EPT[WCS EU] Finals Day 2 Premier Season 3 2013 - Page 54
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
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goody153
44159 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:25 Lonyo wrote: Zerg and terran are entirely different in terms of unit control. For one thing, zerg units are mostly melee or very short range, meaning it's a hell of a lot harder to effectively work with the units when splitting, and they are also faster, meaning you have less control time, and banelings have a shorter range than WM, again adding to difficulty. Plus WM are burrowed so you can't see them. Plus no medivacs to quickly pick up units etc etc. It's just a different scenario entirely. Another thing is it's BORING to see spam of MMWM. Who cares about balance when it's just boring as hell. yup no variety is boring .. if only marine tank is as viable as mmmm ... we wont see mmmm every single damn game .. and also marines are easier to split and banelings cant chase marines without creep .. splitting zerglings and banelings is harder since they clump too much, they are melee and the unit size is so small that one widow mine hit will kill 20-30 lings .. | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:28 Acer.Scarlett` wrote: In macro games I won but died a few times to his new early shenanigans :< You should do a video tutorial on macro ZvT =D | ||
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Keeemy
Finland7855 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:28 Acer.Scarlett` wrote: In macro games I won but died a few times to his new early shenanigans :< There you go people, you can beat MMA/terran as zerg (if you're Scarlett) | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:28 Serinox wrote: For everybody who doesn't know: Ryu Won, who is now a coach at Woongjin, was a coach of SlayerS before and worked closely with MMA and together they planned a lot, including the very smart series MMA played against Mvp at Blizzcon 2011. When Ryu Won left SlayerS for WJS, the downfall of MMA began and many were wondering how much it had to do with Ryu Won leaving. I am not sure if he is still WJS' coach. Also, he did bring MMA to WJS house to practice with Soulkey, before he went on to win the final. So Coach Ryu is probably more responsible for WJS' success than anything else :D | ||
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sharkie
Austria18422 Posts
I find redeye better... | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8545 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:29 maartendq wrote: Apollo looks really, really tired! yeah, definitely has been partying like a mofo. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:29 Keeemy wrote: There you go people, you can beat MMA/terran as zerg (if you're Scarlett) And that is assuming he won't do his shenanigans he showed yesterday (and today). | ||
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:29 lolfail9001 wrote: I am not sure if he is still WJS' coach. Also, he did bring MMA to WJS house to practice with Soulkey, before he went on to win the final. So Coach Ryu is probably more responsible for WJS' success than anything else :D Well atleast there has been no news of him having left the team afaik | ||
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Noc-
Finland850 Posts
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unigolyn
Estonia1272 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:26 ETisME wrote: I think most people are completely ignoring how different the two engages. Terran poke with bio to kill off some lings and banelings, just like how zerg sent off some lings to bait widow mine shots. BUT for the actual engagement, Terran pulls away from the banelings and Zerg moves the banelings into the bio. Widow mines hits become unavoidable because you are engaging with your whole army. i.e. you can't micro against a widow mine that has targetted a unit. Terran on the other hand can improvise with micro, lifting up marines, splitting the bio and stutterstepping etc. Did I miss some sort of unwritten rule that requires you to have the "actual engagement" on top of unspent widow mines? | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:29 sharkie wrote: why do people like incontrol so much? I find redeye better... I like them both. And Redeye is otherwise occupied, so I'm glad EU picked up Incontrol. | ||
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ETisME
12452 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:27 Jer99 wrote: Don't forget that widow mines also splash onto our bio, so 1 zergling baiting a widow mine shot can do immense damage to multiple bio units except when we are talking about micro from each side, this talk is not important because a terran can't micro out from a bait mine shot either. complaining about splash damage is like saying banelings kill off both itself and quite a lot will die before even reaching the bio or not trading cost efficiently due to the spread etc | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6657 Posts
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Nachtwind
Germany1130 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:29 sharkie wrote: why do people like incontrol so much? I find redeye better... I like TLO. | ||
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
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Doublemint
Austria8545 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:31 Darkhoarse wrote: I like them both. And Redeye is otherwise occupied, so I'm glad EU picked up Incontrol. This. Incontrol <3 Redeye<3 | ||
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unigolyn
Estonia1272 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:29 sharkie wrote: why do people like incontrol so much? I find redeye better... It's not a competition. It's possible to like both. Inc has far better game knowledge. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 07 2013 00:30 Serinox wrote: Well atleast there has been no news of him having left the team afaik If we assume his contract lasted a year, he could have left like half a year before. | ||
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