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dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
October 11 2013 22:26 GMT
#2521
On October 12 2013 07:24 scsnow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 07:23 dinosrwar wrote:
If only Terrans had some kind of anti-caster unit that could sniper other units or make them lose their energy ...


They would get pulled to zerg army


But what if it could somehow turn invisible?
Omnidroid
Profile Joined November 2011
New Zealand214 Posts
October 11 2013 22:26 GMT
#2522
On October 12 2013 07:23 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 07:22 SniXSniPe wrote:
aight, back to LoL for me.


gl hf SC2, hopefully VotL improves things.

Void of the Legacy will probably improve things.

Somehow, that title applies to SC2 very much, I feel. :/
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 11 2013 22:26 GMT
#2523
On October 12 2013 07:25 rasnj wrote:
I don't understand this whine. Flash had like 60% of Curious' army supply. Not enough vikings(/ravens) to support his vikings. Kept moving around his mech instead of sieging positions. Left tanks almost a screen away from anything anti-air.

Hardly surprising he lost. Mech is not supposed to be a silverbullet that always works against any composition, when mobility matters most and your opponent has more army than you.


Siege and Zerg take 45677bases ? No... he had to do something. Compositions were wrong
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 22:27 GMT
#2524
Wow Curious so humble and manner
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
October 11 2013 22:27 GMT
#2525
On October 12 2013 07:25 sage_francis wrote:
Interesting game until vipers came out. Mass abduct is pretty ugly to watch.

abduct is fine.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
October 11 2013 22:27 GMT
#2526
What the fuck is going on in this thread?

Fuck off all of you whiners, no one will miss you.
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Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
October 11 2013 22:27 GMT
#2527
Omg the whine. Mech is really viable in ZvT.. people see one game with abducts and no viking support for mech army and immediately say mech is shit..

Really? Thats like playing bio without enough medivacs and saying Bio is shit.
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polarwolf
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
924 Posts
October 11 2013 22:27 GMT
#2528
has flash become so bad? It's the first time today I hear all the time that Flash is not as good anymore as before.
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
October 11 2013 22:27 GMT
#2529
On October 12 2013 07:23 dinosrwar wrote:
If only Terrans had some kind of anti-caster unit that could sniper other units or make them lose their energy ...

I cannot do anything else but quote this truth.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
October 11 2013 22:27 GMT
#2530
On October 12 2013 07:25 TheDwf wrote:
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On October 12 2013 07:23 DifuntO wrote:
Terran needs to use Ghosts when going mech but i'm not sure how easy that is.

No, Vikings are better.


are they really, though? you need a sizable viking count to have a shot, and if your viking numbers get too high your ground army is just going to get rolled over. though I guess it's possible that faster tank firing would help there

but the point isn't even that vipers are OP, it's that they're dumb. it's a crap design with a stupid meta built around it.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 11 2013 22:27 GMT
#2531
On October 12 2013 07:25 edlover420 wrote:
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On October 12 2013 07:23 PerSe wrote:
well it was still enjoyable to watch even with the mech suckiness.


how was that possibly enjoyable to watch? it was like watching the undertaker beat john cena, who was blindfolded and with hands firmly tighten behind his back


???

You DON'T want to see this? :p
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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1920 Posts
October 11 2013 22:28 GMT
#2532
sad to see flash never really managed to increase his viking count, he only had 2-3 at once so no chance to counter the vipers, but it was definitely cool to see something aside from 4M in TvZ <3 mech!
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
October 11 2013 22:28 GMT
#2533
On October 12 2013 07:23 Jerom wrote:
Yes, that was definitely very lame. I don't think curious deserved the win here. Maybe this wil open he eyes of blizzard.


I think he played extremely well.

I think Flash shouldn't have lost in that position, even with mech vs vipers (ravens are an extremely good later game option).
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Sepi
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland231 Posts
October 11 2013 22:28 GMT
#2534
On October 12 2013 07:25 Kasaraki wrote:
This QQ here is pretty amazing. You guys realise Vipers can be sniped easily (They take the bonus damage, SNIPE OUTRANGES ABDUCT), and can be countered with anti-air (Vikings with raven support)?


Yeah, sure spend like tons of gas to ghost (academy, mobeus, techlabs and raxes) as you could just do starport as you need the air control and vision anyway. No vikings are still the better option
♞live like a windrammer as you fuck ♞
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
October 11 2013 22:28 GMT
#2535
On October 12 2013 07:25 edlover420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 07:23 PerSe wrote:
well it was still enjoyable to watch even with the mech suckiness.


how was that possibly enjoyable to watch? it was like watching the undertaker beat john cena, who was blindfolded and with hands firmly tighten behind his back


Maybe people who watch the thrilling sport of what I'm guessing is wrestling have different ideas about what's exciting.

The game was hugely entertaining.
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 11 2013 22:28 GMT
#2536
On October 12 2013 07:27 polarwolf wrote:
has flash become so bad? It's the first time today I hear all the time that Flash is not as good anymore as before.


No, he's good. Just the hype of him being the greatest player of all time and he will be reborn as the first SC2 Bonjwa was overblown.
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mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
October 11 2013 22:28 GMT
#2537
what im pissed about is the fact that the sound was missing for 90% of this amazing game....
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Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
October 11 2013 22:28 GMT
#2538
On October 12 2013 07:27 negativedge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 07:25 TheDwf wrote:
On October 12 2013 07:23 DifuntO wrote:
Terran needs to use Ghosts when going mech but i'm not sure how easy that is.

No, Vikings are better.


are they really, though? you need a sizable viking count to have a shot, and if your viking numbers get too high your ground army is just going to get rolled over. though I guess it's possible that faster tank firing would help there

but the point isn't even that vipers are OP, it's that they're dumb. it's a crap design with a stupid meta built around it.


You switch to ravens, so the need for ground army dissapears. Mass ravens with viking support goes untouched.
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Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
October 11 2013 22:28 GMT
#2539
On October 12 2013 07:26 ptbl wrote:
Flash never got a critical amount of vikings to deal with the vipers. He should have stop making so many thors when the muta switch was over.


This pretty much. I am surprised that so many people blame Vipers, when in fact Flash played quite poorly.
moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
October 11 2013 22:28 GMT
#2540
Really great game, very close. Doesn't matter the balance, just focus on how awesome the game was.
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