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On October 27 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2013 04:56 veKtory wrote:On October 27 2013 04:55 TheDwf wrote:On October 27 2013 04:53 veKtory wrote:On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote: Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage. Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly? No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time. If by “useless," you mean it makes any units caught in them a toast for ultras if numbers are there, then sure! Why not change fungal back to what it was when WoL got released then? No one said they were imba back then and practically no one used Infestors. Why not change Tanks back to what it was when WoL got released then?
He was being sarcastic. Like this "Yeah, no one used infestors or broodlords. X) #sarcasm
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your Country52797 Posts
On October 27 2013 04:56 The_Templar wrote:Soulkey spawns in the bottom right Hack spawns in the bottom left 2:00 Soulkey going hatchery first. Hack getting a barracks without a refinery. Soulkey scouting cross-map.
3:00 Soulkey building a spawning pool. Hack expanding on the low ground. Hack getting a refinery. Hack denies scouting with a marine.
4:00 Hack getting a fast third CC. Soulkey moves an overlord towards the main but hack pushes it back. Soulkey scouts the expansion and wall of the main with 2 zerglings. Hack getting a factory.
5:00 Hack taking his second assimilator and getting a reactor on his barracks. Soulkey taking a third base.
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sometimes don't understand why Gretorp says what he says.
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Not another 2 Fac BFH opening...why do Terrans still do this?
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I'm still watching vods from yesterday at the same time, and WOW game 1 between Maru and Duckdeok was insane. I hope, belive and am willing to bet that Maru takes this tournament!
Maru vs Soulkey finals would be great!
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On October 27 2013 04:59 iAmJeffReY wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2013 04:59 stuchiu wrote:On October 27 2013 04:58 iAmJeffReY wrote:On October 27 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote:On October 27 2013 04:56 veKtory wrote:On October 27 2013 04:55 TheDwf wrote:On October 27 2013 04:53 veKtory wrote:On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote: Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage. Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly? No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time. If by “useless," you mean it makes any units caught in them a toast for ultras if numbers are there, then sure! Why not change fungal back to what it was when WoL got released then? No one said they were imba back then and practically no one used Infestors. Why not change Tanks back to what it was when WoL got released then? And 60 health scvs we need dem 60 health scvs. And 1 supply 2 armor roaches! Let's not get too crazy here my friend. We don't want that. And by we, I mean terrans.
i think protosses would also agree on this matter
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On October 27 2013 05:01 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2013 04:59 iAmJeffReY wrote:On October 27 2013 04:59 stuchiu wrote:On October 27 2013 04:58 iAmJeffReY wrote:On October 27 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote:On October 27 2013 04:56 veKtory wrote:On October 27 2013 04:55 TheDwf wrote:On October 27 2013 04:53 veKtory wrote:On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote: Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage. Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly? No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time. If by “useless," you mean it makes any units caught in them a toast for ultras if numbers are there, then sure! Why not change fungal back to what it was when WoL got released then? No one said they were imba back then and practically no one used Infestors. Why not change Tanks back to what it was when WoL got released then? And 60 health scvs we need dem 60 health scvs. And 1 supply 2 armor roaches! Let's not get too crazy here my friend. We don't want that. And by we, I mean terrans. i think protosses would also agree on this matter Who cares about those aliens. You fuckers win everything.
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On October 27 2013 05:00 openbox1 wrote: sometimes don't understand why Gretorp says what he says.
Don't try to understand it.
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United States97274 Posts
On October 27 2013 04:59 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2013 04:58 Shellshock wrote:On October 27 2013 04:57 stuchiu wrote:On October 27 2013 04:56 TT1 wrote: hack is gonna crush soulkey #blessed That is a brave blessing. Hack! True Terran of StarTale! I have a lot of questions. First of all, how dare you? Name dat show. I actually like Bomber, but I also like giving Wintex a hard time. I'm bad at shows
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On October 27 2013 05:00 wUndertUnge wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote:On October 27 2013 04:56 veKtory wrote:On October 27 2013 04:55 TheDwf wrote:On October 27 2013 04:53 veKtory wrote:On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote: Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage. Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly? No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time. If by “useless," you mean it makes any units caught in them a toast for ultras if numbers are there, then sure! Why not change fungal back to what it was when WoL got released then? No one said they were imba back then and practically no one used Infestors. Why not change Tanks back to what it was when WoL got released then? He was being sarcastic. Like this "Yeah, no one used infestors or broodlords. X) #sarcasm
Maybe you weren't around before Fungals were buffed to do the same damage in half the time, but before that practically no one used Fungals.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On October 27 2013 05:01 DJHelium wrote: I'm still watching vods from yesterday at the same time, and WOW game 1 between Maru and Duckdeok was insane. I hope, belive and am willing to bet that Maru takes this tournament!
Maru vs Soulkey finals would be great!
Best game of yesterday was g1.
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On October 27 2013 05:00 Fjodorov wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2013 04:58 iAmJeffReY wrote:On October 27 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote:On October 27 2013 04:56 veKtory wrote:On October 27 2013 04:55 TheDwf wrote:On October 27 2013 04:53 veKtory wrote:On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote: Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage. Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly? No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time. If by “useless," you mean it makes any units caught in them a toast for ultras if numbers are there, then sure! Why not change fungal back to what it was when WoL got released then? No one said they were imba back then and practically no one used Infestors. Why not change Tanks back to what it was when WoL got released then? And 60 health scvs we need dem 60 health scvs. Indeed! They way all workes have to conform to the same stats and all, its pure communism god damnit. remember, toss assimilators have more health than the ones from t/z. stop this injustice, blizzard!
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On October 27 2013 04:58 veKtory wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2013 04:57 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:On October 27 2013 04:54 veKtory wrote:On October 27 2013 04:54 wUndertUnge wrote: [Qhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433331UOTE]On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote: Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before it held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage.
No, fungal was not the issue in that engagement. I don't think the entire was there and not enough lings or banes. Just sucks to see HUGE FUNGAL ON THE ENTIRE ARMY.....Literally did like no damage. fungals arent meant to kill. they are meant to hold your units in place while other units close in and finish the job preventing the m from retreating alive...
Then like I said why didn't they change it back to the duration it was when WoL got released? It lasted DOUBLE the amount of time. So basically Blizzard nerfed the damage of the spell AND the duration.[/QUOTE]
Pretty ill informed view. If a fungal isnt coupled with Ultra AoE or result in the death of the bio mass, then what good is it? Whether those marines/marauders are 1 hp or full hp, guess what, they are doing FULL damage. The longer they live REGARDLESS of their health, the more you are getting owned.
Jaedong failed to position his ultras into anything but a bottleneck hitting at most a few bio units and only granting 1-2 ultras to attack. What a dumb idea.
And then ALL of the broodlord supply WASNT EVEN IN THE ENGAGEMENT.
Also, Terran had a much LARGER army supply since he didnt have SCVS.
So lets recap:
Much larger terran army, zerg sends into terrible choke, zerg only sends part of army....???
The only reasonable conclusion is Zerg gets pwned. And thats exactly what we saw and what we wanted.
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United States23455 Posts
On October 27 2013 05:00 Thezzy wrote: Not another 2 Fac BFH opening...why do Terrans still do this? I think it worked for him against JD in WCS AM a week or so ago
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On October 27 2013 04:59 veKtory wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2013 04:58 Paljas wrote:On October 27 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote:On October 27 2013 04:56 veKtory wrote:On October 27 2013 04:55 TheDwf wrote:On October 27 2013 04:53 veKtory wrote:On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote: Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage. Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly? No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time. If by “useless," you mean it makes any units caught in them a toast for ultras if numbers are there, then sure! Why not change fungal back to what it was when WoL got released then? No one said they were imba back then and practically no one used Infestors. Why not change Tanks back to what it was when WoL got released then? btw, why not change mothership back to how it was in wol alpha Because no one thought fungals were imba? Basically Blizzard buffed Fungal to do the same amount of damage in half the time. Now they nerf the damage but never changed the time back, making it the worst the spell has ever been.
Let's go back to the second half of 2012, where everyone was so frustrated with Zerg, that Tastosis laughed their ass off at the GSL finals, because the blords infestor wars were getting so stupid. The marvelous time, where being good at ZvZ instantly made you the best player in the world (hello roro, sup sniper). Yeah those were the times.
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wait...is this the Polt build?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Slow lings? You're such a bum Hack.
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On October 27 2013 05:00 Topdoller wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2013 04:56 zmansman17 wrote:On October 27 2013 04:55 Weavel wrote: Zergs are still #1 race in balance whining. Yeah this is what I get from all of this. Dunno why Zergs are bitching after that game.JD played shocking against MMA, his muta control wasnt good,and his late game leaves a lot to be desired The amusing thing is when Polt lost vs Soulkey, there was like one guy saying banelings need to do friendly fire (and he deservedly got ripped). When JD loses the balance complaints come in full force.
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