• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:19
CEST 05:19
KST 12:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
GSTL Returns in 2026!13Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-611
StarCraft 2
General
GSTL Returns in 2026! SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Protoss AoE skill expression Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion StarCraft 64 is coming to Philly at SC4ALL II ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4391 users

[WCS Finals] Day 2 Season 3 Grand Finals 2013 - Page 91

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 89 90 91 92 93 331 Next
wUndertUnge
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1125 Posts
October 26 2013 20:00 GMT
#1801
On October 27 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:56 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:55 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:53 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote:
Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage.


Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly?


No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time.

If by “useless," you mean it makes any units caught in them a toast for ultras if numbers are there, then sure!


Why not change fungal back to what it was when WoL got released then? No one said they were imba back then and practically no one used Infestors.

Why not change Tanks back to what it was when WoL got released then?


He was being sarcastic. Like this "Yeah, no one used infestors or broodlords. X) #sarcasm
Clan: QQGC - wundertunge#1850
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 26 2013 20:00 GMT
#1802
On October 27 2013 04:56 The_Templar wrote:
Group A: Final Match

(Z)Soulkey vs (T)Hack
0-0


Map: Frost


Soulkey spawns in the bottom right
Hack spawns in the bottom left

2:00
Soulkey going hatchery first.
Hack getting a barracks without a refinery.
Soulkey scouting cross-map.

3:00
Soulkey building a spawning pool.
Hack expanding on the low ground.
Hack getting a refinery.
Hack denies scouting with a marine.

4:00
Hack getting a fast third CC.
Soulkey moves an overlord towards the main but hack pushes it back.
Soulkey scouts the expansion and wall of the main with 2 zerglings.
Hack getting a factory.

5:00
Hack taking his second assimilator and getting a reactor on his barracks.
Soulkey taking a third base.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
October 26 2013 20:00 GMT
#1803
sometimes don't understand why Gretorp says what he says.
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
October 26 2013 20:00 GMT
#1804
Not another 2 Fac BFH opening...why do Terrans still do this?
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1805
I'm still watching vods from yesterday at the same time, and WOW game 1 between Maru and Duckdeok was insane. I hope, belive and am willing to bet that Maru takes this tournament!

Maru vs Soulkey finals would be great!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44283 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1806
On October 27 2013 04:59 iAmJeffReY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:59 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:58 iAmJeffReY wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:56 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:55 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:53 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote:
Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage.


Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly?


No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time.

If by “useless," you mean it makes any units caught in them a toast for ultras if numbers are there, then sure!


Why not change fungal back to what it was when WoL got released then? No one said they were imba back then and practically no one used Infestors.

Why not change Tanks back to what it was when WoL got released then?

And 60 health scvs

we need dem 60 health scvs.


And 1 supply 2 armor roaches!


Let's not get too crazy here my friend. We don't want that. And by we, I mean terrans.


i think protosses would also agree on this matter
this is a quote
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1807
On October 27 2013 05:01 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:59 iAmJeffReY wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:59 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:58 iAmJeffReY wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:56 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:55 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:53 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote:
Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage.


Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly?


No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time.

If by “useless," you mean it makes any units caught in them a toast for ultras if numbers are there, then sure!


Why not change fungal back to what it was when WoL got released then? No one said they were imba back then and practically no one used Infestors.

Why not change Tanks back to what it was when WoL got released then?

And 60 health scvs

we need dem 60 health scvs.


And 1 supply 2 armor roaches!


Let's not get too crazy here my friend. We don't want that. And by we, I mean terrans.


i think protosses would also agree on this matter

Who cares about those aliens. You fuckers win everything.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1808
On October 27 2013 05:00 openbox1 wrote:
sometimes don't understand why Gretorp says what he says.


Don't try to understand it.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1809
On October 27 2013 04:59 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:58 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:57 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:56 TT1 wrote:
hack is gonna crush soulkey
#blessed


That is a brave blessing.

Hack! True Terran of StarTale!

I have a lot of questions. First of all, how dare you?

Name dat show.

I actually like Bomber, but I also like giving Wintex a hard time. I'm bad at shows
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
veKtory
Profile Joined June 2012
233 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 20:02:04
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1810
On October 27 2013 05:00 wUndertUnge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:56 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:55 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:53 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote:
Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage.


Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly?


No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time.

If by “useless," you mean it makes any units caught in them a toast for ultras if numbers are there, then sure!


Why not change fungal back to what it was when WoL got released then? No one said they were imba back then and practically no one used Infestors.

Why not change Tanks back to what it was when WoL got released then?


He was being sarcastic. Like this "Yeah, no one used infestors or broodlords. X) #sarcasm


Maybe you weren't around before Fungals were buffed to do the same damage in half the time, but before that practically no one used Fungals.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1811
--- Nuked ---
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1812
On October 27 2013 05:01 DJHelium wrote:
I'm still watching vods from yesterday at the same time, and WOW game 1 between Maru and Duckdeok was insane. I hope, belive and am willing to bet that Maru takes this tournament!

Maru vs Soulkey finals would be great!


Best game of yesterday was g1.
Moderator
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1813
On October 27 2013 05:00 Fjodorov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:58 iAmJeffReY wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:56 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:55 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:53 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote:
Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage.


Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly?


No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time.

If by “useless," you mean it makes any units caught in them a toast for ultras if numbers are there, then sure!


Why not change fungal back to what it was when WoL got released then? No one said they were imba back then and practically no one used Infestors.

Why not change Tanks back to what it was when WoL got released then?

And 60 health scvs

we need dem 60 health scvs.


Indeed! They way all workes have to conform to the same stats and all, its pure communism god damnit.

remember, toss assimilators have more health than the ones from t/z.
stop this injustice, blizzard!
TL+ Member
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1814
On October 27 2013 04:58 veKtory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:57 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:54 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:54 wUndertUnge wrote:
[Qhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433331UOTE]On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote:
Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before it held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage.
No, fungal was not the issue in that engagement. I don't think the entire was there and not enough lings or banes.


Just sucks to see HUGE FUNGAL ON THE ENTIRE ARMY.....Literally did like no damage.


fungals arent meant to kill. they are meant to hold your units in place while other units close in and finish the job preventing the m from retreating alive...


Then like I said why didn't they change it back to the duration it was when WoL got released? It lasted DOUBLE the amount of time. So basically Blizzard nerfed the damage of the spell AND the duration.[/QUOTE]

Pretty ill informed view. If a fungal isnt coupled with Ultra AoE or result in the death of the bio mass, then what good is it? Whether those marines/marauders are 1 hp or full hp, guess what, they are doing FULL damage. The longer they live REGARDLESS of their health, the more you are getting owned.

Jaedong failed to position his ultras into anything but a bottleneck hitting at most a few bio units and only granting 1-2 ultras to attack. What a dumb idea.

And then ALL of the broodlord supply WASNT EVEN IN THE ENGAGEMENT.

Also, Terran had a much LARGER army supply since he didnt have SCVS.

So lets recap:

Much larger terran army, zerg sends into terrible choke, zerg only sends part of army....???

The only reasonable conclusion is Zerg gets pwned. And thats exactly what we saw and what we wanted.
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1815
On October 27 2013 05:00 Thezzy wrote:
Not another 2 Fac BFH opening...why do Terrans still do this?

I think it worked for him against JD in WCS AM a week or so ago
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1816
On October 27 2013 04:59 veKtory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:58 Paljas wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:56 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:55 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:53 veKtory wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote:
Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage.


Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly?


No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time.

If by “useless," you mean it makes any units caught in them a toast for ultras if numbers are there, then sure!


Why not change fungal back to what it was when WoL got released then? No one said they were imba back then and practically no one used Infestors.

Why not change Tanks back to what it was when WoL got released then?

btw, why not change mothership back to how it was in wol alpha


Because no one thought fungals were imba? Basically Blizzard buffed Fungal to do the same amount of damage in half the time. Now they nerf the damage but never changed the time back, making it the worst the spell has ever been.


Let's go back to the second half of 2012, where everyone was so frustrated with Zerg, that Tastosis laughed their ass off at the GSL finals, because the blords infestor wars were getting so stupid. The marvelous time, where being good at ZvZ instantly made you the best player in the world (hello roro, sup sniper). Yeah those were the times.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 26 2013 20:01 GMT
#1817
wait...is this the Polt build?
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 26 2013 20:02 GMT
#1818
Slow lings? You're such a bum Hack.
Moderator
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 20:02:30
October 26 2013 20:02 GMT
#1819
BFH + Marauder!? Zyzz!?
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
October 26 2013 20:02 GMT
#1820
On October 27 2013 05:00 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:56 zmansman17 wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:55 Weavel wrote:
Zergs are still #1 race in balance whining.


Yeah this is what I get from all of this.

Dunno why Zergs are bitching after that game.JD played shocking against MMA, his muta control wasnt good,and his late game leaves a lot to be desired

The amusing thing is when Polt lost vs Soulkey, there was like one guy saying banelings need to do friendly fire (and he deservedly got ripped). When JD loses the balance complaints come in full force.
Prev 1 89 90 91 92 93 331 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
SEL Ladder Invitational
CranKy Ducklings99
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
20:00
Mid Season Playoffs
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft457
RuFF_SC2 150
ProTech85
FoxeR 11
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3988
GuemChi 2264
Noble 78
Dota 2
The International29421
Gorgc109
NeuroSwarm103
Fuzer 97
Counter-Strike
summit1g7908
minikerr60
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox945
Mew2King38
Other Games
Maynarde166
ViBE164
C9.Mang0161
ROOTCatZ30
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH252
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP7
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21005
League of Legends
• Stunt856
• Rush812
Upcoming Events
Escore
6h 41m
PiG Sty Festival
8h 41m
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
ShoWTimE vs Zoun
Big Brain Bouts
12h 41m
Nicoract vs Neeb
TriGGeR vs ShoWTimE
CranKy Ducklings
1d 6h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 8h
herO vs Krystianer
Solar vs Cure
IPSL
1d 12h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Maru vs Shameless
Reynor vs TriGGeR
IPSL
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The Patches Monday
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-13
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W7
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
META DYMY #4
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.