[WCS AM] Finals Day 2 Premier Season 3 2013 - Page 75
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
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Green_25
Great Britain696 Posts
On October 21 2013 11:02 Zarahtra wrote: I really don't understand that raven... I mean he's actually making an effort to fit it in, you reckon it is to prevent observers from spotting his army movements without having to scan? Maybe he's worked out that it saves him money from scans longterm or something... | ||
sparklyresidue
United States5522 Posts
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Jono7272
United Kingdom6330 Posts
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On October 21 2013 11:03 DJHelium wrote: Did he use PDD? Seems good to protect your vikings vs stalkers. He did use PDD, but it's not like PDD is very good against feedback and just having the raven is risky vs feedback. Because yer, he's making the turrets against dts and not using the raven for fx. auto turret harass or something gimmicky. It hasn't paid off in any straight-forwards way, so I'm kind of thinking that he's using it to deter observers to allow for his doom drop style. | ||
VictorX
United States773 Posts
On October 21 2013 11:04 Noocta wrote: He's using it for PDD to pick off the colossus But Oz was very Stalker lite, so it didn't really mater. It might just be for wiping obs. He's trading gas, a resource Terran has too much of in 3base, for MULEs (minerals), a resource Terran can't have enough of in TvP. Also we see that late game DT harass has been the death of many many many Terrans. Perhaps Polt is reading into the current PvT meta and covering all his bases. | ||
Noocta
France12578 Posts
People get mad at Terrans for never trying it out, and Polt had found a way to get one without hindering his build, so why not ? | ||
Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On October 21 2013 11:02 openbox1 wrote: it cracks me up so much with the USA chants. Same with Stephano. Stephano vs Polt, the great American rivalry. | ||
DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On October 21 2013 11:05 Zarahtra wrote: He did use PDD, but it's not like PDD is very good against feedback and just having the raven is risky vs feedback. Because yer, he's making the turrets against dts and not using the raven for fx. auto turret harass or something gimmicky. It hasn't paid off in any straight-forwards way, so I'm kind of thinking that he's using it to deter observers to allow for his doom drop style. You're probably correct. Also terrans often banks a lot of gas late mid-late game, and he wants to get that second starport up anyway for more viking production. Makes the raven not that expensive. | ||
Green_25
Great Britain696 Posts
On October 21 2013 11:06 VictorX wrote: It might just be for wiping obs. He's trading gas, a resource Terran has too much of in 3base, for MULEs (minerals), a resource Terran can't have enough of in TvP. Also we see that late game DT harass has been the death of many many many Terrans. Perhaps Polt is reading into the current PvT meta and covering all his bases. Yeah I think this is it. Overall a raven is a nice thing to have, probably won't change the game much though. | ||
XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
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Fjodorov
5007 Posts
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plogamer
Canada3132 Posts
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openbox1
1393 Posts
On October 21 2013 11:04 Dark.Carnival wrote: Oz didn't play well that game but it looked even worse because derelict is such a bad map D: Don't think Polt has much chance against Dear or Trap at the season finals if he runs into them, the other protoss he can probably win against. If Byul plays well he should be able to win against Polt, depends how much he lets nerves affect him :3 Don't know if I would be so dismissive about Polt, but yeah, Derelict is a terrible map for Toss. Even worse in PvZ. So hard to defend the third and the starting location against Terran and against Zerg, they're commonly surrounded when trying to move between the 2nd and 3rd bases in that huge open space. The gigantic ramp doesn't help much either. | ||
Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On October 21 2013 11:06 VictorX wrote: It might just be for wiping obs. He's trading gas, a resource Terran has too much of in 3base, for MULEs (minerals), a resource Terran can't have enough of in TvP. Also we see that late game DT harass has been the death of many many many Terrans. Perhaps Polt is reading into the current PvT meta and covering all his bases. At that time in the game, terran does not have to much gas, infact terran is around that time heavily gas starved. It's right after that, that you start floating the gas. That's why I'm not sure about the raven, adding 200 gas cost is painful on upgrades, vikings/medivacs, ghosts and infrastructure | ||
FrvPssn
France402 Posts
Too bad for JD, I was hoping for a final rematch.... | ||
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
Poll: Final score? Polt 4-2 (7) Polt 4-1 (6) Polt 4-3 (4) Polt 4-0 (2) ByuL 4-0 (2) ByuL 4-3 (0) ByuL 4-2 (0) ByuL 4-1 (0) 21 total votes Your vote: Final score? (Vote): Polt 4-0 | ||
DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On October 21 2013 11:08 Zarahtra wrote: At that time in the game, terran does not have to much gas, infact terran is around that time heavily gas starved. It's right after that, that you start floating the gas. That's why I'm not sure about the raven, adding 200 gas cost is painful on upgrades, vikings/medivacs, ghosts and infrastructure Don't forget Polt add the second starport a bit later than usual, going for the 8 rax beforehand. He's a bit more ease on the gas at that point. | ||
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