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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
October 06 2013 15:23 GMT
#1021
On October 07 2013 00:21 TwiStEr wrote:
Again a Korean for WCS EU campion. This format sucks so ****ing much.

Im outta here!


HF doing whatever!
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
IcemanAsi
Profile Joined March 2011
Israel681 Posts
October 06 2013 15:23 GMT
#1022
Good fucking point by MMA
more overseer
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-06 15:24:09
October 06 2013 15:23 GMT
#1023
On October 07 2013 00:20 Keeemy wrote:
Yessss MMA <3

Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:20 Bazik wrote:
Vortix macros like a monster kills all the split atacks... trys to do a attack... 3 WM hits later he's loosing the game again :D

Wat. No.

The you probably didnt watch the moment. There was one wm which hit 30 zerg supply suddenly ( I saw the supply numbers after the hit). More banelings than zerglings.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
October 06 2013 15:23 GMT
#1024
So when terran doesn't split their marines against banelings, it's not banelings OP but the terrans fault for not splitting?

When zerg doesn't split against widow mines, its widow mines OP and not the zergs fault for not splitting?

That's what i am seeing. The winrates right now are in favor of zerg, so why would terran get a nerf?
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
October 06 2013 15:24 GMT
#1025
Well the advice... was almost as usefull as saying you should always build units in Starcraft2
miniskirt
Profile Joined December 2012
France487 Posts
October 06 2013 15:24 GMT
#1026
On October 07 2013 00:21 TwiStEr wrote:
Again a Korean for WCS EU campion. This format sucks so ****ing much.

Im outta here!

the format is great, the point repartition suck
Self-proclaimed best Feast and Grubby fan | also MVP MMA Fantasy Polt forGG Dayshi the french hope| Leenock, the sober version of stephano and Scarlett cutiepie <3
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
October 06 2013 15:24 GMT
#1027
On October 07 2013 00:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
Do not forget, that MMA offraces zerg too :D


I imagine he gets Ventral Sacs all the time
Year of MaxPax
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2720 Posts
October 06 2013 15:24 GMT
#1028
I bet practicing against Scarlett's mutabanelings does MMA's TvZ wonder.
very illegal and very uncool
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 06 2013 15:24 GMT
#1029
On October 07 2013 00:21 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:20 Larkin wrote:
Why did Vortix attack? He was doing just fine.


What else was he going to do?


Not blindly a move onto a minefield?

Unless you kill the whole army attacking into the Terran's base is just pointless, you know they're gonna have mines everywhere.

He should have used the chance to spread creep, harass with mutas, and start hive.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
October 06 2013 15:24 GMT
#1030
Even i thought MMA lived in Germany. wat -_-
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
October 06 2013 15:25 GMT
#1031
On October 07 2013 00:23 Jer99 wrote:
So when terran doesn't split their marines against banelings, it's not banelings OP but the terrans fault for not splitting?

When zerg doesn't split against widow mines, its widow mines OP and not the zergs fault for not splitting?

That's what i am seeing. The winrates right now are in favor of zerg, so why would terran get a nerf?


DK hates terran, isn't it obvious?
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-06 15:26:22
October 06 2013 15:25 GMT
#1032
On October 07 2013 00:23 Jer99 wrote:
So when terran doesn't split their marines against banelings, it's not banelings OP but the terrans fault for not splitting?

When zerg doesn't split against widow mines, its widow mines OP and not the zergs fault for not splitting?

That's what i am seeing. The winrates right now are in favor of zerg, so why would terran get a nerf?

Zerg and terran are entirely different in terms of unit control. For one thing, zerg units are mostly melee or very short range, meaning it's a hell of a lot harder to effectively work with the units when splitting, and they are also faster, meaning you have less control time, and banelings have a shorter range than WM, again adding to difficulty.
Plus WM are burrowed so you can't see them. Plus no medivacs to quickly pick up units etc etc.
It's just a different scenario entirely.

Another thing is it's BORING to see spam of MMWM. Who cares about balance when it's just boring as hell.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 06 2013 15:25 GMT
#1033
Hey look, MMA came back when he got back with Ryu Won.
Glorious SEA doto
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
October 06 2013 15:25 GMT
#1034
On October 07 2013 00:20 SkullZ9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:18 miniskirt wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:14 LimitSEA wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:12 miniskirt wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:09 liberate71 wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:08 LimitSEA wrote:
This whine is hilarious. I play zerg. Watching top tier zergs shows that if you can micro against widow mines, you can win. If you don't micro at all, you'll lose. See DRG vs Innovation.


Yerp. It IS unforgiving to take so much damage from widow mines, but it also is avoidable.

but it is so much more micro intensive to micro against WM than to do damage with them
in the end, zergs are more limited than terran because terrans needs less APM to do the same actions

It's also much more micro intensive to micro against banelings than it is to do damage with them, at least in TvZ.

let me rephrase
it's easier to do damage with WM than with banelings (you have to micro banelings)
it's easier to micro against banelings (even microed) than against WM (who doesn't get microed)


I completely agree with this, I don't know why people compare micro against banelings and WM

That's just because you can see the banelings (ZvZ). If WMs were not burrowed you'd probably find it VERY easy to micro against them.

The other big thing people are overlooking is the offensive capability of banelings vs WM. WM have to be positioned before (occasionally during) a fight. Banelings can attack.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 06 2013 15:25 GMT
#1035
Tbh, DRG put a clinic on how to play modern ZvT in his series against Inno.
It included actually using static defense.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 06 2013 15:25 GMT
#1036
On October 07 2013 00:24 argonautdice wrote:
I bet practicing against Scarlett's mutabanelings does MMA's TvZ wonder.

I'm willing to bet Scarlett and MMA rarely practice together. She's been on break, they're cross server, time zone differences, etc.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 06 2013 15:25 GMT
#1037
Ryu Won plz help me - MMA
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
October 06 2013 15:26 GMT
#1038
On October 07 2013 00:22 lolfail9001 wrote:
Lol, MMA, who plays like Innovation, that actually splits, against zerg, that happens to dominate EU GM ladder.
Complaints about WMs ensue.


i think mma is better than vortix to be honest .. but that doesnt mean vortix suck .. i see no european zerg doing that good against crazy constant pressure with limited bases who couldnt expand ..

the disgusting part that people complains is that .. mma was basically building nothing other than widow mines and marines .. and mass amount of them .. 5 mines at a time is just too much ..
this is a quote
Buff345
Profile Joined October 2010
United States323 Posts
October 06 2013 15:26 GMT
#1039
Nice recovery Incontrol lol I would have died with embarassment but you did ok
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
October 06 2013 15:26 GMT
#1040
On October 07 2013 00:23 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:20 Keeemy wrote:
Yessss MMA <3

On October 07 2013 00:20 Bazik wrote:
Vortix macros like a monster kills all the split atacks... trys to do a attack... 3 WM hits later he's loosing the game again :D

Wat. No.

The you probably didnt watch the moment. There was one wm which hit 30 zerg supply suddenly ( I saw the supply numbers after the hit). More banelings than zerglings.

But he didn't "macro like a monster". Or kill all the split attacks.

I don't even think his micro against mines was that good. He sent some lings/banes but after that just a-moved. Didn't really snipe the mines with his mutas or anything.
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