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75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
October 11 2013 18:13 GMT
#1001
On October 12 2013 03:12 Xrero wrote:
Hack isn't that good...it sucks that the Korean beasts in Polt and ForGG couldn't come.

What happened with Group A? It says the last game should have been played but liquipedia doesn't show the results!

last games are played tomorrow. from every group
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
October 11 2013 18:13 GMT
#1002
On October 12 2013 03:12 Xrero wrote:
Hack isn't that good...it sucks that the Korean beasts in Polt and ForGG couldn't come.

What happened with Group A? It says the last game should have been played but liquipedia doesn't show the results!

The final loser's matches of each group is being played tomorrow to be compact today.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 18:13:57
October 11 2013 18:13 GMT
#1003
*ninjas everywhere
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45856 Posts
October 11 2013 18:13 GMT
#1004
On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa

What is wrong with you.


Probably a lot.

On October 12 2013 03:05 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa

What is wrong with you.


He is EG fan


Yup. And I don't dislike Hero; I just like Naniwa more
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 18:14:30
October 11 2013 18:13 GMT
#1005
What the hell QXC is doing a proxy rax against Hack.

Double proxy reaper.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
October 11 2013 18:13 GMT
#1006
On October 12 2013 03:11 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:09 Doublemint wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:05 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:
"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins


I don't think it was the risky.


It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution.



There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet.


I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p

Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time).



Protoss can put pressure faster than terran because terran first needs to research stim etc. before that terran needs to hide behind the bunkers.


Apparently you haven't been on top of the meta game there...



I am not sure I follow your reasoning. I was merely speaking about game design. Marines without combat shield and stim are bad, marauders are bit better but if both players open greedy protoss is the one who will be able to attack first.


Marine moveouts before stim are so common nowadays. MC vs. MMA on Akilon wastes for example. And "if both are opening greedy" is a lot of ifs and coulda shoulda.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 11 2013 18:14 GMT
#1007
On October 12 2013 03:13 Darkhoarse wrote:
What the hell QXC is doing a proxy rax against Hack.

Double proxy reaper.


Went to the Korean school of planning a series.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 18:15 GMT
#1008
On October 12 2013 03:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa

What is wrong with you.


Probably a lot.

Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:05 Grettin wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa

What is wrong with you.


He is EG fan


Yup. And I don't dislike Hero; I just like Naniwa more

Never been a Naniwa fan. Not like a massive anti-fan, just don't like him very much.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 11 2013 18:16 GMT
#1009
I love watching PvP, especially with two great players like we have here.

Hero vs Naniwa, so sweet
Zerg for Life
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 11 2013 18:16 GMT
#1010
Oh qxc, what a crazy fucking build.
Moderator
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 18:16 GMT
#1011
Was that build ever stupid from qxc
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 11 2013 18:17 GMT
#1012
On October 12 2013 03:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa

What is wrong with you.


Probably a lot.

On October 12 2013 03:05 Grettin wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa

What is wrong with you.


He is EG fan


Yup. And I don't dislike Hero; I just like Naniwa more

Never been a Naniwa fan. Not like a massive anti-fan, just don't like him very much.


I mean how could you not like him. He's such a likeable persona.

(Not hating. I respect him very very much as a player. But he's not exactly a nice guy in public)
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
October 11 2013 18:17 GMT
#1013
On October 12 2013 03:16 Darkhoarse wrote:
Was that build ever stupid from qxc


What'd he do? Watching naniwa hero.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3396 Posts
October 11 2013 18:17 GMT
#1014
Qxc looks outclassed.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 11 2013 18:17 GMT
#1015
On October 12 2013 03:17 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa

What is wrong with you.


Probably a lot.

On October 12 2013 03:05 Grettin wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa

What is wrong with you.


He is EG fan


Yup. And I don't dislike Hero; I just like Naniwa more

Never been a Naniwa fan. Not like a massive anti-fan, just don't like him very much.


I mean how could you not like him. He's such a likeable persona.

(Not hating. I respect him very very much as a player. But he's not exactly a nice guy in public)


Eat shit and die is just the cultural way of saying good game, well played in Swedish.
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robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 11 2013 18:17 GMT
#1016
ruh roh hero,.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12454 Posts
October 11 2013 18:17 GMT
#1017
On October 12 2013 03:10 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:09 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:06 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:
"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins


I don't think it was the risky.


It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution.



There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet.


I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p

Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time).


a 4 man list from a player pool of 150-200 seems good to me.


Off the top of my head Maru, Gumiho, Polt. I want to say Flash did it too but I don't have an example.

Also you have to take into account that most protosses don't do this build right now.


6 man list then? I don't count Flash because I also can't remember him playing against this build.


6 man list is good, because it's not 6 out of 150-200, and it's not the exact top 6 out of the 200. In the 150-200, you will find that most simply haven't played against that build.

Again I'm not saying it isn't unbreakable. It could be. It just feels to early to state it like it's a certainty, especially when most protosses don't go for it.
No will to live, no wish to die
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 11 2013 18:17 GMT
#1018
First Blood!
Zerg for Life
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
October 11 2013 18:17 GMT
#1019
lol wtf HerO... I mean great for nani but come on what a blunder there.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 11 2013 18:18 GMT
#1020
Tod bro. Best analysis.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
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