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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24584 Posts
October 11 2013 18:06 GMT
#961
On October 12 2013 03:05 GumBa wrote:
What happend game 3 hack naniwa? I played a ladder game so I didnt watch


Essentially SCV pull with too few vikings into sim-city against three colossus. There were some cool mindgames and stuff before that.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 11 2013 18:06 GMT
#962
Inb4Redeyedropsthem
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
October 11 2013 18:06 GMT
#963
thees shoes are fucking sick
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 18:07:00
October 11 2013 18:06 GMT
#964
On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:
"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins


I don't think it was the risky.


It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution.



There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet.


I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p

Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time).


a 4 man list from a player pool of 150-200 seems good to me.
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12276 Posts
October 11 2013 18:06 GMT
#965
On October 12 2013 03:05 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:
"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins


I don't think it was the risky.


It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution.



There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet.


I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p

Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time).



Protoss can put pressure faster than terran because terran first needs to research stim etc. before that terran needs to hide behind the bunkers.


Pressure out of a 9-minute 1-gate? :&
No will to live, no wish to die
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17683 Posts
October 11 2013 18:06 GMT
#966
lol Shanghai gives him sick nerd baller shoes and Hero says he loves New York, I think he was confused, probably needed a translator.
"Expert" mods4ever.com
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
October 11 2013 18:07 GMT
#967
not sure why he got those shoes but ok
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 18:07 GMT
#968
On October 12 2013 03:05 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa

What is wrong with you.


He's perfectly fine. You're the twisted one : P

People like Naniwa because he's a foreigner. People like HerO because he's the shit. So I am correct here!
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17683 Posts
October 11 2013 18:07 GMT
#969
On October 12 2013 03:07 TAMinator wrote:
not sure why he got those shoes but ok

It was because he won sick nerd baller at IEM Shanghai I think.
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 18:07 GMT
#970
On October 12 2013 03:06 Shellshock wrote:
Revival should have won SNB

I don't know how the tournament winner doesn't win the MVP of the tournament in a 1v1 game.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 11 2013 18:08 GMT
#971
And then it's the wrong size
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
October 11 2013 18:08 GMT
#972
Yay apollo and tod!
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
October 11 2013 18:08 GMT
#973
Sue (이수민) @sullyrabbit 6m

So sorry back to the hotel for me. Threw up this morning, still felt like throwing up more at venue, got headaches chills fever coughs.


Jeez, hope Smix recovers fast.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
October 11 2013 18:08 GMT
#974
On October 12 2013 03:06 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:05 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:
"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins


I don't think it was the risky.


It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution.



There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet.


I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p

Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time).



Protoss can put pressure faster than terran because terran first needs to research stim etc. before that terran needs to hide behind the bunkers.


Pressure out of a 9-minute 1-gate? :&


I was talking about the situation where both players go for greedy builds. Protoss will be able to attack first. Terran gets dangerous only after stim, shield etc. Before that you hide behind bunkers against any aggression because if you dont, early on you will die to protoss
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 18:09:13
October 11 2013 18:09 GMT
#975
On October 12 2013 03:06 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:
"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins


I don't think it was the risky.


It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution.



There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet.


I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p

Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time).


a 4 man list from a player pool of 150-200 seems good to me.


Off the top of my head Maru, Gumiho, Polt. I want to say Flash did it too but I don't have an example.

Also you have to take into account that most protosses don't do this build right now.
No will to live, no wish to die
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
October 11 2013 18:09 GMT
#976
Crowd seems dead. I hope it gets better as the day goes along.
Don't mind me
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8585 Posts
October 11 2013 18:09 GMT
#977
On October 12 2013 03:05 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:
"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins


I don't think it was the risky.


It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution.



There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet.


I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p

Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time).



Protoss can put pressure faster than terran because terran first needs to research stim etc. before that terran needs to hide behind the bunkers.


Apparently you haven't been on top of the meta game there...
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 11 2013 18:09 GMT
#978
On October 12 2013 03:02 ACrow wrote:
ESL has like the worst filler music ever.

Would you like to hear PRAY FOR THE LOST AND THE LONELY again?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 11 2013 18:09 GMT
#979
On October 12 2013 03:06 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:05 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:
"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins


I don't think it was the risky.


It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution.



There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet.


I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p

Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time).



Protoss can put pressure faster than terran because terran first needs to research stim etc. before that terran needs to hide behind the bunkers.


Pressure out of a 9-minute 1-gate? :&


I think the key is reasonably speaking, when can terrans scout this (assuming no reaper opening). And if they do go greedy after scouting it, does game even out.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 11 2013 18:10 GMT
#980
On October 12 2013 03:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
Sue (이수민) @sullyrabbit 6m

So sorry back to the hotel for me. Threw up this morning, still felt like throwing up more at venue, got headaches chills fever coughs.


Jeez, hope Smix recovers fast.


[Morning-sickness HuK joke]

But yeah quick recover gogo :/
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
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