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Raambo11
Profile Joined April 2011
United States828 Posts
August 24 2013 13:04 GMT
#2161
Everyone saying go Raven. Do you realize how much gas you need to get enough ravens out to matter? Also Ravens are terribly slow and easily feedbacked.
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
August 24 2013 13:04 GMT
#2162
Microing ravens, ghosts emp, stimming and kiting at the same time or in seconds.. I dont think this is possible lol
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
August 24 2013 13:04 GMT
#2163
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:01 teddyoojo wrote:
can u actually beat collossus ht tempest in theory?

BC Raven Ghost may work :D



Tempest does like 80 dmg vs air and they shoot from the other side of the map so.. no
VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
August 24 2013 13:04 GMT
#2164
On August 24 2013 22:03 pmp10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:01 VmY wrote:
Why are Rotterdam/Kaelaris so surprised? Going Tempest lategame isn't something unheard of and I actually haven't seen a terran beat it yet.

Because it's unusual at pro level.
And Innovation did beat it once.



That was without the massive chargelot/colossi army under it though. And woudn't say unheard of, I've seen First do it before in wcs Korea.
Why can't I quit you, siege tank? FanTaSy, Mvp.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
August 24 2013 13:04 GMT
#2165
On August 24 2013 22:01 Salivanth wrote:
I'm not sure how this army can possibly be destroyed. Tempests in that amount beat Vikings, as sOs showed us vs. InnoVation in the last season finals. Marines beat Tempests as InnoVation showed us in that same game...but Colossi own Marines and Chargelots protect the Colossi!

Wow.


Nydus worms.
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 13:05:28
August 24 2013 13:04 GMT
#2166
On August 24 2013 22:02 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:01 teddyoojo wrote:
can u actually beat collossus ht tempest in theory?

BC Raven Ghost may work :D

You have no idea what Tempest does to BCs.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 24 2013 13:04 GMT
#2167
On August 24 2013 22:02 CikaZombi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:01 Salivanth wrote:
I'm not sure how this army can possibly be destroyed. Tempests in that amount beat Vikings, as sOs showed us vs. InnoVation in the last season finals. Marines beat Tempests as InnoVation showed us in that same game...but Colossi own Marines and Chargelots protect the Colossi!

Wow.

Raven.


Feedback, cannons, and not retarded engagements.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
August 24 2013 13:04 GMT
#2168
i really want ma boy aLive to win this match (even though i love First too), but that game was fucking awesome.

when was the last time we had a tournament with this kind of density of amazing games? GSL 2012 Season 2?
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
August 24 2013 13:04 GMT
#2169
On August 24 2013 22:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:01 teddyoojo wrote:
can u actually beat collossus ht tempest in theory?

BC Raven Ghost may work :D


Terrans don't know how to use spellcasters.

HAHAHA! What spellcasters? All spellcasters are hard countered by HT. They get 1-shoted, that's why you don't see ravens in TvP.
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
August 24 2013 13:04 GMT
#2170
On August 24 2013 22:03 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:02 CikaZombi wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:01 Salivanth wrote:
I'm not sure how this army can possibly be destroyed. Tempests in that amount beat Vikings, as sOs showed us vs. InnoVation in the last season finals. Marines beat Tempests as InnoVation showed us in that same game...but Colossi own Marines and Chargelots protect the Colossi!

Wow.

Raven.


Ravens suck. Slow, expensive, can be feedbacked (as well as its pdd or did it get changed again?) . So now, thats not the solution :x


With proper control, you re not supposed to get your raven's feedbacked...
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 24 2013 13:05 GMT
#2171
On August 24 2013 22:03 -_- wrote:
Terran needs a PvT buff. Maybe make Ghosts get their original EMP radius back, or increase snipe range so it straight up outranges storm, or both. Protoss players just turtle and harass, then wait for the right big fight.


Depends on whether or not you're talking about super early WoL radius

EMP the whole screen
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
August 24 2013 13:05 GMT
#2172
On August 24 2013 22:04 Raambo11 wrote:
Everyone saying go Raven. Do you realize how much gas you need to get enough ravens out to matter? Also Ravens are terribly slow and easily feedbacked.


The real kicker is that PDDs can be feedbacked also.
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
August 24 2013 13:05 GMT
#2173
On August 24 2013 22:04 p14c wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:01 teddyoojo wrote:
can u actually beat collossus ht tempest in theory?

BC Raven Ghost may work :D


Terrans don't know how to use spellcasters.

HAHAHA! What spellcasters? All spellcasters are hard countered by HT. They get 1-shoted, that's why you don't see ravens in TvP.


Hard countered? Lol?
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
August 24 2013 13:05 GMT
#2174
On August 24 2013 22:02 YyapSsap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:01 Zheryn wrote:
lol @ not making ravens vs tempests


Feedbacks... starports with tech labs... even if you do kill the tempests.. here comes 20+ warpins >


You're not supposed to kill the tempest, just make them unable to do any damage ^^
hundred thousand krouner
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 24 2013 13:05 GMT
#2175
come on aLive! He should've had that. He had 20 vikings to a mostly colossi army but he sat back and let First mass tempests ><
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 24 2013 13:05 GMT
#2176
On August 24 2013 22:03 Sea_aeS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:01 teddyoojo wrote:
can u actually beat collossus ht tempest in theory?

BC Raven Ghost may work :D


Well Ravens vs HT .... Srsly i dont think u can beat it when it comes. (But its the terran fault if he let it happen so anw deserved loss)

I shall repeat it: it all comes down to ability to get rid of hts in time. After that raven bc and normal attack of ghosts reign supreme :D
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9224 Posts
August 24 2013 13:05 GMT
#2177
On August 24 2013 22:04 Raambo11 wrote:
Everyone saying go Raven. Do you realize how much gas you need to get enough ravens out to matter? Also Ravens are terribly slow and easily feedbacked.
And how much gas does toss need to make that army?
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
August 24 2013 13:05 GMT
#2178
On August 24 2013 22:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:02 DidYuhim wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:01 teddyoojo wrote:
can u actually beat collossus ht tempest in theory?

BC Raven Ghost may work :D

Just no.

After all it shall come down to your ability to get rid of Hts before they kill everything you have.

dude bcs would totally help. you could cast yamato out of the range of the hightemplar feedback, and pdd stops the tempest shots, just saying no without giving any reasons doesn't help the conversation
Sc2 always got your back
M.R. McThundercrotch
Profile Joined June 2012
United States265 Posts
August 24 2013 13:05 GMT
#2179
"First 12 minutes"? Alive doesn't put pressure for the first 45 minutes and then looks lost when he runs into the Golden Armada.

This is incredibly frustrating to watch after Alive just picked First apart with aggression and drops in the first game.
On June 30 2012 01:42 iNcontroL wrote: Fuck a lot of you. Fuck you forever.
metzninja
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand626 Posts
August 24 2013 13:05 GMT
#2180
On August 24 2013 22:02 YyapSsap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:01 Zheryn wrote:
lol @ not making ravens vs tempests


Feedbacks... starports with tech labs... even if you do kill the tempests.. here comes 20+ warpins >


Starports with tech labs is the problem, but if your opponent has invested into 3 stargates, fleet beacon and upgrades, you have to invest in some counter tech yourself. You don't engage with the ravens, you use PDD, covering with ghosts.
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