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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 06 2013 15:29 GMT
#1061
hahaha incontrol makes me laugh 24 hours after hes initiated this look
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
October 06 2013 15:29 GMT
#1062
On October 07 2013 00:25 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:23 Jer99 wrote:
So when terran doesn't split their marines against banelings, it's not banelings OP but the terrans fault for not splitting?

When zerg doesn't split against widow mines, its widow mines OP and not the zergs fault for not splitting?

That's what i am seeing. The winrates right now are in favor of zerg, so why would terran get a nerf?

Zerg and terran are entirely different in terms of unit control. For one thing, zerg units are mostly melee or very short range, meaning it's a hell of a lot harder to effectively work with the units when splitting, and they are also faster, meaning you have less control time, and banelings have a shorter range than WM, again adding to difficulty.
Plus WM are burrowed so you can't see them. Plus no medivacs to quickly pick up units etc etc.
It's just a different scenario entirely.

Another thing is it's BORING to see spam of MMWM. Who cares about balance when it's just boring as hell.


yup no variety is boring .. if only marine tank is as viable as mmmm ... we wont see mmmm every single damn game ..

and also marines are easier to split and banelings cant chase marines without creep .. splitting zerglings and banelings is harder since they clump too much, they are melee and the unit size is so small that one widow mine hit will kill 20-30 lings ..
this is a quote
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
October 06 2013 15:29 GMT
#1063
I hope Incontrol doesnt dress like that because he likes to, but rather someone holding a gun to his head an forcing him to do so <.< he looks.. wierd
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
October 06 2013 15:29 GMT
#1064
On October 07 2013 00:28 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:27 Keeemy wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:26 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:25 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:24 argonautdice wrote:
I bet practicing against Scarlett's mutabanelings does MMA's TvZ wonder.

I'm willing to bet Scarlett and MMA rarely practice together. She's been on break, they're cross server, time zone differences, etc.

We were playing before his matches today and yesterday ~_~

Did you win?

In macro games I won but died a few times to his new early shenanigans :<


You should do a video tutorial on macro ZvT =D
Cereal
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-06 15:30:13
October 06 2013 15:29 GMT
#1065
On October 07 2013 00:28 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:27 Keeemy wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:26 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:25 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:24 argonautdice wrote:
I bet practicing against Scarlett's mutabanelings does MMA's TvZ wonder.

I'm willing to bet Scarlett and MMA rarely practice together. She's been on break, they're cross server, time zone differences, etc.

We were playing before his matches today and yesterday ~_~

Did you win?

In macro games I won but died a few times to his new early shenanigans :<

There you go people, you can beat MMA/terran as zerg (if you're Scarlett)
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 06 2013 15:29 GMT
#1066
On October 07 2013 00:28 Serinox wrote:
For everybody who doesn't know: Ryu Won, who is now a coach at Woongjin, was a coach of SlayerS before and worked closely with MMA and together they planned a lot, including the very smart series MMA played against Mvp at Blizzcon 2011. When Ryu Won left SlayerS for WJS, the downfall of MMA began and many were wondering how much it had to do with Ryu Won leaving.

I am not sure if he is still WJS' coach. Also, he did bring MMA to WJS house to practice with Soulkey, before he went on to win the final. So Coach Ryu is probably more responsible for WJS' success than anything else :D
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18712 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-06 15:30:07
October 06 2013 15:29 GMT
#1067
why do people like incontrol so much?

I find redeye better...
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
October 06 2013 15:30 GMT
#1068
On October 07 2013 00:29 maartendq wrote:
Apollo looks really, really tired!


yeah, definitely has been partying like a mofo.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 06 2013 15:30 GMT
#1069
On October 07 2013 00:29 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:28 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:27 Keeemy wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:26 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:25 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:24 argonautdice wrote:
I bet practicing against Scarlett's mutabanelings does MMA's TvZ wonder.

I'm willing to bet Scarlett and MMA rarely practice together. She's been on break, they're cross server, time zone differences, etc.

We were playing before his matches today and yesterday ~_~

Did you win?

In macro games I won but died a few times to his new early shenanigans :<

There you go people, you can beat MMA/terran as zerg (if you're Scarlett)

And that is assuming he won't do his shenanigans he showed yesterday (and today).
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
October 06 2013 15:30 GMT
#1070
On October 07 2013 00:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:28 Serinox wrote:
For everybody who doesn't know: Ryu Won, who is now a coach at Woongjin, was a coach of SlayerS before and worked closely with MMA and together they planned a lot, including the very smart series MMA played against Mvp at Blizzcon 2011. When Ryu Won left SlayerS for WJS, the downfall of MMA began and many were wondering how much it had to do with Ryu Won leaving.

I am not sure if he is still WJS' coach. Also, he did bring MMA to WJS house to practice with Soulkey, before he went on to win the final. So Coach Ryu is probably more responsible for WJS' success than anything else :D

Well atleast there has been no news of him having left the team afaik
Noc-
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland850 Posts
October 06 2013 15:31 GMT
#1071
One terran slaughtering everyone, one terran made it to the playoffs. Terran so imba nerf widow mines nerf everything!!!111
SEKO SEKO MMA<3 SEKO SEKO
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
October 06 2013 15:31 GMT
#1072
On October 07 2013 00:26 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:23 Jer99 wrote:
So when terran doesn't split their marines against banelings, it's not banelings OP but the terrans fault for not splitting?

When zerg doesn't split against widow mines, its widow mines OP and not the zergs fault for not splitting?

That's what i am seeing. The winrates right now are in favor of zerg, so why would terran get a nerf?

I think most people are completely ignoring how different the two engages.

Terran poke with bio to kill off some lings and banelings, just like how zerg sent off some lings to bait widow mine shots.

BUT for the actual engagement, Terran pulls away from the banelings and Zerg moves the banelings into the bio.
Widow mines hits become unavoidable because you are engaging with your whole army. i.e. you can't micro against a widow mine that has targetted a unit.
Terran on the other hand can improvise with micro, lifting up marines, splitting the bio and stutterstepping etc.


Did I miss some sort of unwritten rule that requires you to have the "actual engagement" on top of unspent widow mines?
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 06 2013 15:31 GMT
#1073
On October 07 2013 00:29 sharkie wrote:
why do people like incontrol so much?

I find redeye better...

I like them both. And Redeye is otherwise occupied, so I'm glad EU picked up Incontrol.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12806 Posts
October 06 2013 15:31 GMT
#1074
On October 07 2013 00:27 Jer99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:26 ETisME wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:23 Jer99 wrote:
So when terran doesn't split their marines against banelings, it's not banelings OP but the terrans fault for not splitting?

When zerg doesn't split against widow mines, its widow mines OP and not the zergs fault for not splitting?

That's what i am seeing. The winrates right now are in favor of zerg, so why would terran get a nerf?

I think most people are completely ignoring how different the two engages.

Terran poke with bio to kill off some lings and banelings, just like how zerg sent off some lings to bait widow mine shots.

BUT for the actual engagement, Terran pulls away from the banelings and Zerg moves the banelings into the bio.
Widow mines hits become unavoidable because you are engaging with your whole army. i.e. you can't micro against a widow mine that has targetted a unit.
Terran on the other hand can improvise with micro, lifting up marines, splitting the bio and stutterstepping etc.


Don't forget that widow mines also splash onto our bio, so 1 zergling baiting a widow mine shot can do immense damage to multiple bio units

except when we are talking about micro from each side, this talk is not important because a terran can't micro out from a bait mine shot either.
complaining about splash damage is like saying banelings kill off both itself and quite a lot will die before even reaching the bio or not trading cost efficiently due to the spread etc
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
October 06 2013 15:31 GMT
#1075
Lol you pronounce it WHAT? lmao
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
October 06 2013 15:31 GMT
#1076
On October 07 2013 00:29 sharkie wrote:
why do people like incontrol so much?

I find redeye better...


I like TLO.
invisible tetris level master
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 06 2013 15:31 GMT
#1077
hahahahahahaha WCS EU most entertaining WCS
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
October 06 2013 15:31 GMT
#1078
On October 07 2013 00:31 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:29 sharkie wrote:
why do people like incontrol so much?

I find redeye better...

I like them both. And Redeye is otherwise occupied, so I'm glad EU picked up Incontrol.


This. Incontrol <3 Redeye<3
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
October 06 2013 15:31 GMT
#1079
On October 07 2013 00:29 sharkie wrote:
why do people like incontrol so much?

I find redeye better...


It's not a competition. It's possible to like both.

Inc has far better game knowledge.
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 06 2013 15:31 GMT
#1080
On October 07 2013 00:30 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 07 2013 00:28 Serinox wrote:
For everybody who doesn't know: Ryu Won, who is now a coach at Woongjin, was a coach of SlayerS before and worked closely with MMA and together they planned a lot, including the very smart series MMA played against Mvp at Blizzcon 2011. When Ryu Won left SlayerS for WJS, the downfall of MMA began and many were wondering how much it had to do with Ryu Won leaving.

I am not sure if he is still WJS' coach. Also, he did bring MMA to WJS house to practice with Soulkey, before he went on to win the final. So Coach Ryu is probably more responsible for WJS' success than anything else :D

Well atleast there has been no news of him having left the team afaik

If we assume his contract lasted a year, he could have left like half a year before.
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