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SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
September 28 2013 00:13 GMT
#1481
On September 28 2013 02:37 MajOr wrote:
soO very gosu i hope ppl start realizing that.




I didn't see game 2 of soO vs Innovation, did he do another all-in? He played poorly vs Jakjji in that first game, and I thought he could have played better in the second game too. He did decent vs Super though.
Julyzerg ftw
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 28 2013 00:15 GMT
#1482
On September 28 2013 09:13 SoFrOsTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:37 MajOr wrote:
soO very gosu i hope ppl start realizing that.




I didn't see game 2 of soO vs Innovation, did he do another all-in? He played poorly vs Jakjji in that first game, and I thought he could have played better in the second game too. He did decent vs Super though.

Nah, innovation tilted from what i understood.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 28 2013 00:16 GMT
#1483
On September 28 2013 09:13 SoFrOsTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:37 MajOr wrote:
soO very gosu i hope ppl start realizing that.




I didn't see game 2 of soO vs Innovation, did he do another all-in? He played poorly vs Jakjji in that first game, and I thought he could have played better in the second game too. He did decent vs Super though.

game 1 roach bane all in
game 2 macro game
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ladysman09
Profile Joined June 2013
237 Posts
September 28 2013 00:51 GMT
#1484
Innovation reminds me of Life back in day. Losing in the mirror to inferior players
omisa
Profile Joined January 2011
United States494 Posts
September 28 2013 01:17 GMT
#1485
Oh wow Jjakji taking first place and besting Innovation. Didnt expect to see that. I think he has a decent chance versus whoever comes 2nd in group D.
\m/
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
September 28 2013 10:36 GMT
#1486
On September 28 2013 05:23 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 05:20 esdf wrote:
as expected, moving to a foreign team, inno can't cope anymore ((


Yeah, because the 3 weeks practice in Axioms house sure made him bad. Getting second at Dreamhack sure is a sign of getting worse

his decline started after wcs s1 finals, completed with moving to acer. and getting 2nd at a foreign tournament is nothing to be proud of for someone who was a champion until yesterday.
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
beachbeachy
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States509 Posts
September 28 2013 12:44 GMT
#1487
On September 27 2013 22:56 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 22:49 NicksonReyes wrote:
BW Terran was so imba 4 of the 5 bonjwas are terran.


As a terran in both BW and SC2 i gotta say. Terran was definitely imba in BW. It was just nearly impossible to play up to the infinite potential that Terran had. In SC2 I think it's safe to say, that overall the korean terran dominated for most of the time, except 2012 second half, which was the time of broodfestor.


Yeah, back when you a pro gamer and could draw conclusions like that, right?
Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of men. - Goethe
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
September 28 2013 16:38 GMT
#1488
On September 28 2013 09:13 SoFrOsTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:37 MajOr wrote:
soO very gosu i hope ppl start realizing that.




I didn't see game 2 of soO vs Innovation, did he do another all-in? He played poorly vs Jakjji in that first game, and I thought he could have played better in the second game too. He did decent vs Super though.


SoO's always been mediocre man and Bogus has been on a downwards spiral for a few months, hue!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18521 Posts
September 28 2013 16:44 GMT
#1489
On September 28 2013 21:44 beachbeachy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 22:56 robson1 wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:49 NicksonReyes wrote:
BW Terran was so imba 4 of the 5 bonjwas are terran.


As a terran in both BW and SC2 i gotta say. Terran was definitely imba in BW. It was just nearly impossible to play up to the infinite potential that Terran had. In SC2 I think it's safe to say, that overall the korean terran dominated for most of the time, except 2012 second half, which was the time of broodfestor.


Yeah, back when you a pro gamer and could draw conclusions like that, right?


it wasn't imba, but definitely the strongest race by far...
tanks were just really strong
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 19:37:53
September 28 2013 19:36 GMT
#1490
Will people finally stop calling Innovation the "best player in the world" and "clear favorite to take the whole thing" now? its been going on far too long since his fall from prime, god form.
I have nothing against the dude im just tried of people not keeping up with his performance level.
you no take candle
beachbeachy
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States509 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 20:57:43
September 28 2013 20:57 GMT
#1491
On September 29 2013 01:44 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 21:44 beachbeachy wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:56 robson1 wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:49 NicksonReyes wrote:
BW Terran was so imba 4 of the 5 bonjwas are terran.


As a terran in both BW and SC2 i gotta say. Terran was definitely imba in BW. It was just nearly impossible to play up to the infinite potential that Terran had. In SC2 I think it's safe to say, that overall the korean terran dominated for most of the time, except 2012 second half, which was the time of broodfestor.


Yeah, back when you a pro gamer and could draw conclusions like that, right?


it wasn't imba, but definitely the strongest race by far...
tanks were just really strong


Sharkie - Joined TL.net Friday, 27th of April 2012

Don't tell me you were an avid spectator of BW in it's prime (2008-2011). Terran was not the strongest race by far. In fact, there was no strongest race. Flash happened to be the name on the scene during that time and cemented a lot of bias towards the terran race but if you take the time and do some research, there was no dominant race.
Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of men. - Goethe
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
September 28 2013 21:00 GMT
#1492
On September 28 2013 19:36 esdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 05:23 NovaMB wrote:
On September 28 2013 05:20 esdf wrote:
as expected, moving to a foreign team, inno can't cope anymore ((


Yeah, because the 3 weeks practice in Axioms house sure made him bad. Getting second at Dreamhack sure is a sign of getting worse

his decline started after wcs s1 finals, completed with moving to acer. and getting 2nd at a foreign tournament is nothing to be proud of for someone who was a champion until yesterday.


Innovation set the bar too high. He was too dominant during the spring and the summer, and now it'll be very hard to live up those expectations. Now, even though Innovation has been very dominant and solid, people still point and shout "Slump!"
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
September 28 2013 21:28 GMT
#1493
On September 29 2013 05:57 beachbeachy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 01:44 sharkie wrote:
On September 28 2013 21:44 beachbeachy wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:56 robson1 wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:49 NicksonReyes wrote:
BW Terran was so imba 4 of the 5 bonjwas are terran.


As a terran in both BW and SC2 i gotta say. Terran was definitely imba in BW. It was just nearly impossible to play up to the infinite potential that Terran had. In SC2 I think it's safe to say, that overall the korean terran dominated for most of the time, except 2012 second half, which was the time of broodfestor.


Yeah, back when you a pro gamer and could draw conclusions like that, right?


it wasn't imba, but definitely the strongest race by far...
tanks were just really strong


Sharkie - Joined TL.net Friday, 27th of April 2012

Don't tell me you were an avid spectator of BW in it's prime (2008-2011). Terran was not the strongest race by far. In fact, there was no strongest race. Flash happened to be the name on the scene during that time and cemented a lot of bias towards the terran race but if you take the time and do some research, there was no dominant race.


Well if you look at the history as a whole, Terrans had more Bonjwas and OSL champion winners/OSL runner ups. Zerg is not far behind. Protoss overall struggled for most of the time.
you no take candle
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
September 28 2013 22:13 GMT
#1494
On September 29 2013 04:36 sc2holar wrote:
Will people finally stop calling Innovation the "best player in the world" and "clear favorite to take the whole thing" now? its been going on far too long since his fall from prime, god form.
I have nothing against the dude im just tried of people not keeping up with his performance level.


Something has to be said for his consistency. This is the first time since nearly a year ago when innovation has not made the ro8 or better. Soulkey is even more impressive in this regard. No two other players have had this level of consistency. Only Symbol comes close
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
September 29 2013 00:06 GMT
#1495
On September 29 2013 06:28 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 05:57 beachbeachy wrote:
On September 29 2013 01:44 sharkie wrote:
On September 28 2013 21:44 beachbeachy wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:56 robson1 wrote:
On September 27 2013 22:49 NicksonReyes wrote:
BW Terran was so imba 4 of the 5 bonjwas are terran.


As a terran in both BW and SC2 i gotta say. Terran was definitely imba in BW. It was just nearly impossible to play up to the infinite potential that Terran had. In SC2 I think it's safe to say, that overall the korean terran dominated for most of the time, except 2012 second half, which was the time of broodfestor.


Yeah, back when you a pro gamer and could draw conclusions like that, right?


it wasn't imba, but definitely the strongest race by far...
tanks were just really strong


Sharkie - Joined TL.net Friday, 27th of April 2012

Don't tell me you were an avid spectator of BW in it's prime (2008-2011). Terran was not the strongest race by far. In fact, there was no strongest race. Flash happened to be the name on the scene during that time and cemented a lot of bias towards the terran race but if you take the time and do some research, there was no dominant race.


Well if you look at the history as a whole, Terrans had more Bonjwas and OSL champion winners/OSL runner ups. Zerg is not far behind. Protoss overall struggled for most of the time.

You guys really love to count championships, 12 of which are won by 2 outliers and not a single one is a TvT finals. Including the 2 other terran bonjwas will make it 20 won by 4 individuals with 2 TvT finals, both are against a fellow bonjwa. Excluding those 2 TvTs, the 4 have 8 silvers and none of them are TvTs too. It's clearly the race and not them being baller as fuck.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
September 29 2013 06:59 GMT
#1496
Dear GomTV:

Please do 2 things for me:

1. "Even if you are not friendly with the RPG game..." I cringe every time I hear this! Let's fix it =)

2. This season's music is..... Well, let's just say that I think we can pick a better theme song!

Thanks <3
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
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