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On October 12 2013 03:05 GumBa wrote:
What happend game 3 hack naniwa? I played a ladder game so I didnt watch
Essentially SCV pull with too few vikings into sim-city against three colossus. There were some cool mindgames and stuff before that.
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thees shoes are fucking sick
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins  I don't think it was the risky. It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution. There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet. I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time).
a 4 man list from a player pool of 150-200 seems good to me.
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On October 12 2013 03:05 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins I don't think it was the risky. It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution. There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet. I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time). Protoss can put pressure faster than terran because terran first needs to research stim etc. before that terran needs to hide behind the bunkers.
Pressure out of a 9-minute 1-gate? :&
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lol Shanghai gives him sick nerd baller shoes and Hero says he loves New York, I think he was confused, probably needed a translator.
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not sure why he got those shoes but ok
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United States23455 Posts
On October 12 2013 03:05 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa  What is wrong with you. He's perfectly fine. You're the twisted one : P
People like Naniwa because he's a foreigner. People like HerO because he's the shit. So I am correct here! 
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On October 12 2013 03:07 TAMinator wrote:
not sure why he got those shoes but ok
It was because he won sick nerd baller at IEM Shanghai I think.
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United States23455 Posts
On October 12 2013 03:06 Shellshock wrote:
Revival should have won SNB
I don't know how the tournament winner doesn't win the MVP of the tournament in a 1v1 game.
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And then it's the wrong size
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Sue (이수민) @sullyrabbit 6m So sorry back to the hotel for me. Threw up this morning, still felt like throwing up more at venue, got headaches chills fever coughs.
Jeez, hope Smix recovers fast.
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On October 12 2013 03:06 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:05 Qwerty85 wrote:On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins I don't think it was the risky. It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution. There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet. I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time). Protoss can put pressure faster than terran because terran first needs to research stim etc. before that terran needs to hide behind the bunkers. Pressure out of a 9-minute 1-gate? :&
I was talking about the situation where both players go for greedy builds. Protoss will be able to attack first. Terran gets dangerous only after stim, shield etc. Before that you hide behind bunkers against any aggression because if you dont, early on you will die to protoss
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On October 12 2013 03:06 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins I don't think it was the risky. It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution. There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet. I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time). a 4 man list from a player pool of 150-200 seems good to me.
Off the top of my head Maru, Gumiho, Polt. I want to say Flash did it too but I don't have an example.
Also you have to take into account that most protosses don't do this build right now.
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Crowd seems dead. I hope it gets better as the day goes along.
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On October 12 2013 03:05 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins I don't think it was the risky. It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution. There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet. I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time). Protoss can put pressure faster than terran because terran first needs to research stim etc. before that terran needs to hide behind the bunkers.
Apparently you haven't been on top of the meta game there...
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On October 12 2013 03:02 ACrow wrote:
ESL has like the worst filler music ever.
Would you like to hear PRAY FOR THE LOST AND THE LONELY again?
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On October 12 2013 03:06 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:05 Qwerty85 wrote:On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins I don't think it was the risky. It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution. There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet. I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time). Protoss can put pressure faster than terran because terran first needs to research stim etc. before that terran needs to hide behind the bunkers. Pressure out of a 9-minute 1-gate? :&
I think the key is reasonably speaking, when can terrans scout this (assuming no reaper opening). And if they do go greedy after scouting it, does game even out.
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On October 12 2013 03:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:Show nested quote +Sue (이수민) @sullyrabbit 6m So sorry back to the hotel for me. Threw up this morning, still felt like throwing up more at venue, got headaches chills fever coughs. Jeez, hope Smix recovers fast.
[Morning-sickness HuK joke]
But yeah quick recover gogo :/
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