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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24603 Posts
October 11 2013 18:19 GMT
#1021
More than 200 gas lost for Hero
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 18:19 GMT
#1022
Psh that really didn't matter that much HerO still way in this.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 11 2013 18:19 GMT
#1023
On October 12 2013 03:17 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:10 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:09 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:06 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:
"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins


I don't think it was the risky.


It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution.



There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet.


I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p

Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time).


a 4 man list from a player pool of 150-200 seems good to me.


Off the top of my head Maru, Gumiho, Polt. I want to say Flash did it too but I don't have an example.

Also you have to take into account that most protosses don't do this build right now.


6 man list then? I don't count Flash because I also can't remember him playing against this build.


6 man list is good, because it's not 6 out of 150-200, and it's not the exact top 6 out of the 200. In the 150-200, you will find that most simply haven't played against that build.

Again I'm not saying it isn't unbreakable. It could be. It just feels to early to state it like it's a certainty, especially when most protosses don't go for it.


Well its not an ultimate build order. There are no ultimate build orders now that infestors have been patched.
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robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 11 2013 18:21 GMT
#1024
Lol this game.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
October 11 2013 18:21 GMT
#1025
wow sick moves by HerO, doing the only thing possible with his 3 immos.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 11 2013 18:21 GMT
#1026
Im just saying

u werent loss
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
October 11 2013 18:21 GMT
#1027
Great Nexus snipe from HerO. Despite his slight disadvantage, he took the opportunity to exploit NaNiwa's economy focus.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24603 Posts
October 11 2013 18:21 GMT
#1028
The classic Bel'shir move in PvP
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
October 11 2013 18:21 GMT
#1029
Well, fuck.
hundred thousand krouner
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11084 Posts
October 11 2013 18:21 GMT
#1030
Very clean attack. Hurts a lot for Naniwa.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 11 2013 18:22 GMT
#1031
naniwa. are you insane. how are you goign to support 8 gates and a robo from 2 base.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 11 2013 18:22 GMT
#1032
On October 12 2013 03:18 robson1 wrote:
Tod bro. Best analysis.


Yeh I can't wait till all the casters are top level players or ex players, it will make for incredible analysis every cast and make some of the analysis we get today look totally amateurish.
We have seen casting from Guys like Grubby, Idra and Tod and it has been superb, want more of the same
Zerg for Life
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 18:24:44
October 11 2013 18:23 GMT
#1033
On October 12 2013 03:22 robson1 wrote:
naniwa. are you insane. how are you goign to support 8 gates and a robo from 2 base.


2 base timing? he does not need to support it for long.

//edit: oh wow he is playign it out with a third. but he is like extemely much behind now. I don't like naniwa's position - or oh now I see it he is faking the third I think
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 18:24:29
October 11 2013 18:23 GMT
#1034
Needs a warp prism or some sort of harassment or something to get back into this game.

edit: This game is done.Bleh needs to try to harass or toss needs a reaver like option to chip back into the game from a nexus loss.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
October 11 2013 18:24 GMT
#1035
On October 12 2013 03:23 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:22 robson1 wrote:
naniwa. are you insane. how are you goign to support 8 gates and a robo from 2 base.


2 base timing? he does not need to support it for long.


Its only 7 i think, and yeah, you usually just build the extra one for 1-2 warp-ins. But most likely it is just for defense.. Going for the long game and having a lot of warp gates as backup.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 11 2013 18:24 GMT
#1036
On October 12 2013 03:23 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:22 robson1 wrote:
naniwa. are you insane. how are you goign to support 8 gates and a robo from 2 base.


2 base timing? he does not need to support it for long.


he's not doing it though
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 11 2013 18:25 GMT
#1037
That's it this game is over.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 18:27:28
October 11 2013 18:25 GMT
#1038
Just played like a fiddle.

The nexus snipe was so brutal. Didn't get anything for it because of FFs. Needed an immediate warp prism or a gamble with an even faster third- maybe.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
October 11 2013 18:25 GMT
#1039
Tod: "He's trying to make this happen right now". Someone has been hanging out with Khaldor :O
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
October 11 2013 18:26 GMT
#1040
nah not going to work - too far behind after the nexus snipe.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
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