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myminerals
Profile Joined August 2013
560 Posts
September 27 2013 13:19 GMT
#1321
On September 27 2013 22:15 boxerfred wrote:
okay, I'll stop rooting for individual players. there's no consistency at all (that means, that a pro is at least a year top notch, god dammit!), except for symbol. no wait..

i'll just quit watching sc2. not having fun anymore, and since fun and entertainment is the only real reason for me to watch the game instead of playing it, that should be enough as a justification.

There is no a single consistent player in SC2 these days.
There are many good players, but noone truly dominates.
I'd say Taeja, but he got really good only recently and who knows for how long.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 27 2013 13:19 GMT
#1322
On September 27 2013 22:17 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 22:15 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:13 robson1 wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:12 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:10 robson1 wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:09 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:08 NarutO wrote:
INnoVation made a TANK? CRITICAL MALFUNCTION, SHUTTING DOWN SYSTEMS

This missclick happens so often to me.


in a few weeks tanks are going to be alright though.

Nope. And it's absolutely mind-boggling they're even considering weakening 4M with no compensation when the best TvZ in the world struggles even against non-Korean Zergs and gets smashed by Korean Zergs.


He's 23-7 in his last 30 TvZs

Watch the last few standard macro games against Snute at SC2L, Petraeus/Pig/Curious at Asia Final Qualifiers, DRG/soO in Code S and you'll see by yourself what I mean.


The DRG series isn't a good example, DRG played the closest I've seen to perfect Zerg in those two games he won.

Quite on the contrary, it's a good example, because Bogus also plays the closest to perfect we've seen in TvZ.
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
September 27 2013 13:19 GMT
#1323
I'm starting to think that Blizz should leave widow mines just as they are now. But still some buffs to mech would be cool
Hello
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 13:20:15
September 27 2013 13:19 GMT
#1324
Lately Widow mines seems to dont hit shit. Maybe Blizzard did a hidden nerf because all Terrans are losing left and right to Zergs. Innovation and Flash losing to foreigner Zergs is crazy.
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
krooked
Profile Joined May 2011
376 Posts
September 27 2013 13:20 GMT
#1325
On September 27 2013 22:18 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 22:17 KelsierSC wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:15 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:13 robson1 wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:12 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:10 robson1 wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:09 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:08 NarutO wrote:
INnoVation made a TANK? CRITICAL MALFUNCTION, SHUTTING DOWN SYSTEMS

This missclick happens so often to me.


in a few weeks tanks are going to be alright though.

Nope. And it's absolutely mind-boggling they're even considering weakening 4M with no compensation when the best TvZ in the world struggles even against non-Korean Zergs and gets smashed by Korean Zergs.


He's 23-7 in his last 30 TvZs

Watch the last few standard macro games against Snute at SC2L, Petraeus/Pig/Curious at Asia Final Qualifiers, DRG/soO in Code S and you'll see by yourself what I mean.


Careful you are getting dangerously close to saying Zerg is OP in ZvT


Statistics currently nearing 60% in ZvT this month (In Korea) dangerously close to what Zerg claimed as overpowered, yes


Hey shut your mouth! Also, I read in an article that Protoss has always been struggling with T in HotS.

But yeah no I've always felt terran is the weakest race and the incoming nerfs to the mine aint gon' help.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 27 2013 13:20 GMT
#1326
On September 27 2013 22:19 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 22:17 liberate71 wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:15 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:13 robson1 wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:12 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:10 robson1 wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:09 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:08 NarutO wrote:
INnoVation made a TANK? CRITICAL MALFUNCTION, SHUTTING DOWN SYSTEMS

This missclick happens so often to me.


in a few weeks tanks are going to be alright though.

Nope. And it's absolutely mind-boggling they're even considering weakening 4M with no compensation when the best TvZ in the world struggles even against non-Korean Zergs and gets smashed by Korean Zergs.


He's 23-7 in his last 30 TvZs

Watch the last few standard macro games against Snute at SC2L, Petraeus/Pig/Curious at Asia Final Qualifiers, DRG/soO in Code S and you'll see by yourself what I mean.


The DRG series isn't a good example, DRG played the closest I've seen to perfect Zerg in those two games he won.

Quite on the contrary, it's a good example, because Bogus also plays the closest to perfect we've seen in TvZ.

So perfect that jjakji looked better vs z
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
September 27 2013 13:20 GMT
#1327
that's so bogus
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
September 27 2013 13:21 GMT
#1328
On September 27 2013 22:17 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 22:16 Prugelhugel wrote:
The whole state of ZvT gives me headache.
Marine splitting against banes vs. Ling splitting against mines while mutas and drops fly around the map.
It's worse than Muta vs. Muta before the spore buff.
Hurry up with your Terran changes, Blizzard!

I can't see the changes helping much, Terrans will just lose more from the changes they're planning on making at the moment.

Oh well, if terrans at least try to use different unit combinations it will be good enough for me as a spectator, bored of the same old every game in tvz. Think it'll be brutally hard though, but then again we have dominated for most of hots!

TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 27 2013 13:21 GMT
#1329
On September 27 2013 22:19 p14c wrote:
Lately Widow mines seems to dont hit shit. Maybe Blizzard did a hidden nerf because all Terrans are losing left and right to the Zergs. Innovation and Flash losing to foreigners Zergs is crazy.

Nope, Zergs are just improving their micro and engagements and overall refining their anti-4M play, demonstrating their previous complaints and requests for Mine nerfs were once again premature and unnecessary.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
September 27 2013 13:21 GMT
#1330
On September 27 2013 22:19 Keeemy wrote:
I'm starting to think that Blizz should leave widow mines just as they are now. But still some buffs to mech would be cool

Agreed, or either tone down the nerf a bit.

As much as I dislike mine-based play the current nerf would totally tank terran winrates.
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
September 27 2013 13:22 GMT
#1331
The only question that is worth asking...

Who whines more, Zerg or Terran?

Seems like Terran's are getting better and better at it!
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
September 27 2013 13:22 GMT
#1332
On September 27 2013 22:20 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 22:19 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:17 liberate71 wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:15 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:13 robson1 wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:12 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:10 robson1 wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:09 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:08 NarutO wrote:
INnoVation made a TANK? CRITICAL MALFUNCTION, SHUTTING DOWN SYSTEMS

This missclick happens so often to me.


in a few weeks tanks are going to be alright though.

Nope. And it's absolutely mind-boggling they're even considering weakening 4M with no compensation when the best TvZ in the world struggles even against non-Korean Zergs and gets smashed by Korean Zergs.


He's 23-7 in his last 30 TvZs

Watch the last few standard macro games against Snute at SC2L, Petraeus/Pig/Curious at Asia Final Qualifiers, DRG/soO in Code S and you'll see by yourself what I mean.


The DRG series isn't a good example, DRG played the closest I've seen to perfect Zerg in those two games he won.

Quite on the contrary, it's a good example, because Bogus also plays the closest to perfect we've seen in TvZ.

So perfect that jjakji looked better vs z


Surely you're not serious?

Both DRG and Innovation played amazing that series (Except game 3, Innovation fell apart there)
Why can't I quit you, siege tank? FanTaSy, Mvp.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
September 27 2013 13:22 GMT
#1333
this whole week there have been so many weird games and results.

but what i wanna know more than anything is wtf Super was trying to do with that immortal build against Innovation.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 13:23:08
September 27 2013 13:22 GMT
#1334
On September 27 2013 22:21 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 22:19 p14c wrote:
Lately Widow mines seems to dont hit shit. Maybe Blizzard did a hidden nerf because all Terrans are losing left and right to the Zergs. Innovation and Flash losing to foreigners Zergs is crazy.

Nope, Zergs are just improving their micro and engagements and overall refining their anti-4M play, demonstrating their previous complaints and requests for Mine nerfs were once again premature and unnecessary.

I don't see any micro. I just see banelings and zerglings a-moved and widow mines hitting Overseers..
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
Megapenthes
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom202 Posts
September 27 2013 13:23 GMT
#1335
wow. came back to look at the results.
what happened?
Polt, Jangbi, Hyun
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 13:23:43
September 27 2013 13:23 GMT
#1336
On September 27 2013 22:22 Douillos wrote:
The only question that is worth asking...

Who whines more, Zerg or Terran?

Seems like Terran's are getting better and better at it!

Someone figure out something OP vs protoss so they can get in on the action.
On September 27 2013 22:23 Megapenthes wrote:
wow. came back to look at the results.
what happened?

soo roach bane busted innovation into straight up beating him in a macro game.
Glorious SEA doto
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 27 2013 13:23 GMT
#1337
On September 27 2013 22:19 myminerals wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 22:15 boxerfred wrote:
okay, I'll stop rooting for individual players. there's no consistency at all (that means, that a pro is at least a year top notch, god dammit!), except for symbol. no wait..

i'll just quit watching sc2. not having fun anymore, and since fun and entertainment is the only real reason for me to watch the game instead of playing it, that should be enough as a justification.

There is no a single consistent player in SC2 these days.
There are many good players, but noone truly dominates.
I'd say Taeja, but he got really good only recently and who knows for how long.


Yep, that's the point! I mean, you can either love a guy for his personality, or for his playstyle, or for his pure skill. Maybe I forgot another criteria, so remind me of it if it comes to your mind.

so, where in korea do you find a player with personality apart from MC and two or three more? And with personality, I do not mean failing a champagne pull at dreamhack, or saying "cheer for me" in bad english. I am sure those korean players do have a personality of course, but since they're not showing it, I can't choose any of them.

So, let's now go for playstyle - I loved Life's ling micro (beginning of HotS, MLG Life vs Flash...aaaawww, I loved that series), and I enjoy his aggressive style. That's why I am a Life fan. But I do not get to see much of him lately.. or let's say, nothing motivating. For Protoss, I went for LiquidHerO, because HerOvZ is just fun. Storm drops all the way, I remember matches on Entombed Valley vs, I think, Curious? Not sure. But hey, he's at least kind-of consistent in reaching WCS AM ro8's - no, wait.

So my last pick of favs was Innovation, I completely jumped on the hype train and was stunned by his TvZ performance.
Okay, it seems to be over now. So what to do, repick? Lolno.
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 13:24:31
September 27 2013 13:24 GMT
#1338
On September 27 2013 22:23 Megapenthes wrote:
wow. came back to look at the results.
what happened?

Zerg build banelings and mutas and still won despite his forth and fifth bases got sniped a few times...It's mind blowing.
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
TheOne26
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia142 Posts
September 27 2013 13:24 GMT
#1339
the new patch is gonna screw terran really hard. unless tanks are buffed even more terrans will still use 4m because it is still so much better. and if they are buffed it will mess with mech vs bio in tvt so they need to think this one through. will be interesting to see how players like supernova/bomber go though because they still incorporate tanks occasionally in tvz.

regarding tasteless....lol. he became average a year ago. he stumbles and fumbles around and doesn't know wtf is going on in game. he rides on artosis' knowledge and repeats everything he says and agrees to everything blindly...because he DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING. but he will still stay casting because he and artosis come as a team, you cannot remove him without removing artosis.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 27 2013 13:24 GMT
#1340
On September 27 2013 22:22 p14c wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 22:21 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:19 p14c wrote:
Lately Widow mines seems to dont hit shit. Maybe Blizzard did a hidden nerf because all Terrans are losing left and right to the Zergs. Innovation and Flash losing to foreigners Zergs is crazy.

Nope, Zergs are just improving their micro and engagements and overall refining their anti-4M play, demonstrating their previous complaints and requests for Mine nerfs were once again premature and unnecessary.

I don't see any micro. I just see banelings and zerglings a-moved and widow mines hitting Overseers..


Open your eyes then
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
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