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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
October 11 2013 18:02 GMT
#941
ESL has like the worst filler music ever.
Get off my lawn, young punks
sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
October 11 2013 18:02 GMT
#942
On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:
"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins


I don't think it was the risky.


It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution.



There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet.


Im used to play an aggressive 111 vs toss, with a fast 8 marine drop in order to trigger overcharge 1 or twice, and then i push with 3 tanks and double expand.
I can tell you if protoss open like naniwa did, its 100% win.
Thats why i think its very risky.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 11 2013 18:02 GMT
#943
Get ready to unleash the dt's >:D
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46212 Posts
October 11 2013 18:02 GMT
#944
Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18701 Posts
October 11 2013 18:03 GMT
#945
On October 12 2013 02:52 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 02:49 ImperialFist wrote:
I really don't feel that Hack is good compared to other koreans.



He's actually quite a solid player, mid Code S level. Definitely far superior to Nani.


No, Hack is in no way far superior to Nani...
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
October 11 2013 18:03 GMT
#946
Hmm. I can just find stats finding three series between HerO and Nani, two of them going 2-0 HerO and one 2-0 to Nani.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
October 11 2013 18:03 GMT
#947
On October 12 2013 03:02 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Get ready to unleash the dt's >:D


Stargate all the way
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
October 11 2013 18:03 GMT
#948
On October 12 2013 03:00 Wiggins8 wrote:
Was NaNi vs Hack any good? Worth to watch the VODs?

game 2 and 3 had some interesting build orders.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
October 11 2013 18:03 GMT
#949
On October 12 2013 03:02 ACrow wrote:
ESL has like the worst filler music ever.


feed me + deadmau mash-up whatever. Horrible.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12475 Posts
October 11 2013 18:04 GMT
#950
On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:
"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins


I don't think it was the risky.


It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution.



There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet.


I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p

Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time).
No will to live, no wish to die
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 11 2013 18:04 GMT
#951
On October 12 2013 03:02 ACrow wrote:
ESL has like the worst filler music ever.


It's a rare occasion for any tournament to have decent music.

Dreamhack doesn't care and just plays old school pop, which is just fun. So they win, in my opinion.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
October 11 2013 18:04 GMT
#952
I like that TV to the site of the booths so the audience can see the guy if it's covered up by their angle.
The curse is real
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 18:04 GMT
#953
On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa

What is wrong with you.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 11 2013 18:05 GMT
#954
What happend game 3 hack naniwa? I played a ladder game so I didnt watch
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
October 11 2013 18:05 GMT
#955
On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa

What is wrong with you.


He's perfectly fine. You're the twisted one : P
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 11 2013 18:05 GMT
#956
On October 12 2013 02:52 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 02:49 ImperialFist wrote:
I really don't feel that Hack is good compared to other koreans.



He's actually quite a solid player, mid Code S level. Definitely far superior to Nani.


If you lose to a player, any player, you aren't "far superior". I'd stretch to them being equals on most days, with Hack possibly having a higher average level. But Nani's peak level is probably higher than Hack's - only he doesn't play at it too often.
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Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
October 11 2013 18:05 GMT
#957
On October 12 2013 03:04 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:
"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins


I don't think it was the risky.


It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution.



There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet.


I mean every time a terran manages to do it he gets added to the list... After a time, the list doesn't look as impressive as when it started :p

Also if it turns out that Nani's build is safe (which is possible and an important point, after all it is close enough to the Oz build which was supposed to be safe and then got destroyed by Polt), then the next step is to see what happens when terran plays equally greedy, cause it doesn't look like Naniwa can get agressive out of this (especially when he doesn't seem to scout most of the time).



Protoss can put pressure faster than terran because terran first needs to research stim etc. before that terran needs to hide behind the bunkers.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
October 11 2013 18:05 GMT
#958
On October 12 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 03:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Head says Hero, heart says Naniwa

What is wrong with you.


He is EG fan
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
October 11 2013 18:05 GMT
#959
On October 12 2013 03:01 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 02:58 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:56 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 02:52 TheRooster wrote:
"Not take any risks" goes for third and stays on 1 gate for 9 mins


I don't think it was the risky.


It was greedy but apparently not risky. I don't want to get into MSC and Nexus canon debate but there is no denying that Blizzard really gave protoss opportunity to play greedy but also be safe with solid execution.



There might be a way to punish it, but you'd need the mechanics and control of Innovation/Taeja/Maru/Jjakji and while Hack is good,he isn't there yet.


There is. You basically need to get your army over there before the 3rd Nexus is finished.

I dont know though, I was wondering why hack went allin like that in game 2. Why not just kill the 3rd? Like 10-15 sec before he engaged naniwa could in no way hold that 3rd and nexus cannon had ran out. It just seemed like he went "ohh i can win it all right here" and pulled workers rather than play the game out ahead.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 11 2013 18:06 GMT
#960
Revival should have won SNB
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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