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wUndertUnge
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1125 Posts
October 26 2013 20:00 GMT
#1801
On October 27 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:56 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:55 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:53 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote:
Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage.


Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly?


No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time.

If by “useless," you mean it makes any units caught in them a toast for ultras if numbers are there, then sure!


Why not change fungal back to what it was when WoL got released then? No one said they were imba back then and practically no one used Infestors.

Why not change Tanks back to what it was when WoL got released then?


He was being sarcastic. Like this "Yeah, no one used infestors or broodlords. X) #sarcasm
Clan: QQGC - wundertunge#1850
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 26 2013 20:00 GMT
#1802
On October 27 2013 04:56 The_Templar wrote:
Group A: Final Match

(Z)Soulkey vs (T)Hack
0-0


Map: Frost


Soulkey spawns in the bottom right
Hack spawns in the bottom left

2:00
Soulkey going hatchery first.
Hack getting a barracks without a refinery.
Soulkey scouting cross-map.

3:00
Soulkey building a spawning pool.
Hack expanding on the low ground.
Hack getting a refinery.
Hack denies scouting with a marine.

4:00
Hack getting a fast third CC.
Soulkey moves an overlord towards the main but hack pushes it back.
Soulkey scouts the expansion and wall of the main with 2 zerglings.
Hack getting a factory.

5:00
Hack taking his second assimilator and getting a reactor on his barracks.
Soulkey taking a third base.
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openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
October 26 2013 20:00 GMT
#1803
sometimes don't understand why Gretorp says what he says.
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
October 26 2013 20:00 GMT
#1804
Not another 2 Fac BFH opening...why do Terrans still do this?
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1805
I'm still watching vods from yesterday at the same time, and WOW game 1 between Maru and Duckdeok was insane. I hope, belive and am willing to bet that Maru takes this tournament!

Maru vs Soulkey finals would be great!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44240 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1806
On October 27 2013 04:59 iAmJeffReY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:59 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:58 iAmJeffReY wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:56 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:55 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:53 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote:
Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage.


Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly?


No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time.

If by “useless," you mean it makes any units caught in them a toast for ultras if numbers are there, then sure!


Why not change fungal back to what it was when WoL got released then? No one said they were imba back then and practically no one used Infestors.

Why not change Tanks back to what it was when WoL got released then?

And 60 health scvs

we need dem 60 health scvs.


And 1 supply 2 armor roaches!


Let's not get too crazy here my friend. We don't want that. And by we, I mean terrans.


i think protosses would also agree on this matter
this is a quote
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1807
On October 27 2013 05:01 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:59 iAmJeffReY wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:59 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:58 iAmJeffReY wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:56 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:55 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:53 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote:
Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage.


Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly?


No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time.

If by “useless," you mean it makes any units caught in them a toast for ultras if numbers are there, then sure!


Why not change fungal back to what it was when WoL got released then? No one said they were imba back then and practically no one used Infestors.

Why not change Tanks back to what it was when WoL got released then?

And 60 health scvs

we need dem 60 health scvs.


And 1 supply 2 armor roaches!


Let's not get too crazy here my friend. We don't want that. And by we, I mean terrans.


i think protosses would also agree on this matter

Who cares about those aliens. You fuckers win everything.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1808
On October 27 2013 05:00 openbox1 wrote:
sometimes don't understand why Gretorp says what he says.


Don't try to understand it.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1809
On October 27 2013 04:59 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:58 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:57 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:56 TT1 wrote:
hack is gonna crush soulkey
#blessed


That is a brave blessing.

Hack! True Terran of StarTale!

I have a lot of questions. First of all, how dare you?

Name dat show.

I actually like Bomber, but I also like giving Wintex a hard time. I'm bad at shows
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veKtory
Profile Joined June 2012
233 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 20:02:04
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1810
On October 27 2013 05:00 wUndertUnge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:56 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:55 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:53 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote:
Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage.


Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly?


No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time.

If by “useless," you mean it makes any units caught in them a toast for ultras if numbers are there, then sure!


Why not change fungal back to what it was when WoL got released then? No one said they were imba back then and practically no one used Infestors.

Why not change Tanks back to what it was when WoL got released then?


He was being sarcastic. Like this "Yeah, no one used infestors or broodlords. X) #sarcasm


Maybe you weren't around before Fungals were buffed to do the same damage in half the time, but before that practically no one used Fungals.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1811
--- Nuked ---
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1812
On October 27 2013 05:01 DJHelium wrote:
I'm still watching vods from yesterday at the same time, and WOW game 1 between Maru and Duckdeok was insane. I hope, belive and am willing to bet that Maru takes this tournament!

Maru vs Soulkey finals would be great!


Best game of yesterday was g1.
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1813
On October 27 2013 05:00 Fjodorov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:58 iAmJeffReY wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:56 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:55 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:53 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote:
Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage.


Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly?


No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time.

If by “useless," you mean it makes any units caught in them a toast for ultras if numbers are there, then sure!


Why not change fungal back to what it was when WoL got released then? No one said they were imba back then and practically no one used Infestors.

Why not change Tanks back to what it was when WoL got released then?

And 60 health scvs

we need dem 60 health scvs.


Indeed! They way all workes have to conform to the same stats and all, its pure communism god damnit.

remember, toss assimilators have more health than the ones from t/z.
stop this injustice, blizzard!
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zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1814
On October 27 2013 04:58 veKtory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:57 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:54 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:54 wUndertUnge wrote:
[Qhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433331UOTE]On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote:
Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before it held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage.
No, fungal was not the issue in that engagement. I don't think the entire was there and not enough lings or banes.


Just sucks to see HUGE FUNGAL ON THE ENTIRE ARMY.....Literally did like no damage.


fungals arent meant to kill. they are meant to hold your units in place while other units close in and finish the job preventing the m from retreating alive...


Then like I said why didn't they change it back to the duration it was when WoL got released? It lasted DOUBLE the amount of time. So basically Blizzard nerfed the damage of the spell AND the duration.[/QUOTE]

Pretty ill informed view. If a fungal isnt coupled with Ultra AoE or result in the death of the bio mass, then what good is it? Whether those marines/marauders are 1 hp or full hp, guess what, they are doing FULL damage. The longer they live REGARDLESS of their health, the more you are getting owned.

Jaedong failed to position his ultras into anything but a bottleneck hitting at most a few bio units and only granting 1-2 ultras to attack. What a dumb idea.

And then ALL of the broodlord supply WASNT EVEN IN THE ENGAGEMENT.

Also, Terran had a much LARGER army supply since he didnt have SCVS.

So lets recap:

Much larger terran army, zerg sends into terrible choke, zerg only sends part of army....???

The only reasonable conclusion is Zerg gets pwned. And thats exactly what we saw and what we wanted.
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1815
On October 27 2013 05:00 Thezzy wrote:
Not another 2 Fac BFH opening...why do Terrans still do this?

I think it worked for him against JD in WCS AM a week or so ago
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robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1816
On October 27 2013 04:59 veKtory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:58 Paljas wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:56 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:55 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:53 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote:
Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage.


Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly?


No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time.

If by “useless," you mean it makes any units caught in them a toast for ultras if numbers are there, then sure!


Why not change fungal back to what it was when WoL got released then? No one said they were imba back then and practically no one used Infestors.

Why not change Tanks back to what it was when WoL got released then?

btw, why not change mothership back to how it was in wol alpha


Because no one thought fungals were imba? Basically Blizzard buffed Fungal to do the same amount of damage in half the time. Now they nerf the damage but never changed the time back, making it the worst the spell has ever been.


Let's go back to the second half of 2012, where everyone was so frustrated with Zerg, that Tastosis laughed their ass off at the GSL finals, because the blords infestor wars were getting so stupid. The marvelous time, where being good at ZvZ instantly made you the best player in the world (hello roro, sup sniper). Yeah those were the times.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1817
wait...is this the Polt build?
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 26 2013 20:02 GMT
#1818
Slow lings? You're such a bum Hack.
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KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 20:02:30
October 26 2013 20:02 GMT
#1819
BFH + Marauder!? Zyzz!?
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
October 26 2013 20:02 GMT
#1820
On October 27 2013 05:00 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:56 zmansman17 wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:55 Weavel wrote:
Zergs are still #1 race in balance whining.


Yeah this is what I get from all of this.

Dunno why Zergs are bitching after that game.JD played shocking against MMA, his muta control wasnt good,and his late game leaves a lot to be desired

The amusing thing is when Polt lost vs Soulkey, there was like one guy saying banelings need to do friendly fire (and he deservedly got ripped). When JD loses the balance complaints come in full force.
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