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Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
October 11 2013 22:25 GMT
#2501
If people would stop balance whining pls, the real question is - did Flash at all have an option, throughout the game, to get ghosts? If so, there is no balance problem. If not, there may be.
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
October 11 2013 22:25 GMT
#2502
This QQ here is pretty amazing. You guys realise Vipers can be sniped easily (They take the bonus damage, SNIPE OUTRANGES ABDUCT), and can be countered with anti-air (Vikings with raven support)?
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
October 11 2013 22:25 GMT
#2503
On October 12 2013 07:24 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 07:23 Davkaus wrote:
This game was embarrassing.

Vipers are not a well designed unit, but why did Flash go for mech when he knew Vipers exist? Poor decision making, you can not play mech. Not against Zerg, you just cannot play mech.

If you get yourself a viking count, you can in fact play mech.

Maybe the way to buff mech is to buff Vikings? Really the only good thing about Vikings is that you can reactor them, but no Terran wants to build them w/o it being necessary.
Frex
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland888 Posts
October 11 2013 22:25 GMT
#2504
It´s all good when we combine the attack upgrades for mech and air.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 22:25:55
October 11 2013 22:25 GMT
#2505
Damn, the whine... :-/ And it had been a good LR thread.

Anyway, time to get on with my day. Laters, fellas. Have a good one.
KT best KT ~ 2014
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
October 11 2013 22:25 GMT
#2506
On October 12 2013 07:24 scsnow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 07:23 dinosrwar wrote:
If only Terrans had some kind of anti-caster unit that could sniper other units or make them lose their energy ...


They would get pulled to zerg army


Just like they always get feedbacked in TvP EVERY TIME. /s
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 11 2013 22:25 GMT
#2507
On October 12 2013 07:23 DifuntO wrote:
Terran needs to use Ghosts when going mech but i'm not sure how easy that is.

No, Vikings are better.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 11 2013 22:25 GMT
#2508
On October 12 2013 07:24 scsnow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 07:23 dinosrwar wrote:
If only Terrans had some kind of anti-caster unit that could sniper other units or make them lose their energy ...


They would get pulled to zerg army


snipe range is longer than abduct and it fires instantly, three ghosts each casting one snipe will kill a viper before it could pull a unit if you scan ahead so you put the command in first.
edlover420
Profile Joined December 2012
349 Posts
October 11 2013 22:25 GMT
#2509
On October 12 2013 07:23 PerSe wrote:
well it was still enjoyable to watch even with the mech suckiness.


how was that possibly enjoyable to watch? it was like watching the undertaker beat john cena, who was blindfolded and with hands firmly tighten behind his back
b0rt_
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway931 Posts
October 11 2013 22:26 GMT
#2510
hahaha read all this garbage. Suddenly VIPERS have ruined the game and sc2 is broken. :D xD ....... zzzzzzzzzzz
Sepi
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland231 Posts
October 11 2013 22:26 GMT
#2511
LoL, the abducts. Guess after that game there is no question trying that shitty mech again. It belongs just to TvT.

Thats just shows that "thinking outside the box" doesnt pay in SC2. SO bad.
♞live like a windrammer as you fuck ♞
HerrHorst
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany140 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 22:26:35
October 11 2013 22:26 GMT
#2512
On October 12 2013 07:24 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 07:22 SniXSniPe wrote:
aight, back to LoL for me.


gl hf SC2, hopefully VotL improves things.


Thats a pretty terrible attitude, you can't sum that up as vipers there was a lot that went into the vipers being as effective as they were here.


It's an Live-Thread on TL you can't expect that the people are spending even one second thinking before they make their post.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 11 2013 22:26 GMT
#2513
On October 12 2013 07:24 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 07:22 SniXSniPe wrote:
aight, back to LoL for me.


gl hf SC2, hopefully VotL improves things.


Thats a pretty terrible attitude, you can't sum that up as vipers there was a lot that went into the vipers being as effective as they were here.


You can't sum up the experience of an entire game from just one game either, but there you go.
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purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
October 11 2013 22:26 GMT
#2514
flash played mech because he wanted to prove something, he said it in an interview.. he proved a lot.. i'm sad i had to watch such a game right now..
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
October 11 2013 22:26 GMT
#2515
i dont understand the terran tears here. Lets say there isnt a viper, then what is the zerg response to late game mech? to gg out?
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
October 11 2013 22:26 GMT
#2516
Flash never got a critical amount of vikings to deal with the vipers. He should have stop making so many thors when the muta switch was over.
Don't mind me
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 22:26 GMT
#2517
On October 12 2013 07:25 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 07:24 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 07:23 Davkaus wrote:
This game was embarrassing.

Vipers are not a well designed unit, but why did Flash go for mech when he knew Vipers exist? Poor decision making, you can not play mech. Not against Zerg, you just cannot play mech.

If you get yourself a viking count, you can in fact play mech.

Maybe the way to buff mech is to buff Vikings? Really the only good thing about Vikings is that you can reactor them, but no Terran wants to build them w/o it being necessary.

Well The combined mech/air upgrades is a buff to vikings so they go well with mech and can zone vipers fairly well
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Going4Gold
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom67 Posts
October 11 2013 22:26 GMT
#2518
Starcraft 2 will die long before LotV is released - and it deserves to die.

User was warned for this post
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
October 11 2013 22:26 GMT
#2519
On October 12 2013 07:23 DifuntO wrote:
Terran needs to use Ghosts when going mech but i'm not sure how easy that is.


Considering the gas cost of units like tanks, thors, vikings, gas cost of production (factories/starports) and upgrades, getting to ravens and ghosts is not really viable in my opinion. Unless you turtle completely but even then we saw zerg win such games, even with BC/raven on the field.
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
October 11 2013 22:26 GMT
#2520
On October 12 2013 07:25 aZealot wrote:
Damn, the whine... :-/ And it had been a good LR thread.

Anyway, time to get on with my day. Laters, fellas. Have a good one.


I'm disappointed in my Terran brethren. You'd think being the target of so much balance whining we'd learn not to do it.
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
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