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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On October 12 2013 03:09 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:06 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins  I don't think it was the risky. It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution. There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet. I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time). a 4 man list from a player pool of 150-200 seems good to me. Off the top of my head Maru, Gumiho, Polt. I want to say Flash did it too but I don't have an example. Also you have to take into account that most protosses don't do this build right now.
6 man list then? I don't count Flash because I also can't remember him playing against this build.
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United States97276 Posts
On October 12 2013 03:09 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:02 ACrow wrote:
ESL has like the worst filler music ever. Would you like to hear PRAY FOR THE LOST AND THE LONELY again?
I would prefer for dancing to a broken heart beat
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Can't wait to see HerO play in the "Grand Final"!
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On October 12 2013 03:09 ptbl wrote:
Crowd seems dead. I hope it gets better as the day goes along.
Being held at Comic-Con, I assume the audience is visiting other venues and exhibitions? Could be an epic Q&A going on as well.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On October 12 2013 03:10 PhoenixVoid wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:09 ptbl wrote:
Crowd seems dead. I hope it gets better as the day goes along. Being held at Comic-Con, I assume the audience is visiting other venues and exhibitions? Could be an epic Q&A going on as well.
after the game ends, the crowd leaves. That's just how cons are.
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On October 12 2013 03:10 R1CH wrote:
Can't wait to see HerO play in the "Grand Final"!
Seriously whats up with IEM calling group finals Grand Final?!
What do they call the "Grand Final"?
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Who's the other guy on the MLG stream?
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United States23455 Posts
On October 12 2013 03:11 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:10 R1CH wrote:
Can't wait to see HerO play in the "Grand Final"! Seriously whats up with IEM calling group finals Grand Final?! What do they call the "Grand Final"?
The Supreme Master Final
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On October 12 2013 03:09 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:05 Qwerty85 wrote:On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins I don't think it was the risky. It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution. There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet. I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time). Protoss can put pressure faster than terran because terran first needs to research stim etc. before that terran needs to hide behind the bunkers. Apparently you haven't been on top of the meta game there...
I am not sure I follow your reasoning. I was merely speaking about game design. Marines without combat shield and stim are bad, marauders are bit better but if both players open greedy protoss is the one who will be able to attack first.
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United States97276 Posts
On October 12 2013 03:11 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:10 R1CH wrote:
Can't wait to see HerO play in the "Grand Final"! Seriously whats up with IEM calling group finals Grand Final?! What do they call the "Grand Final"?
Grander Final
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NaNiWa with the pre-match handshake.
Odds of a post game one if he loses?
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On October 12 2013 03:10 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:09 Daralii wrote:On October 12 2013 03:02 ACrow wrote:
ESL has like the worst filler music ever. Would you like to hear PRAY FOR THE LOST AND THE LONELY again? I would prefer for dancing to a broken heart beat
NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NANANA NAAA NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NANANANA
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On October 12 2013 03:11 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:11 Tobblish wrote:On October 12 2013 03:10 R1CH wrote:
Can't wait to see HerO play in the "Grand Final"! Seriously whats up with IEM calling group finals Grand Final?! What do they call the "Grand Final"? Grander Final
Great Final
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United States23455 Posts
On October 12 2013 03:11 Zorkmid wrote:
NaNiWa with the pre-match handshake.
Odds of a post game one if he loses?
Against HerO pretty good chance. Pretty manner.
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On October 12 2013 03:11 Zorkmid wrote:
NaNiWa with the pre-match handshake.
Odds of a post game one if he loses?
If he stays true to himself, he should refuse the "offensive handshake".
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Hack isn't that good...it sucks that the Korean beasts in Polt and ForGG couldn't come.
What happened with Group A? It says the last game should have been played but liquipedia doesn't show the results!
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On October 12 2013 03:11 Zorkmid wrote:
NaNiWa with the pre-match handshake.
Odds of a post game one if he loses?
He plays against HerO so chances are actually there.
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On October 12 2013 03:12 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:11 Shellshock wrote:On October 12 2013 03:11 Tobblish wrote:On October 12 2013 03:10 R1CH wrote:
Can't wait to see HerO play in the "Grand Final"! Seriously whats up with IEM calling group finals Grand Final?! What do they call the "Grand Final"? Grander Final Great Final
Super Mega Ultra Thunder Combo X-7000 Finals Edition.
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United States23455 Posts
America falling in the losers match right now 
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United States97276 Posts
On October 12 2013 03:12 Xrero wrote:
Hack isn't that good...it sucks that the Korean beasts in Polt and ForGG couldn't come.
What happened with Group A? It says the last game should have been played but liquipedia doesn't show the results!
liquipedia says the last game of the group is played tomorrow. I think they did the same thing at IEM Shanghai
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