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On October 12 2013 03:12 Xrero wrote: Hack isn't that good...it sucks that the Korean beasts in Polt and ForGG couldn't come.
What happened with Group A? It says the last game should have been played but liquipedia doesn't show the results! last games are played tomorrow. from every group
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On October 12 2013 03:12 Xrero wrote: Hack isn't that good...it sucks that the Korean beasts in Polt and ForGG couldn't come.
What happened with Group A? It says the last game should have been played but liquipedia doesn't show the results! The final loser's matches of each group is being played tomorrow to be compact today.
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On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa What is wrong with you.
Probably a lot.
On October 12 2013 03:05 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa What is wrong with you. He is EG fan
Yup. And I don't dislike Hero; I just like Naniwa more
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What the hell QXC is doing a proxy rax against Hack.
Double proxy reaper.
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On October 12 2013 03:11 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:09 Doublemint wrote:On October 12 2013 03:05 Qwerty85 wrote:On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins  I don't think it was the risky. It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution. There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet. I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time). Protoss can put pressure faster than terran because terran first needs to research stim etc. before that terran needs to hide behind the bunkers. Apparently you haven't been on top of the meta game there... I am not sure I follow your reasoning. I was merely speaking about game design. Marines without combat shield and stim are bad, marauders are bit better but if both players open greedy protoss is the one who will be able to attack first.
Marine moveouts before stim are so common nowadays. MC vs. MMA on Akilon wastes for example. And "if both are opening greedy" is a lot of ifs and coulda shoulda.
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On October 12 2013 03:13 Darkhoarse wrote: What the hell QXC is doing a proxy rax against Hack.
Double proxy reaper.
Went to the Korean school of planning a series.
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On October 12 2013 03:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa What is wrong with you. Probably a lot. Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:05 Grettin wrote:On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa What is wrong with you. He is EG fan Yup. And I don't dislike Hero; I just like Naniwa more Never been a Naniwa fan. Not like a massive anti-fan, just don't like him very much.
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I love watching PvP, especially with two great players like we have here.
Hero vs Naniwa, so sweet
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Oh qxc, what a crazy fucking build.
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Was that build ever stupid from qxc
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On October 12 2013 03:15 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa What is wrong with you. Probably a lot. On October 12 2013 03:05 Grettin wrote:On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa What is wrong with you. He is EG fan Yup. And I don't dislike Hero; I just like Naniwa more Never been a Naniwa fan. Not like a massive anti-fan, just don't like him very much.
I mean how could you not like him. He's such a likeable persona.
(Not hating. I respect him very very much as a player. But he's not exactly a nice guy in public)
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On October 12 2013 03:16 Darkhoarse wrote: Was that build ever stupid from qxc
What'd he do? Watching naniwa hero.
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On October 12 2013 03:17 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:15 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 12 2013 03:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa What is wrong with you. Probably a lot. On October 12 2013 03:05 Grettin wrote:On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa What is wrong with you. He is EG fan Yup. And I don't dislike Hero; I just like Naniwa more Never been a Naniwa fan. Not like a massive anti-fan, just don't like him very much. I mean how could you not like him. He's such a likeable persona. (Not hating. I respect him very very much as a player. But he's not exactly a nice guy in public)
Eat shit and die is just the cultural way of saying good game, well played in Swedish.
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On October 12 2013 03:10 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:09 Nebuchad wrote:On October 12 2013 03:06 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins  I don't think it was the risky. It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution. There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet. I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time). a 4 man list from a player pool of 150-200 seems good to me. Off the top of my head Maru, Gumiho, Polt. I want to say Flash did it too but I don't have an example. Also you have to take into account that most protosses don't do this build right now. 6 man list then? I don't count Flash because I also can't remember him playing against this build.
6 man list is good, because it's not 6 out of 150-200, and it's not the exact top 6 out of the 200. In the 150-200, you will find that most simply haven't played against that build.
Again I'm not saying it isn't unbreakable. It could be. It just feels to early to state it like it's a certainty, especially when most protosses don't go for it.
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lol wtf HerO... I mean great for nani but come on what a blunder there.
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