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On August 12 2013 11:36 Greendotz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 11:34 PhoenixVoid wrote:On August 12 2013 11:33 Greendotz wrote:On August 12 2013 11:29 Fionn wrote: If Jaedong loses, he joins elite company in SC2 Kongverse. Losing three premiere tournaments: MKP, Alicia, Symbol and Squirtle.
The Kong Five. lol, why is it called the kong award? Kong means bean in Korean, and like a bean, there will always be a line involving a second, and in this case, a constant second-placer. And here I was trying to draw a link between Marineking and King Kong
Honestly I thought it was because the first place was the King, so the second had to be the Kong.
Learn something new every day.
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Gogogogogogo. 3hatch speedroach/speedbaneling bust!
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United States97276 Posts
On August 12 2013 11:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 11:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00  Jaedong spawns in the bottom left  Polt spawns in the top right 2:00 hatch first for Jaedong fast drone scout CC first on the high ground for Polt rax for Polt gas for Polt 3:00 3rd hatch before Polt for Jaedong gas for Jaedong pool for Jaedong 4:00 bunker in the natural for Polt factory for Polt Polt scouts the 3rd base ling speed for Jaedong reactor for Polt 5:00 Polt lands his natural 2nd gas for Polt Starport for Polt reactored widow mine production started for Polt 6:00 3rd CC for Polt medivac for Polt spores started for Jaedong after scouting a naked starport building another gas for Jaedong marauder for Polt
7:00 62 vs 53 viking for Polt 3 mines loaded into the medivac of Polt double ebay for Polt double evo for Jaedong
8:00 69 vs 67 widow mine drop at the 3rd of Jaedong is deflected stim research started for Polt Polt kills an overlord and a few lings with his widow mines 1-1 started for Polt 1-1 started for Jaedong's lings Lair for Jaedong 2 more rax for Polt
9:00 75 vs 76 baneling nest for Jaedong 2 more rax for Polt Polt floating out his 3rd base Roach warren for Jaedong missile turret for Polt armory for Polt
10:00 92 vs 93 widow mine blocking a potential 4th of Jaedong marauder drop in the main of Jaedong is chased away macro hatch for Jaedong baneling speed for Jaedong roach speed for Jaedong Jaedong making a shitload of overlords to go up to 93/174 supply
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Going to be a three base 1/1 Speed Roach/Speed Bane bust.
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On August 12 2013 11:37 pigmanbear wrote: JD needs to make a roach some time.
He did in game 2... roaches are a horrible waste of resources vs. bio-mine play unless you're going for a roach-baneling bust.
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On August 12 2013 11:37 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 11:36 Greendotz wrote:On August 12 2013 11:34 PhoenixVoid wrote:On August 12 2013 11:33 Greendotz wrote:On August 12 2013 11:29 Fionn wrote: If Jaedong loses, he joins elite company in SC2 Kongverse. Losing three premiere tournaments: MKP, Alicia, Symbol and Squirtle.
The Kong Five. lol, why is it called the kong award? Kong means bean in Korean, and like a bean, there will always be a line involving a second, and in this case, a constant second-placer. And here I was trying to draw a link between Marineking and King Kong Honestly I thought it was because the first place was the King, so the second had to be the Kong. Learn something new every day. 
Isn't it because Yellow's nickname is Kong? A play on his looks and the fact that his name is Hong?
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On August 12 2013 11:34 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 11:32 Shantastic wrote:On August 12 2013 11:30 cosine wrote: i love how people are balance whining, even though Polt pulled those same comebacks in the Lings of Liberty era. watch his games vs Stephano. he always bleeds SCVs but wins engagements. also, if you want to whine about tech levels: Polt was on T3 (medivacs) while JD was only investing in T1 ling/bane and T2 muta. Medivacs are not T3... Marine/Mine/Medivac is just better than Muta/Ling/Bane, and with Polt's ridiculously good macro and battle mechanics, it's virtually impossible to tech up through his aggression. Terran tiers are different than Zerg tiers. Medivacs are technically tier 2.5 because they come from Starports (which are technically tier 3) yet can be reactored which puts them on a different tier than Ravens and BCs which require Tech Labs. Thors are traditionally considered Tier 3, yet come from Factories (tier 2 structure) and are on the same tech requirement as Helbats which are considered by most to be tier 1.5 units. Terran tech trees are strange and not linear AT ALL. Zerg is the only race with a straight linear tech tree. The whole concept of "tiers" is stupid and irrelevant to StarCraft in that case. Medivacs require far less tech advancement than Mutas to make, and they're much more cost-efficient for their use. It's just how the races operate, but by default, Terran will almost always have Medivacs before Zerg has Mutas in a standard Ling-based ZvT. To argue that Terran had T3 while Zerg had only T1/2 is entirely irrelevant.
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TLADT24920 Posts
sick sense! 3 bunkers up for Polt!
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It's lovely how everyone assumed if people are confused by what just happened, they have to be the certain race that got pummeled. Sometimes it's terrans that are just as confused and wondering how Polt won that game.
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DUDE HOTS GETS BETTER AND BETTER! This is some high level insanity!
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Jaedong has gone with a different strat in 4/4 games. Don't see that often from a Zerg.
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This attack is gonna fail terribly. grats Polt
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This won't work that well, Polt faced HyuN too much.
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On August 12 2013 11:38 BigFan wrote: sick sense! 3 bunkers up for Polt!
pretty sure he builds them everytime he faces an aggressive zerg
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On August 12 2013 11:38 zefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 11:37 Zambrah wrote:On August 12 2013 11:36 Greendotz wrote:On August 12 2013 11:34 PhoenixVoid wrote:On August 12 2013 11:33 Greendotz wrote:On August 12 2013 11:29 Fionn wrote: If Jaedong loses, he joins elite company in SC2 Kongverse. Losing three premiere tournaments: MKP, Alicia, Symbol and Squirtle.
The Kong Five. lol, why is it called the kong award? Kong means bean in Korean, and like a bean, there will always be a line involving a second, and in this case, a constant second-placer. And here I was trying to draw a link between Marineking and King Kong Honestly I thought it was because the first place was the King, so the second had to be the Kong. Learn something new every day.  Isn't it because Yellow's nickname is Kong? A play on his looks and the fact that his name is Hong?
I don't even know any more. T_T
I'm gonna choose to believe its everything all at once and that its actually just the perfect word for constant-2nd-placers, lol.
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On August 12 2013 11:38 Shantastic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 11:34 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 12 2013 11:32 Shantastic wrote:On August 12 2013 11:30 cosine wrote: i love how people are balance whining, even though Polt pulled those same comebacks in the Lings of Liberty era. watch his games vs Stephano. he always bleeds SCVs but wins engagements. also, if you want to whine about tech levels: Polt was on T3 (medivacs) while JD was only investing in T1 ling/bane and T2 muta. Medivacs are not T3... Marine/Mine/Medivac is just better than Muta/Ling/Bane, and with Polt's ridiculously good macro and battle mechanics, it's virtually impossible to tech up through his aggression. Terran tiers are different than Zerg tiers. Medivacs are technically tier 2.5 because they come from Starports (which are technically tier 3) yet can be reactored which puts them on a different tier than Ravens and BCs which require Tech Labs. Thors are traditionally considered Tier 3, yet come from Factories (tier 2 structure) and are on the same tech requirement as Helbats which are considered by most to be tier 1.5 units. Terran tech trees are strange and not linear AT ALL. Zerg is the only race with a straight linear tech tree. The whole concept of "tiers" is stupid and irrelevant to StarCraft in that case. Medivacs require far less tech advancement than Mutas to make, and they're much more cost-efficient for their use. It's just how the races operate, but by default, Terran will almost always have Medivacs before Zerg has Mutas in a standard Ling-based ZvT. To argue that Terran had T3 while Zerg had only T1/2 is entirely irrelevant.
I agree with that conclusion. I was just posting to deflate some of this "Terran only uses tier 1 units" balance whine by explaining just how inaccurate that is.
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