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On July 23 2013 21:43 double1185 wrote:
I don't complain about WM or hellbat, but from the look of all the game i watched so far (this is purely observation w/out any statistic), the role of additional unit in HoTS in term of usage and important: T>>P>>Z, for Z the only function/unit is used frequently is the ability to fast regenerate of Muta, the role Swarm host or viper is miles below the contribution of Mothership core to P and miles miles behind window mines or hellbat (bfore nerf) or even medivac boost to Terran. Call me OP whiner but Blizzard really love T
Give it another 6months for koreans to copy stephano again, and you'll see the swarmhost style zvp in every game.
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France9034 Posts
Leave : INnov 1 - 0 Soulkey.
Come back : 3 - 0.
That was quick ^_^ !
Gogo Inno ! A bit wondering how Soulkey lost that so hard though...
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On July 23 2013 21:43 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 21:38 Yello wrote:On July 23 2013 21:36 Douillos wrote:On July 23 2013 21:35 Yello wrote:On July 23 2013 21:33 Jmanthedragonguy wrote:
Damn,.. there goes the zergs.. :/ and I'm quite happy about that. No need for another Zerg finals. They can come back next season, it's time for a good TvT finals again ^.^ I think most people are wishing for a TVP. Rain vs Inno could be crazy good. the last TvP finals was Mvp vs Squirtle and it was awesome. The last TvT finals was MMA-Mvp I think? And that was in 2011 if I recall correctly. An awesome TvT finals is long overdue I want a TvP finals with lots of back and forth action :/ I will never get the hype around Mvp vs Squritle. I fell asleep twice.
You don't like pizza and you don't like Mvp vs Squirtle.
:S
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On July 23 2013 21:45 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 21:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:
What are you people, insane? Mvp vs Squirtle was the best finals ever. Mvp played godly the first three games, Squirtle played godly the next 3 and the ending was probably the most tense ending to any series ever. or how about squirtle played crap the first three and g7, mvp played bad in g4/6, only g5 was that good ;p. good storyline though
G5 was one of the worst in the series, both of them just sat around for fucking ever and then Mvp drove into a vortex like a complete retard and lost in 5 seconds.
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On July 23 2013 21:43 double1185 wrote:
I don't complain about WM or hellbat, but from the look of all the game i watched so far (this is purely observation w/out any statistic), the role of additional unit in HoTS in term of usage and important: T>>P>>Z, for Z the only function/unit is used frequently is the ability to fast regenerate of Muta, the role Swarm host or viper is miles below the contribution of Mothership core to P and miles miles behind window mines or hellbat (bfore nerf) or even medivac boost to Terran. Call me OP whiner but Blizzard really love T
How about the SH turtle vs P and T late-late game? P cant break that (almost).
MoCo stops T the first minutes from doing anything.
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On July 23 2013 21:43 Abominous wrote:
Can't we all conclude that any finals at this stage would be excellent, with Maru's performance today...Potentially many great storylines!
To think that Innovation could follow his WCS KR finals and Regional finals win with an OSL title, possibly Shanghai and Proleague! What a dominance that could prove to be!
Yeah agreed, any potential finals can be awesome now a days with the general level of skill for all players having gone up by so much, Maru potentially stands to gain much more by defeating Innovation and making the final, but Innovation could also gain even more recognition. On the other side, First getting to the finals would be an awesome cinderela story, Rain making it would be a revival story of one of the best KeSPA players to have switched over to HoTS, Supernova and Bomber would be a great story about struggle and disappointment but finally overcoming everything and reaching the big stage.
Yeah so far I'm really pumped for all the rest of the games.
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On July 23 2013 21:43 double1185 wrote:
I don't complain about WM or hellbat, but from the look of all the game i watched so far (this is purely observation w/out any statistic), the role of additional unit in HoTS in term of usage and important: T>>P>>Z, for Z the only function/unit is used frequently is the ability to fast regenerate of Muta, the role Swarm host or viper is miles below the contribution of Mothership core to P and miles miles behind window mines or hellbat (bfore nerf) or even medivac boost to Terran. Call me OP whiner but Blizzard really love T
Yea, this is a fact, Z in hots is a lot weaker than in WoL comparing directly, double infestor nerf was pretty harsh, they should revert some nerfs on the infestor.
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The only thing I hope for is that Blizzard doesn't touch the game for a while. I don't think we've ever had an sc2 build this balanced, all match ups are fun to watch and to play.
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Bogus' winrate up to ridiculous levels now.
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On July 23 2013 21:48 sibs wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 21:43 double1185 wrote:
I don't complain about WM or hellbat, but from the look of all the game i watched so far (this is purely observation w/out any statistic), the role of additional unit in HoTS in term of usage and important: T>>P>>Z, for Z the only function/unit is used frequently is the ability to fast regenerate of Muta, the role Swarm host or viper is miles below the contribution of Mothership core to P and miles miles behind window mines or hellbat (bfore nerf) or even medivac boost to Terran. Call me OP whiner but Blizzard really love T Yea, this is a fact, Z in hots is a lot weaker than in WoL comparing directly, double infestor nerf was pretty harsh, they should revert some nerfs on the infestor.
Yeah no, the infestor is handsdown the most boring unit in the game/
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Austria24422 Posts
Not just the storyline but also the variety of games and how tense it was made Mvp vs Squirtle fucking awesome
Also, what stomps? Every game was hard fought, only game 2 was Mvp just rolling Squirtle because he played like a god in that game.
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On July 23 2013 21:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Not just the storyline but also the variety of games and how tense it was made Mvp vs Squirtle fucking awesome
Also, what stomps? Every game was hard fought, only game 2 was Mvp just rolling Squirtle because he played like a god in that game.
squirtle played terribly the first 3 games, really
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On July 23 2013 21:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Not just the storyline but also the variety of games and how tense it was made Mvp vs Squirtle fucking awesome
Also, what stomps? Every game was hard fought, only game 2 was Mvp just rolling Squirtle because he played like a god in that game.
well I just watched game 1 and Squirtle died to a double drop while not microing any of his stalkers
8 min game
I dont have a ticket but I remember that final being pretty bad for the most part. Same with DRG vs MMA. Most of the games in that series sucked but everyone forgets about it because of how it ended and call it the best finals.
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On July 23 2013 21:49 Douillos wrote:
The only thing I hope for is that Blizzard doesn't touch the game for a while. I don't think we've ever had an sc2 build this balanced, all match ups are fun to watch and to play.
ZvP is absolutely terrible to play imho. It's either a turtlefest or someone allins. Even though there are tons of different all-ins out there, the matchup doesn't feel very dynamic - especially if you compare it the other ones.
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I was so pumped about the viper it is a shame it turned out worthless.
Maybe it needs to be tier 2 w/ spire?
I'm not trying to balance whine, just discussion about how the game could be more interesting by making more units viable in all matchups. My biggest complaint about SC2 is the number of units that are either worthless in general or worthless in a certain matchup.
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On July 23 2013 21:54 virpi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 21:49 Douillos wrote:
The only thing I hope for is that Blizzard doesn't touch the game for a while. I don't think we've ever had an sc2 build this balanced, all match ups are fun to watch and to play.
ZvP is absolutely terrible to play imho. It's either a turtlefest or someone allins. Even though there are tons of different all-ins out there, the matchup doesn't feel very dynamic - especially if you compare it the other ones.
Every once in a blue moon you get that hyun vs hero game though.
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Tbh I don't think theres ever been a player that looked this dominant before. Were it not for that choke, Innovation would be looking at back to back to back wins in a wcs final stage. And will probably win the global, to make it back to back to back to back.
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