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Stop the balance whining please.
Shantastic
Profile Joined October 2011
United States435 Posts
August 12 2013 02:32 GMT
#3441
On August 12 2013 11:30 cosine wrote:
i love how people are balance whining, even though Polt pulled those same comebacks in the Lings of Liberty era. watch his games vs Stephano. he always bleeds SCVs but wins engagements. also, if you want to whine about tech levels: Polt was on T3 (medivacs) while JD was only investing in T1 ling/bane and T2 muta.

Medivacs are not T3... Marine/Mine/Medivac is just better than Muta/Ling/Bane, and with Polt's ridiculously good macro and battle mechanics, it's virtually impossible to tech up through his aggression.
"My grandpa could have proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, but he's also dead." -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Mask DeMasque
Profile Joined February 2012
United States415 Posts
August 12 2013 02:32 GMT
#3442
lol @ people thinking polt should have made units besides marines and mines vs ling bane muta

it was jd's fault he kept going with a composition that polt's composition would eventually beat
double1185
Profile Joined May 2010
Vietnam211 Posts
August 12 2013 02:32 GMT
#3443
On August 12 2013 11:29 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:26 Zinthar wrote:
On August 12 2013 11:25 aksfjh wrote:
What a textbook TvZ right there.


Did they leave out the chapter about reacting to banelings in your mineral line?

Banelings and ling runbys are part of it. Z lets T get 3-3 marines and sticks to muta/ling/bling, Z is going to lose. It's been like this for 4 years.

As far as i remember, in WoL if u can kill that much SCV, w/out the help of mine, it consider over as T does not have any thing to trade economically, mmm vs bio/zergling/muta trade is about same cost
Starcraft FTW
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
August 12 2013 02:32 GMT
#3444
On August 12 2013 11:31 mbsupermario wrote:
TvZ is why I quit playing SC2... call me bad if you'd like, but there's nothing more frustrating than winning engagement after engagement and losing so convincingly once terran gets 3/3


You just have to roach allin, works everytime :p
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 12 2013 02:32 GMT
#3445
On August 12 2013 11:31 pigmanbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:30 Hryul wrote:
On August 12 2013 11:28 Faust852 wrote:
This LR threads used to be moderated about balance whine

i would report the hell out of them but even a "drink bleach" post didn't yield a warning. i think they abandoned us

It's basically twitch chat lite.


Well, they probably became softer in the BL/Infestor era, else TL.net would be only zergs right now
Mask DeMasque
Profile Joined February 2012
United States415 Posts
August 12 2013 02:32 GMT
#3446
On August 12 2013 11:32 Shantastic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:30 cosine wrote:
i love how people are balance whining, even though Polt pulled those same comebacks in the Lings of Liberty era. watch his games vs Stephano. he always bleeds SCVs but wins engagements. also, if you want to whine about tech levels: Polt was on T3 (medivacs) while JD was only investing in T1 ling/bane and T2 muta.

Medivacs are not T3... Marine/Mine/Medivac is just better than Muta/Ling/Bane, and with Polt's ridiculously good macro and battle mechanics, it's virtually impossible to tech up through his aggression.

maybe he shouldn't have spent all that gas on baneling rollbys
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44368 Posts
August 12 2013 02:33 GMT
#3447
I figured that Polt would win the finals but it's sad that Jaedong is playing so poorly
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
August 12 2013 02:33 GMT
#3448
On August 12 2013 11:28 Fionn wrote:
How Revival won on this map in the same exact situation was just make some more mutas, use them primarily for killing off the rest of Polt's economy (which Polt just ignored) and then he tech switched into ultras (and I think infestors). Polt won a few more battles, but eventually couldn't reproduce units off a shit economy and lost. Polt even had the 3/3 vs. Revival's weaker upgrades for most of the game, too.


This is akin to telling Terran to build more Tanks, Ravens and BC's to counteract zerg making nothing but zerglings.
STX Fighting!
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
August 12 2013 02:33 GMT
#3449
On August 12 2013 11:32 RedDeckWins wrote:
I feel like Scarlett would have put up a better fight.


I don't think so but it really sucked to see her lose to a 6 pool. Heartbreaking for her probably.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
August 12 2013 02:33 GMT
#3450
On August 12 2013 11:30 Valikyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:27 plogamer wrote:
A) Jaedong fell behind in upgrade

B) Jaedong overmade mutas, this ain't ZvP where mutas own everything without phoenix

C) Polt

I don't see what Polt did that was so good. His splits were awful and he kept taking econlmic dmg. Gotta be fun to not need scv's cause of mules and no need to tech on top of that.

His splits weren't immaculate, but they were good enough. When Jaedong is throwing banes non stop into them (with a few packs getting wrecked by mines), and then throwing banes into mineral lines, and THEN throwing mutas at the marine ball, that gets expensive. Meanwhile, Polt is sticking to the cheap HotS MMM.
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
August 12 2013 02:33 GMT
#3451
On August 12 2013 11:32 RedDeckWins wrote:
I feel like Scarlett would have put up a better fight.

no way. She would have been stomped harder.
JD is BONJWA!
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
August 12 2013 02:33 GMT
#3452
On August 12 2013 11:32 Shantastic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:30 cosine wrote:
i love how people are balance whining, even though Polt pulled those same comebacks in the Lings of Liberty era. watch his games vs Stephano. he always bleeds SCVs but wins engagements. also, if you want to whine about tech levels: Polt was on T3 (medivacs) while JD was only investing in T1 ling/bane and T2 muta.

Medivacs are not T3... Marine/Mine/Medivac is just better than Muta/Ling/Bane, and with Polt's ridiculously good macro and battle mechanics, it's virtually impossible to tech up through his aggression.


No they are the same if equal upgrade. 3/3 vs 2/2 is like a huge powerup you know.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10080 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 02:33:58
August 12 2013 02:33 GMT
#3453
hahaha i rememberd that tournament that use an altered map that had marines with 6 or 7 range and 6 base damage... or something like that, also +200 of supply xD
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
August 12 2013 02:33 GMT
#3454
On August 12 2013 11:29 Fionn wrote:
If Jaedong loses, he joins elite company in SC2 Kongverse. Losing three premiere tournaments: MKP, Alicia, Symbol and Squirtle.

The Kong Five.


lol, why is it called the kong award?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 12 2013 02:33 GMT
#3455
These threads are so sad lol. Every race complains about the other. Sc2 won't grow if you whiners don't grow up as well.
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7310 Posts
August 12 2013 02:33 GMT
#3456
On August 12 2013 11:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I figured that Polt would win the finals but it's sad that Jaedong is playing so poorly


Jaedong isn't playing SO poorly, Polt is just playing the hell out of Terran, lol. If theres anyone thats the embodiment of the Terran style, its Polt.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
August 12 2013 02:34 GMT
#3457
Look, we all hate shitty balance whining and know it's sacrilegious to talk about it, but this game still isn't even close to reaching it's full potential and has many more updates left til' in it's final state, if it ever luckily reached that point. JD literally destroyed him that game. This will be an 4-0
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
August 12 2013 02:34 GMT
#3458
On August 12 2013 11:33 GWdeathscythe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:32 RedDeckWins wrote:
I feel like Scarlett would have put up a better fight.

no way. She would have been stomped harder.


Seeing how close the series JD - Scarlett we're.

I think she would have done equally good.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 12 2013 02:34 GMT
#3459
On August 12 2013 11:32 GWdeathscythe wrote:
Widow mines are banelings with range and 3/3 marines eats every unit on the game for breakfast. Polt lost all scvs on one base twice, was 50 supply behind and stilk was able to crush zerg army. That is fun.

did you miss all the times that the widow mines backfired on terran players including polt in the game? They are as risky for terran although marines will survive more than slings just due to the higher hp but they'll be in the red range.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
August 12 2013 02:34 GMT
#3460
On August 12 2013 11:33 Greendotz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:29 Fionn wrote:
If Jaedong loses, he joins elite company in SC2 Kongverse. Losing three premiere tournaments: MKP, Alicia, Symbol and Squirtle.

The Kong Five.


lol, why is it called the kong award?

Kong means bean in Korean, and like a bean, there will always be a line involving a second, and in this case, a constant second-placer.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
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