikes again.

Explain

loser learns from his mistakes, draws with the winner, advances

Nobody complains about this anymore. In fact the consensus is that it's the best format for 4-man groups...

i dont think those people understand how strategy games work and what kind of preparation they involve.

But what do I know, I guess 13 years of OSL got it wrong.

... Can't make an actual argument? Tell people they "don't understand" about very general topics with no clarification! Nice!

game 5 of tod vs stephano.
Had the previous 4 games not occurred ToD wouldnt proxy gate.
Most learning is done from losing, fairly well known fact i would think.

So bo5's are also unfair. Nani beat Hyun 3-2 at IEM due to realizing Hyun goes 3 hatch before pool and goes proxy gates in deciding game.

Learning done from losing. Damn man why did I not think of that?
We shouldn't allow people to adapt on the fly to win. So imba.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
November 16 2013 02:13 GMT
#3326
On November 16 2013 11:12 1Dhalism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 11:10 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:08 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:00 ZenithM wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:57 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:54 Vorenius wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:53 1Dhalism wrote:
dual tournament format strikes again.

Explain

loser learns from his mistakes, draws with the winner, advances

Nobody complains about this anymore. In fact the consensus is that it's the best format for 4-man groups...

i dont think those people understand how strategy games work and what kind of preparation they involve.

But what do I know, I guess 13 years of OSL got it wrong.

... Can't make an actual argument? Tell people they "don't understand" about very general topics with no clarification! Nice!

game 5 of tod vs stephano.
Had the previous 4 games not occurred ToD wouldnt proxy gate.
Most learning is done from losing, fairly well known fact i would think.

would you say bo5 or bo7 are inferior to bo3?
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 16 2013 02:14 GMT
#3327
On November 16 2013 11:13 dangthatsright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 11:12 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:10 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:08 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:00 ZenithM wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:57 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:54 Vorenius wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:53 1Dhalism wrote:
dual tournament format strikes again.

Explain

loser learns from his mistakes, draws with the winner, advances

Nobody complains about this anymore. In fact the consensus is that it's the best format for 4-man groups...

i dont think those people understand how strategy games work and what kind of preparation they involve.

But what do I know, I guess 13 years of OSL got it wrong.

... Can't make an actual argument? Tell people they "don't understand" about very general topics with no clarification! Nice!

game 5 of tod vs stephano.
Had the previous 4 games not occurred ToD wouldnt proxy gate.
Most learning is done from losing, fairly well known fact i would think.

wait so he learned from mistakes and adjusted to them and then won 2 games in a row, not drawing with the winner but having a better record in this specific instance, and this is a problem?


he only wants endless tie breakers to see how players waste themself, just let him be
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 02:18:34
November 16 2013 02:15 GMT
#3328
On November 16 2013 11:13 dangthatsright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 11:12 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:10 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:08 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:00 ZenithM wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:57 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:54 Vorenius wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:53 1Dhalism wrote:
dual tournament format strikes again.

Explain

loser learns from his mistakes, draws with the winner, advances

Nobody complains about this anymore. In fact the consensus is that it's the best format for 4-man groups...

i dont think those people understand how strategy games work and what kind of preparation they involve.

But what do I know, I guess 13 years of OSL got it wrong.

... Can't make an actual argument? Tell people they "don't understand" about very general topics with no clarification! Nice!

game 5 of tod vs stephano.
Had the previous 4 games not occurred ToD wouldnt proxy gate.
Most learning is done from losing, fairly well known fact i would think.

wait so he learned from mistakes and adjusted to them and then won 2 games in a row, not drawing with the winner but having a better record in this specific instance, and this is a problem?

But the winner isnt offered the same opportunity.

On November 16 2013 11:13 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 11:12 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:10 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:08 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:00 ZenithM wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:57 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:54 Vorenius wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:53 1Dhalism wrote:
dual tournament format strikes again.

Explain

loser learns from his mistakes, draws with the winner, advances

Nobody complains about this anymore. In fact the consensus is that it's the best format for 4-man groups...

i dont think those people understand how strategy games work and what kind of preparation they involve.

But what do I know, I guess 13 years of OSL got it wrong.

... Can't make an actual argument? Tell people they "don't understand" about very general topics with no clarification! Nice!

game 5 of tod vs stephano.
Had the previous 4 games not occurred ToD wouldnt proxy gate.
Most learning is done from losing, fairly well known fact i would think.

So bo5's are also unfair. Nani beat Hyun 3-2 at IEM due to realizing Hyun goes 3 hatch before pool and goes proxy gates in deciding game.

Learning done from losing. Damn man why did I not think of that?
We shouldn't allow people to adapt on the fly to win. So imba.


This isn't a Bo5. Titan Kas went even in games and Titan advanced.
I honestly do not understand why i need to argue that bo5 is different than 2 Bo3s. Thats silly.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 16 2013 02:15 GMT
#3329
On November 16 2013 11:13 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 11:12 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:10 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:08 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:00 ZenithM wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:57 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:54 Vorenius wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:53 1Dhalism wrote:
dual tournament format strikes again.

Explain

loser learns from his mistakes, draws with the winner, advances

Nobody complains about this anymore. In fact the consensus is that it's the best format for 4-man groups...

i dont think those people understand how strategy games work and what kind of preparation they involve.

But what do I know, I guess 13 years of OSL got it wrong.

... Can't make an actual argument? Tell people they "don't understand" about very general topics with no clarification! Nice!

game 5 of tod vs stephano.
Had the previous 4 games not occurred ToD wouldnt proxy gate.
Most learning is done from losing, fairly well known fact i would think.

would you say bo5 or bo7 are inferior to bo3?

Yes ! BO1 everywhere, just like OSL !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 16 2013 02:16 GMT
#3330
On November 16 2013 11:15 1Dhalism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 11:13 dangthatsright wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:12 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:10 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:08 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 11:00 ZenithM wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:57 1Dhalism wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:54 Vorenius wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:53 1Dhalism wrote:
dual tournament format strikes again.

Explain

loser learns from his mistakes, draws with the winner, advances

Nobody complains about this anymore. In fact the consensus is that it's the best format for 4-man groups...

i dont think those people understand how strategy games work and what kind of preparation they involve.

But what do I know, I guess 13 years of OSL got it wrong.

... Can't make an actual argument? Tell people they "don't understand" about very general topics with no clarification! Nice!

game 5 of tod vs stephano.
Had the previous 4 games not occurred ToD wouldnt proxy gate.
Most learning is done from losing, fairly well known fact i would think.

wait so he learned from mistakes and adjusted to them and then won 2 games in a row, not drawing with the winner but having a better record in this specific instance, and this is a problem?

But the winner isnt offered the same opportunity.

The winner can't adjust? Why not?
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
November 16 2013 02:16 GMT
#3331
inc was right - needed to focus the forge!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 16 2013 02:17 GMT
#3332
At least we get a nice action packed series to end it.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 16 2013 02:18 GMT
#3333
*Round Robin
*Map Score
*H2H
*Pushups tie-breaker

ESPORTS athleticism
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 16 2013 02:19 GMT
#3334
On November 16 2013 11:18 AlternativeEgo wrote:
*Round Robin
*Map Score
*H2H
*Pushups tie-breaker

ESPORTS athleticism

If foreigners can just make it to the pushups tie-breaker...
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 16 2013 02:19 GMT
#3335
just do the freaking 32 player everyone plays everyone, to find out the 16 best players for the next round. Not sure If I would survive 2 month of homestory cup.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 16 2013 02:20 GMT
#3336
Hero archon kills an entire drop
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
November 16 2013 02:20 GMT
#3337
game 1 so great so far!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 16 2013 02:21 GMT
#3338
those storms, still a really messy battle...
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 02:22:20
November 16 2013 02:22 GMT
#3339
I don't know if pushing the natural is a good idea...
oh I guess it is
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
November 16 2013 02:22 GMT
#3340
#yearofharstem ?
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